Sorry to disappoint you. What you describe is normal for kannel. It has been
used in SMS prodution by thousands of people. Store* is as solid as it
comes. You should consider that your modem is also buffering SMS.
With the spool you are using, Q is more manageable and updated in real
time.
Take care,
Nikos
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dino Sane Moreira" <[email protected]>
To: "'Nikos Balkanas'" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 11:40 PM
Subject: RES: Basic queue management - loss of message
Well, Q is empty after restart. The logs could say more, for sure, did
not
check them. I will try simulate and post result, if any.
But I am sure that the pending messages was not sended (mainly due the
fact
that was modem and so, a slow decreasing of Q. Fifty messages pending,
reset, zero message pending. Just like that...
regards
Dino
-----Mensagem original-----
De: Nikos Balkanas [mailto:[email protected]]
Enviada em: quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2009 17:28
Para: Dino Sane Moreira
Cc: [email protected]
Assunto: Re: Basic queue management - loss of message
If I understand you correctly, if you restart bearerbox, or the smsc, it
is
expected that the SMS will be processed and gone. The only sure way to
know
about the fate of the sms after restart, is to look for it both in
bearerbox's access logs and the Q.
BR,
Nikos
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dino Sane Moreira" <[email protected]>
To: "'Nikos Balkanas'" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 10:53 PM
Subject: RES: Basic queue management - loss of message
Well, yeah... I mean, last time it happens a modem stop responding and a
script monitor alert me that queue was stopped. I check it out and saw
the
pending messages.
After stop the smsc and fix the modem, I restart and messages was gone.
I
look for them in store-location directory but they was really not there.
I think I could fix this using a mySQL store and moving messages to
other(s)
smsc, but I'm afraid of put too many requests to database (it is already
used a lot)..
regards,
Dino
Hi,
The store mechanism is independent of any smsc, common for all of them
and
kannel will panic if it is not accesible.
Kannel backs up its message Q in the store-location you specify.
Therefore
the mechanism you ask is already in place.
Have you checked in the store-location for any messages during normal
operation? Have you used the admin interface to view the Q contents?
BR,
Nikos
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dino Sane Moreira" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: Basic queue management - loss of message
Donald,
I use "smsc = smpp" and "smsc = at". It happens with any of them,
although
more with modems.
Alvaro,
I have configurated this:
store-type = spool
store-location = /etc/kannel/store
any ideas about?
Thanks for promptly reply !
-----Mensagem original-----
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Para: [email protected]
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4. Re: Basic queue management - loss of message (Alvaro Cornejo)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:13:49 -0300
From: "Dino Sane Moreira" <[email protected]>
Subject: Basic queue management - loss of message
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi All,
I'm using Kannel for 3 or 4 mounts now and every week I check for a
patch
or
new version fixing this absolutely basic issue:
If you stop a gateway all messages queued are lost!
So I ask you: if the connection with operator is lost during the sending
process, what options do you have? I mean, you check out the box and see
that you have 498 messages to send yet. The connection with that
specifically operator is gone... And so what? What can be done?
Of course this does not happens often, otherwise would be impossible to
use
Kannel. But for those who use modems, I think the problem could be far
bigger. A pool of 10 modems receive 5,000 messages to send. If one of
them
freeze, the correct would be not redistribute the remaining messages to
the
others?
For short: is not possible NOT LOOSE the messages queued when
stop/restart
a
gateway or bearerbox/smsbox ??? Does anyone know a patch to this?
Thanks in advance,
Dino
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:44:16 +0200
From: Donald Jackson <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Basic queue management - loss of message
To: Users mailing list <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Message-ID:
<[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
What kind of SMSCs are you using?
I noticed that there is some inconsistency with regards to this
behaviour
between different SMSC types.
Thanks,
Donald
2009/8/20 Dino Sane Moreira <[email protected]>
Hi All,
I'm using Kannel for 3 or 4 mounts now and every week I check for a
patch
or
new version fixing this absolutely basic issue:
If you stop a gateway all messages queued are lost!
So I ask you: if the connection with operator is lost during the
sending
process, what options do you have? I mean, you check out the box and
see
that you have 498 messages to send yet. The connection with that
specifically operator is gone... And so what? What can be done?
Of course this does not happens often, otherwise would be impossible to
use
Kannel. But for those who use modems, I think the problem could be far
bigger. A pool of 10 modems receive 5,000 messages to send. If one of
them
freeze, the correct would be not redistribute the remaining messages to
the
others?
For short: is not possible NOT LOOSE the messages queued when
stop/restart
a
gateway or bearerbox/smsbox ??? Does anyone know a patch to this?
Thanks in advance,
Dino
--
Donald Jackson
http://www.ddj.co.za/
donaldjster(a)gmail.com
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Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:44:16 +0200
From: Donald Jackson <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Basic queue management - loss of message
To: Users mailing list <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
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<[email protected]>
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What kind of SMSCs are you using?
I noticed that there is some inconsistency with regards to this
behaviour
between different SMSC types.
Thanks,
Donald
2009/8/20 Dino Sane Moreira <[email protected]>
Hi All,
I'm using Kannel for 3 or 4 mounts now and every week I check for a
patch
or
new version fixing this absolutely basic issue:
If you stop a gateway all messages queued are lost!
So I ask you: if the connection with operator is lost during the
sending
process, what options do you have? I mean, you check out the box and
see
that you have 498 messages to send yet. The connection with that
specifically operator is gone... And so what? What can be done?
Of course this does not happens often, otherwise would be impossible to
use
Kannel. But for those who use modems, I think the problem could be far
bigger. A pool of 10 modems receive 5,000 messages to send. If one of
them
freeze, the correct would be not redistribute the remaining messages to
the
others?
For short: is not possible NOT LOOSE the messages queued when
stop/restart
a
gateway or bearerbox/smsbox ??? Does anyone know a patch to this?
Thanks in advance,
Dino
--
Donald Jackson
http://www.ddj.co.za/
donaldjster(a)gmail.com
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Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:20:42 -0500
From: Alvaro Cornejo <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Basic queue management - loss of message
To: Users mailing list <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Message-ID:
<[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Hi
You need to configure the store-xxx parameters on core group. If you
do not define it, kannel will store on ram and messages will be lost
in case kannel or the smsc restarts...
Regards
Alvaro
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------|
Env?e y Reciba Datos y mensajes de Texto (SMS) hacia y desde cualquier
celular y Nextel
en el Per?, M?xico y en mas de 180 paises. Use aplicaciones 2 vias via
SMS y GPRS online
Visitenos en www.perusms.NET www.smsglobal.com.mx y
www.pravcom.com
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:13 AM, Dino Sane Moreira<[email protected]>
wrote:
Hi All,
I'm using Kannel for 3 or 4 mounts now and every week I check for a
patch
or
new version fixing this absolutely basic issue:
If you stop a gateway all messages queued are lost!
So I ask you: if the connection with operator is lost during the
sending
process, what options do you have? I mean, you check out the box and
see
that you have 498 messages to send yet. The connection with that
specifically operator is gone... And so what? ?What can be done?
Of course this does not happens often, otherwise would be impossible to
use
Kannel. But for those who use modems, I think the problem could be far
bigger. A pool of 10 modems receive 5,000 messages to send. If one of
them
freeze, the correct would be not redistribute the remaining messages to
the
others?
For short: is not possible NOT LOOSE the messages queued when
stop/restart
a
gateway or bearerbox/smsbox ??? Does anyone know a patch to this?
Thanks in advance,
Dino
------------------------------
Message: 5
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:20:42 -0500
From: Alvaro Cornejo <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Basic queue management - loss of message
To: Users mailing list <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Message-ID:
<[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Hi
You need to configure the store-xxx parameters on core group. If you
do not define it, kannel will store on ram and messages will be lost
in case kannel or the smsc restarts...
Regards
Alvaro
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------|
Env?e y Reciba Datos y mensajes de Texto (SMS) hacia y desde cualquier
celular y Nextel
en el Per?, M?xico y en mas de 180 paises. Use aplicaciones 2 vias via
SMS y GPRS online
Visitenos en www.perusms.NET www.smsglobal.com.mx y
www.pravcom.com
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:13 AM, Dino Sane Moreira<[email protected]>
wrote:
Hi All,
I'm using Kannel for 3 or 4 mounts now and every week I check for a
patch
or
new version fixing this absolutely basic issue:
If you stop a gateway all messages queued are lost!
So I ask you: if the connection with operator is lost during the
sending
process, what options do you have? I mean, you check out the box and
see
that you have 498 messages to send yet. The connection with that
specifically operator is gone... And so what? ?What can be done?
Of course this does not happens often, otherwise would be impossible to
use
Kannel. But for those who use modems, I think the problem could be far
bigger. A pool of 10 modems receive 5,000 messages to send. If one of
them
freeze, the correct would be not redistribute the remaining messages to
the
others?
For short: is not possible NOT LOOSE the messages queued when
stop/restart
a
gateway or bearerbox/smsbox ??? Does anyone know a patch to this?
Thanks in advance,
Dino
------------------------------
Message: 6
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:00:03 +0300
From: "Nikos Balkanas" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Basic queue management - loss of message
To: "Alvaro Cornejo" <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Message-ID: <000701ca21af$48c03570$02b2a...@tardis>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="windows-1253";
reply-type=original
Hi,
If store-location is misstyped, kannel will panic. How would you guys
feel
if this was also the case for store-* not specified?
BR,
Nikos
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alvaro Cornejo" <[email protected]>
To: "Users mailing list" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: Basic queue management - loss of message
Hi
You need to configure the store-xxx parameters on core group. If you
do not define it, kannel will store on ram and messages will be lost
in case kannel or the smsc restarts...
Regards
Alvaro
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------|
Env?e y Reciba Datos y mensajes de Texto (SMS) hacia y desde cualquier
celular y Nextel
en el Per?, M?xico y en mas de 180 paises. Use aplicaciones 2 vias via
SMS y GPRS online
Visitenos en www.perusms.NET www.smsglobal.com.mx y
www.pravcom.com
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:13 AM, Dino Sane Moreira<[email protected]>
wrote:
Hi All,
I'm using Kannel for 3 or 4 mounts now and every week I check for a
patch
or
new version fixing this absolutely basic issue:
If you stop a gateway all messages queued are lost!
So I ask you: if the connection with operator is lost during the
sending
process, what options do you have? I mean, you check out the box and
see
that you have 498 messages to send yet. The connection with that
specifically operator is gone... And so what? What can be done?
Of course this does not happens often, otherwise would be impossible to
use
Kannel. But for those who use modems, I think the problem could be far
bigger. A pool of 10 modems receive 5,000 messages to send. If one of
them
freeze, the correct would be not redistribute the remaining messages to
the
others?
For short: is not possible NOT LOOSE the messages queued when
stop/restart
a
gateway or bearerbox/smsbox ??? Does anyone know a patch to this?
Thanks in advance,
Dino
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