On 24-Nov-2009, at 15:23, Jeff Mincy wrote:
>   From: LuKreme <krem...@kreme.com>
>>   On Nov 23, 2009, at 7:39, Matus UHLAR - fantomas <uh...@fantomas.sk>  
> 
>>> Yes, why to differ between non-abusing and abusing marketers...
> 
>>   We've been through this before. On my mail, habeas is a very strong  
>>   indicator of spam. It does not appear in legitimate mail.
>> 
> I find it a little hard to believe that your spam is so much different from
> my spam.  On my mail, not one single spam message (out of 228k total) hit
> HABEAS for all of 2009.  The few messages (480 out of 11k) that hit HABEAS
> were all ham, either professional organizations/newsletters, transactions
> from places like Vanguard or retail stores that I have a relationship with.

I get HABEAS mail sent to email addresses that have not been active in 10 years 
and have never EVER signed up for anything whatsoever. I get HABEAS mail sent 
to new admin@ email addresses on new domains, domains that have never sent any 
email at all.

>   I don't know who these legitimate marketers are, but I don't feel I'm  
>   missing anything.
> 
> You WILL 'block' legitimate mail.

No I won't, because I don't use spamassassin to BLOCK mail. I simply score it 
and if it scores over 5.0 it gets moved to the .SPAM folder where people are 
free to recover it if they want. I've never had a single complaint about HABEAS 
messages being misstagged as spam.

> However, It's your email, so you
> can do anything you want.  If you think HABEAS is so bad just set the
> HABEAS scores to zero and save the network bandwidth.

I prefer to give it a positive score as in my tests, it is a definite spam sign


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