Well, Q is empty after restart. The logs could say more, for sure, did not check them. I will try simulate and post result, if any.
But I am sure that the pending messages was not sended (mainly due the fact that was modem and so, a slow decreasing of Q. Fifty messages pending, reset, zero message pending. Just like that... regards Dino -----Mensagem original----- De: Nikos Balkanas [mailto:[email protected]] Enviada em: quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2009 17:28 Para: Dino Sane Moreira Cc: [email protected] Assunto: Re: Basic queue management - loss of message If I understand you correctly, if you restart bearerbox, or the smsc, it is expected that the SMS will be processed and gone. The only sure way to know about the fate of the sms after restart, is to look for it both in bearerbox's access logs and the Q. BR, Nikos ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dino Sane Moreira" <[email protected]> To: "'Nikos Balkanas'" <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 10:53 PM Subject: RES: Basic queue management - loss of message > Well, yeah... I mean, last time it happens a modem stop responding and a > script monitor alert me that queue was stopped. I check it out and saw the > pending messages. > After stop the smsc and fix the modem, I restart and messages was gone. I > look for them in store-location directory but they was really not there. > > I think I could fix this using a mySQL store and moving messages to > other(s) > smsc, but I'm afraid of put too many requests to database (it is already > used a lot).. > > regards, > > Dino > > > Hi, > > The store mechanism is independent of any smsc, common for all of them and > kannel will panic if it is not accesible. > Kannel backs up its message Q in the store-location you specify. Therefore > the mechanism you ask is already in place. > > Have you checked in the store-location for any messages during normal > operation? Have you used the admin interface to view the Q contents? > > BR, > Nikos > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dino Sane Moreira" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:52 PM > Subject: Re: Basic queue management - loss of message > > >> Donald, >> >> I use "smsc = smpp" and "smsc = at". It happens with any of them, >> although >> more with modems. >> >> Alvaro, >> I have configurated this: >> >> store-type = spool >> store-location = /etc/kannel/store >> >> any ideas about? >> >> Thanks for promptly reply ! >> >> >> >> -----Mensagem original----- >> De: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Em >> nome de [email protected] >> Enviada em: quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2009 13:00 >> Para: [email protected] >> Assunto: users Digest, Vol 36, Issue 48 >> >> Send users mailing list submissions to >> [email protected] >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> http://www.kannel.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> [email protected] >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> [email protected] >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of users digest..." >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Basic queue management - loss of message (Dino Sane Moreira) >> 2. Re: Basic queue management - loss of message (Donald Jackson) >> 3. Re: Basic queue management - loss of message (Donald Jackson) >> 4. Re: Basic queue management - loss of message (Alvaro Cornejo) >> 5. Re: Basic queue management - loss of message (Alvaro Cornejo) >> 6. Re: Basic queue management - loss of message (Nikos Balkanas) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:13:49 -0300 >> From: "Dino Sane Moreira" <[email protected]> >> Subject: Basic queue management - loss of message >> To: <[email protected]> >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Hi All, >> >> I'm using Kannel for 3 or 4 mounts now and every week I check for a patch >> or >> new version fixing this absolutely basic issue: >> >> If you stop a gateway all messages queued are lost! >> >> So I ask you: if the connection with operator is lost during the sending >> process, what options do you have? I mean, you check out the box and see >> that you have 498 messages to send yet. The connection with that >> specifically operator is gone... And so what? What can be done? >> >> Of course this does not happens often, otherwise would be impossible to >> use >> Kannel. But for those who use modems, I think the problem could be far >> bigger. A pool of 10 modems receive 5,000 messages to send. If one of >> them >> freeze, the correct would be not redistribute the remaining messages to >> the >> others? >> >> For short: is not possible NOT LOOSE the messages queued when >> stop/restart > >> a >> gateway or bearerbox/smsbox ??? Does anyone know a patch to this? >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Dino >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:44:16 +0200 >> From: Donald Jackson <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Basic queue management - loss of message >> To: Users mailing list <[email protected]> >> Cc: [email protected] >> Message-ID: >> <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> What kind of SMSCs are you using? >> I noticed that there is some inconsistency with regards to this behaviour >> between different SMSC types. >> >> Thanks, >> Donald >> >> 2009/8/20 Dino Sane Moreira <[email protected]> >> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I'm using Kannel for 3 or 4 mounts now and every week I check for a >>> patch >>> or >>> new version fixing this absolutely basic issue: >>> >>> If you stop a gateway all messages queued are lost! >>> >>> So I ask you: if the connection with operator is lost during the sending >>> process, what options do you have? I mean, you check out the box and see >>> that you have 498 messages to send yet. The connection with that >>> specifically operator is gone... And so what? What can be done? >>> >>> Of course this does not happens often, otherwise would be impossible to >> use >>> Kannel. But for those who use modems, I think the problem could be far >>> bigger. A pool of 10 modems receive 5,000 messages to send. If one of >>> them >>> freeze, the correct would be not redistribute the remaining messages to >> the >>> others? >>> >>> For short: is not possible NOT LOOSE the messages queued when >>> stop/restart >>> a >>> gateway or bearerbox/smsbox ??? Does anyone know a patch to this? >>> >>> Thanks in advance, >>> >>> Dino >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Donald Jackson >> http://www.ddj.co.za/ >> donaldjster(a)gmail.com >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> > <http://www.kannel.org/pipermail/users/attachments/20090820/279e6667/attachm >> ent-0002.html> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 3 >> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:44:16 +0200 >> From: Donald Jackson <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Basic queue management - loss of message >> To: Users mailing list <[email protected]> >> Cc: [email protected] >> Message-ID: >> <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> What kind of SMSCs are you using? >> I noticed that there is some inconsistency with regards to this behaviour >> between different SMSC types. >> >> Thanks, >> Donald >> >> 2009/8/20 Dino Sane Moreira <[email protected]> >> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I'm using Kannel for 3 or 4 mounts now and every week I check for a >>> patch >>> or >>> new version fixing this absolutely basic issue: >>> >>> If you stop a gateway all messages queued are lost! >>> >>> So I ask you: if the connection with operator is lost during the sending >>> process, what options do you have? I mean, you check out the box and see >>> that you have 498 messages to send yet. The connection with that >>> specifically operator is gone... And so what? What can be done? >>> >>> Of course this does not happens often, otherwise would be impossible to >> use >>> Kannel. But for those who use modems, I think the problem could be far >>> bigger. A pool of 10 modems receive 5,000 messages to send. If one of >>> them >>> freeze, the correct would be not redistribute the remaining messages to >> the >>> others? >>> >>> For short: is not possible NOT LOOSE the messages queued when >>> stop/restart >>> a >>> gateway or bearerbox/smsbox ??? Does anyone know a patch to this? >>> >>> Thanks in advance, >>> >>> Dino >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Donald Jackson >> http://www.ddj.co.za/ >> donaldjster(a)gmail.com >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> > <http://www.kannel.org/pipermail/users/attachments/20090820/279e6667/attachm >> ent-0003.html> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:20:42 -0500 >> From: Alvaro Cornejo <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Basic queue management - loss of message >> To: Users mailing list <[email protected]> >> Cc: [email protected] >> Message-ID: >> <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> Hi >> >> You need to configure the store-xxx parameters on core group. If you >> do not define it, kannel will store on ram and messages will be lost >> in case kannel or the smsc restarts... >> >> Regards >> >> Alvaro >> >> > |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --------------------------------------| >> Env?e y Reciba Datos y mensajes de Texto (SMS) hacia y desde cualquier >> celular y Nextel >> en el Per?, M?xico y en mas de 180 paises. Use aplicaciones 2 vias via >> SMS y GPRS online >> Visitenos en www.perusms.NET www.smsglobal.com.mx y >> www.pravcom.com >> >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:13 AM, Dino Sane Moreira<[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I'm using Kannel for 3 or 4 mounts now and every week I check for a >>> patch >> or >>> new version fixing this absolutely basic issue: >>> >>> If you stop a gateway all messages queued are lost! >>> >>> So I ask you: if the connection with operator is lost during the sending >>> process, what options do you have? I mean, you check out the box and see >>> that you have 498 messages to send yet. The connection with that >>> specifically operator is gone... And so what? ?What can be done? >>> >>> Of course this does not happens often, otherwise would be impossible to >> use >>> Kannel. But for those who use modems, I think the problem could be far >>> bigger. A pool of 10 modems receive 5,000 messages to send. If one of >>> them >>> freeze, the correct would be not redistribute the remaining messages to >> the >>> others? >>> >>> For short: is not possible NOT LOOSE the messages queued when >>> stop/restart >> a >>> gateway or bearerbox/smsbox ??? Does anyone know a patch to this? >>> >>> Thanks in advance, >>> >>> Dino >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:20:42 -0500 >> From: Alvaro Cornejo <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Basic queue management - loss of message >> To: Users mailing list <[email protected]> >> Cc: [email protected] >> Message-ID: >> <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >> >> Hi >> >> You need to configure the store-xxx parameters on core group. If you >> do not define it, kannel will store on ram and messages will be lost >> in case kannel or the smsc restarts... >> >> Regards >> >> Alvaro >> >> > |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --------------------------------------| >> Env?e y Reciba Datos y mensajes de Texto (SMS) hacia y desde cualquier >> celular y Nextel >> en el Per?, M?xico y en mas de 180 paises. Use aplicaciones 2 vias via >> SMS y GPRS online >> Visitenos en www.perusms.NET www.smsglobal.com.mx y >> www.pravcom.com >> >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:13 AM, Dino Sane Moreira<[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I'm using Kannel for 3 or 4 mounts now and every week I check for a >>> patch >> or >>> new version fixing this absolutely basic issue: >>> >>> If you stop a gateway all messages queued are lost! >>> >>> So I ask you: if the connection with operator is lost during the sending >>> process, what options do you have? I mean, you check out the box and see >>> that you have 498 messages to send yet. The connection with that >>> specifically operator is gone... And so what? ?What can be done? >>> >>> Of course this does not happens often, otherwise would be impossible to >> use >>> Kannel. But for those who use modems, I think the problem could be far >>> bigger. A pool of 10 modems receive 5,000 messages to send. If one of >>> them >>> freeze, the correct would be not redistribute the remaining messages to >> the >>> others? >>> >>> For short: is not possible NOT LOOSE the messages queued when >>> stop/restart >> a >>> gateway or bearerbox/smsbox ??? Does anyone know a patch to this? >>> >>> Thanks in advance, >>> >>> Dino >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:00:03 +0300 >> From: "Nikos Balkanas" <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: Basic queue management - loss of message >> To: "Alvaro Cornejo" <[email protected]> >> Cc: [email protected] >> Message-ID: <000701ca21af$48c03570$02b2a...@tardis> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="windows-1253"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Hi, >> >> If store-location is misstyped, kannel will panic. How would you guys >> feel >> if this was also the case for store-* not specified? >> >> BR, >> Nikos >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Alvaro Cornejo" <[email protected]> >> To: "Users mailing list" <[email protected]> >> Cc: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 4:20 PM >> Subject: Re: Basic queue management - loss of message >> >> >> Hi >> >> You need to configure the store-xxx parameters on core group. If you >> do not define it, kannel will store on ram and messages will be lost >> in case kannel or the smsc restarts... >> >> Regards >> >> Alvaro >> >> > |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --------------------------------------| >> Env?e y Reciba Datos y mensajes de Texto (SMS) hacia y desde cualquier >> celular y Nextel >> en el Per?, M?xico y en mas de 180 paises. Use aplicaciones 2 vias via >> SMS y GPRS online >> Visitenos en www.perusms.NET www.smsglobal.com.mx y >> www.pravcom.com >> >> >> >> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:13 AM, Dino Sane Moreira<[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I'm using Kannel for 3 or 4 mounts now and every week I check for a >>> patch >>> or >>> new version fixing this absolutely basic issue: >>> >>> If you stop a gateway all messages queued are lost! >>> >>> So I ask you: if the connection with operator is lost during the sending >>> process, what options do you have? I mean, you check out the box and see >>> that you have 498 messages to send yet. The connection with that >>> specifically operator is gone... And so what? What can be done? >>> >>> Of course this does not happens often, otherwise would be impossible to >>> use >>> Kannel. But for those who use modems, I think the problem could be far >>> bigger. A pool of 10 modems receive 5,000 messages to send. If one of >>> them >>> freeze, the correct would be not redistribute the remaining messages to >>> the >>> others? >>> >>> For short: is not possible NOT LOOSE the messages queued when >>> stop/restart >> >>> a >>> gateway or bearerbox/smsbox ??? Does anyone know a patch to this? >>> >>> Thanks in advance, >>> >>> Dino >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> users mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.kannel.org/mailman/listinfo/users >> >> >> End of users Digest, Vol 36, Issue 48 >> ************************************* >> >> >
