Well, yeah... I mean, last time it happens a modem stop responding and a
script monitor alert me that queue was stopped. I check it out and saw the
pending messages. 
After stop the smsc and fix the modem, I restart and messages was gone.  I
look for them in store-location directory but they was really not there.

I think I could fix this using a mySQL store and moving messages to other(s)
smsc, but I'm afraid of put too many requests to database (it is already
used a lot)..

regards,

Dino


Hi,

The store mechanism is independent of any smsc, common for all of them and 
kannel will panic if it is not accesible.
Kannel backs up its message Q in the store-location you specify. Therefore 
the mechanism you ask is already in place.

Have you checked in the store-location for any messages during normal 
operation? Have you used the admin interface to view the Q contents?

BR,
Nikos

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dino Sane Moreira" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: Basic queue management - loss of message


> Donald,
>
> I use "smsc = smpp" and "smsc = at". It happens with any of them, although
> more with modems.
>
> Alvaro,
> I have configurated this:
>
> store-type      = spool
> store-location = /etc/kannel/store
>
> any ideas about?
>
> Thanks for promptly reply !
>
>
>
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>   4. Re: Basic queue management - loss of message (Alvaro Cornejo)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:13:49 -0300
> From: "Dino Sane Moreira" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Basic queue management - loss of message
> To: <[email protected]>
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hi All,
>
> I'm using Kannel for 3 or 4 mounts now and every week I check for a patch 
> or
> new version fixing this absolutely basic issue:
>
> If you stop a gateway all messages queued are lost!
>
> So I ask you: if the connection with operator is lost during the sending
> process, what options do you have? I mean, you check out the box and see
> that you have 498 messages to send yet. The connection with that
> specifically operator is gone... And so what?  What can be done?
>
> Of course this does not happens often, otherwise would be impossible to 
> use
> Kannel. But for those who use modems, I think the problem could be far
> bigger. A pool of 10 modems receive 5,000 messages to send. If one of them
> freeze, the correct would be not redistribute the remaining messages to 
> the
> others?
>
> For short: is not possible NOT LOOSE the messages queued when stop/restart

> a
> gateway or bearerbox/smsbox ??? Does anyone know a patch to this?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Dino
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:44:16 +0200
> From: Donald Jackson <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Basic queue management - loss of message
> To: Users mailing list <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Message-ID:
> <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> What kind of SMSCs are you using?
> I noticed that there is some inconsistency with regards to this behaviour
> between different SMSC types.
>
> Thanks,
> Donald
>
> 2009/8/20 Dino Sane Moreira <[email protected]>
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I'm using Kannel for 3 or 4 mounts now and every week I check for a patch
>> or
>> new version fixing this absolutely basic issue:
>>
>> If you stop a gateway all messages queued are lost!
>>
>> So I ask you: if the connection with operator is lost during the sending
>> process, what options do you have? I mean, you check out the box and see
>> that you have 498 messages to send yet. The connection with that
>> specifically operator is gone... And so what?  What can be done?
>>
>> Of course this does not happens often, otherwise would be impossible to
> use
>> Kannel. But for those who use modems, I think the problem could be far
>> bigger. A pool of 10 modems receive 5,000 messages to send. If one of 
>> them
>> freeze, the correct would be not redistribute the remaining messages to
> the
>> others?
>>
>> For short: is not possible NOT LOOSE the messages queued when 
>> stop/restart
>> a
>> gateway or bearerbox/smsbox ??? Does anyone know a patch to this?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Dino
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> -- 
> Donald Jackson
> http://www.ddj.co.za/
> donaldjster(a)gmail.com
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> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:44:16 +0200
> From: Donald Jackson <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Basic queue management - loss of message
> To: Users mailing list <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Message-ID:
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>
> What kind of SMSCs are you using?
> I noticed that there is some inconsistency with regards to this behaviour
> between different SMSC types.
>
> Thanks,
> Donald
>
> 2009/8/20 Dino Sane Moreira <[email protected]>
>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I'm using Kannel for 3 or 4 mounts now and every week I check for a patch
>> or
>> new version fixing this absolutely basic issue:
>>
>> If you stop a gateway all messages queued are lost!
>>
>> So I ask you: if the connection with operator is lost during the sending
>> process, what options do you have? I mean, you check out the box and see
>> that you have 498 messages to send yet. The connection with that
>> specifically operator is gone... And so what?  What can be done?
>>
>> Of course this does not happens often, otherwise would be impossible to
> use
>> Kannel. But for those who use modems, I think the problem could be far
>> bigger. A pool of 10 modems receive 5,000 messages to send. If one of 
>> them
>> freeze, the correct would be not redistribute the remaining messages to
> the
>> others?
>>
>> For short: is not possible NOT LOOSE the messages queued when 
>> stop/restart
>> a
>> gateway or bearerbox/smsbox ??? Does anyone know a patch to this?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Dino
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> -- 
> Donald Jackson
> http://www.ddj.co.za/
> donaldjster(a)gmail.com
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:20:42 -0500
> From: Alvaro Cornejo <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Basic queue management - loss of message
> To: Users mailing list <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
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> <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Hi
>
> You need to configure the store-xxx parameters on core group. If you
> do not define it, kannel will store on ram and messages  will be lost
> in case kannel or the smsc restarts...
>
> Regards
>
> Alvaro
>
>
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>
>
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:13 AM, Dino Sane Moreira<[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I'm using Kannel for 3 or 4 mounts now and every week I check for a patch
> or
>> new version fixing this absolutely basic issue:
>>
>> If you stop a gateway all messages queued are lost!
>>
>> So I ask you: if the connection with operator is lost during the sending
>> process, what options do you have? I mean, you check out the box and see
>> that you have 498 messages to send yet. The connection with that
>> specifically operator is gone... And so what? ?What can be done?
>>
>> Of course this does not happens often, otherwise would be impossible to
> use
>> Kannel. But for those who use modems, I think the problem could be far
>> bigger. A pool of 10 modems receive 5,000 messages to send. If one of 
>> them
>> freeze, the correct would be not redistribute the remaining messages to
> the
>> others?
>>
>> For short: is not possible NOT LOOSE the messages queued when 
>> stop/restart
> a
>> gateway or bearerbox/smsbox ??? Does anyone know a patch to this?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Dino
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:20:42 -0500
> From: Alvaro Cornejo <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Basic queue management - loss of message
> To: Users mailing list <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Message-ID:
> <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Hi
>
> You need to configure the store-xxx parameters on core group. If you
> do not define it, kannel will store on ram and messages  will be lost
> in case kannel or the smsc restarts...
>
> Regards
>
> Alvaro
>
>
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --------------------------------------|
> Env?e y Reciba Datos y mensajes de Texto (SMS) hacia y desde cualquier
> celular y Nextel
> en el Per?, M?xico y en mas de 180 paises. Use aplicaciones 2 vias via
> SMS y GPRS online
>              Visitenos en www.perusms.NET www.smsglobal.com.mx y
> www.pravcom.com
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:13 AM, Dino Sane Moreira<[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I'm using Kannel for 3 or 4 mounts now and every week I check for a patch
> or
>> new version fixing this absolutely basic issue:
>>
>> If you stop a gateway all messages queued are lost!
>>
>> So I ask you: if the connection with operator is lost during the sending
>> process, what options do you have? I mean, you check out the box and see
>> that you have 498 messages to send yet. The connection with that
>> specifically operator is gone... And so what? ?What can be done?
>>
>> Of course this does not happens often, otherwise would be impossible to
> use
>> Kannel. But for those who use modems, I think the problem could be far
>> bigger. A pool of 10 modems receive 5,000 messages to send. If one of 
>> them
>> freeze, the correct would be not redistribute the remaining messages to
> the
>> others?
>>
>> For short: is not possible NOT LOOSE the messages queued when 
>> stop/restart
> a
>> gateway or bearerbox/smsbox ??? Does anyone know a patch to this?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Dino
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:00:03 +0300
> From: "Nikos Balkanas" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Basic queue management - loss of message
> To: "Alvaro Cornejo" <[email protected]>
> Cc: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <000701ca21af$48c03570$02b2a...@tardis>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="windows-1253";
> reply-type=original
>
> Hi,
>
> If store-location is misstyped, kannel will panic. How would you guys feel
> if this was also the case for store-* not specified?
>
> BR,
> Nikos
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Alvaro Cornejo" <[email protected]>
> To: "Users mailing list" <[email protected]>
> Cc: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 4:20 PM
> Subject: Re: Basic queue management - loss of message
>
>
> Hi
>
> You need to configure the store-xxx parameters on core group. If you
> do not define it, kannel will store on ram and messages  will be lost
> in case kannel or the smsc restarts...
>
> Regards
>
> Alvaro
>
>
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --------------------------------------|
> Env?e y Reciba Datos y mensajes de Texto (SMS) hacia y desde cualquier
> celular y Nextel
> en el Per?, M?xico y en mas de 180 paises. Use aplicaciones 2 vias via
> SMS y GPRS online
>              Visitenos en www.perusms.NET www.smsglobal.com.mx y
> www.pravcom.com
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:13 AM, Dino Sane Moreira<[email protected]>
> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I'm using Kannel for 3 or 4 mounts now and every week I check for a patch
>> or
>> new version fixing this absolutely basic issue:
>>
>> If you stop a gateway all messages queued are lost!
>>
>> So I ask you: if the connection with operator is lost during the sending
>> process, what options do you have? I mean, you check out the box and see
>> that you have 498 messages to send yet. The connection with that
>> specifically operator is gone... And so what? What can be done?
>>
>> Of course this does not happens often, otherwise would be impossible to
>> use
>> Kannel. But for those who use modems, I think the problem could be far
>> bigger. A pool of 10 modems receive 5,000 messages to send. If one of 
>> them
>> freeze, the correct would be not redistribute the remaining messages to
>> the
>> others?
>>
>> For short: is not possible NOT LOOSE the messages queued when 
>> stop/restart
>
>> a
>> gateway or bearerbox/smsbox ??? Does anyone know a patch to this?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Dino
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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