Siri will respond wither way - Hay Siri or Siri. 

I had that Apple Pay thing, just ended up calling Apple Accessibillity and got 
them to help me get it in just to get the thing off my back, which I do not 
intend to be using. 

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Margaret Thomas
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2023 1:53 PM
To: V iPhone list <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Siri and iOS 17 problem

Good Afternoon:

I updated to IOS 17.1 on my SE 2 the other day and am trying to work my way 
through the changes from 16.x to 17.1 to solve problems I'm having with the 
update.  I had Hey Siri on and wanted it and not Siri, but am having a problem 
with Alan's instructions.What do I do after "Listen for and select Hey Siri 
instead of Siri?"  There's no Siri by itself.  Right now, when I do not press 
the hone button, and invoke Siri by voice, Siri responds with Hey Siri as well 
as Siri.  I think it may have something to do with the new follow-up feature I 
think I heard about.

The phone wants me to finish setting up Apple Pay, which I don't want. 
I may have an expired credit card that deleting it and putting in the new info 
might make the phone happy, but I'm having a problem with double tapping since 
the update and I was hoping to solve the double tapping thing first.  Do I have 
to solve these before I can fix Hey Siri vs. Siri?

Many thanks,

Margaret


On 10/31/2023 3:23 PM, Alan Lemly wrote:
> James,
> 
> For those of us who have updated to iOS 17 and prefer Hey Siri, we can go to 
> Settings, Siri and search, and Listen for and select Hey Siri instead of Siri 
> and Hey Siri to have it work as it did in earlier versions of iOS.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 31, 2023, at 11:38 AM, James Bentley <bentleyj1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I love Hey Ciri.  Not one single time in almost one year has any thing 
>> accidently triggered Ciri.
>>
>> All of my other devices, especially Alexa go off several times a day.  I 
>> always have the TV, radio, or an Audio book going and Ciri has never 
>> noticed.  Alexa sometimes, will start playing music or some podcast because 
>> she thought she heard the wake word followed by a request.
>>
>> If Apple has removed the Hhey in Hey Ciri, I will never update to any 
>> version of IOS 17.
>>
>> Just my opinion but it seems to me like Apple has come out with one of the 
>> worst versions of IOS in V17 since the conception of the I Phone.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> James B
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf 
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 11:15 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Siri and iOS 17 problem
>>
>> It’s also possible that since they got rid of the hay in hey Siri, if your 
>> friend has that enabled, Siri could be listening and hear anything and quit, 
>> because it thinks you’re doing something. Try disabling hands-free Siri and 
>> just use the side button and see if that helps. I never have used hey Siri 
>> except on my HomePod. I have no problem pressing the side button.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Oct 31, 2023, at 8:48 AM, Richard Turner <richardr_tur...@comcast.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Give that feedback to Apple.  The new thing of Siri being available for 
>>> follow up questions I think is essentially keeping the mic open and thus it 
>>> cannot give a full answer if it hears anything.
>>> Pretty pointless.
>>> I find nothing in Siri settings to disable this.
>>> Though, he might try turning on showing a transcript of what Siri says, 
>>> then maybe VO can read the whole response, but that is a poor work around 
>>> at best even if it works.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>> with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in 
>>> the Universe
>>>
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf 
>>> Of Lynn Schneider
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 8:42 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Siri and iOS 17 problem
>>>
>>> I am trying to help a friend with a problem that has popped up since iOS 
>>> 17.1. He uses Siri to get his sports scores. He says that, as she is 
>>> reading back the information, any little noise will stop her from reading. 
>>> It is like Siri has an open mic all the time. This behavior just started 
>>> recently. He thought that an update fixed it, and it worked well for about 
>>> a day, but then went back to this problematic behavior. Any insights on how 
>>> to solve this problem would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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