Hi Dino, Which Kannel version are you using? Thanks, Donald
2009/8/20 Dino Sane Moreira <[email protected]> > Well, Q is empty after restart. The logs could say more, for sure, did not > check them. I will try simulate and post result, if any. > > But I am sure that the pending messages was not sended (mainly due the fact > that was modem and so, a slow decreasing of Q. Fifty messages pending, > reset, zero message pending. Just like that... > > regards > Dino > > -----Mensagem original----- > De: Nikos Balkanas [mailto:[email protected]] > Enviada em: quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2009 17:28 > Para: Dino Sane Moreira > Cc: [email protected] > Assunto: Re: Basic queue management - loss of message > > If I understand you correctly, if you restart bearerbox, or the smsc, it is > expected that the SMS will be processed and gone. The only sure way to know > about the fate of the sms after restart, is to look for it both in > bearerbox's access logs and the Q. > > BR, > Nikos > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dino Sane Moreira" <[email protected]> > To: "'Nikos Balkanas'" <[email protected]> > Cc: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 10:53 PM > Subject: RES: Basic queue management - loss of message > > > > Well, yeah... I mean, last time it happens a modem stop responding and a > > script monitor alert me that queue was stopped. I check it out and saw > the > > pending messages. > > After stop the smsc and fix the modem, I restart and messages was gone. > I > > look for them in store-location directory but they was really not there. > > > > I think I could fix this using a mySQL store and moving messages to > > other(s) > > smsc, but I'm afraid of put too many requests to database (it is already > > used a lot).. > > > > regards, > > > > Dino > > > > > > Hi, > > > > The store mechanism is independent of any smsc, common for all of them > and > > kannel will panic if it is not accesible. > > Kannel backs up its message Q in the store-location you specify. > Therefore > > the mechanism you ask is already in place. > > > > Have you checked in the store-location for any messages during normal > > operation? Have you used the admin interface to view the Q contents? > > > > BR, > > Nikos > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dino Sane Moreira" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 8:52 PM > > Subject: Re: Basic queue management - loss of message > > > > > >> Donald, > >> > >> I use "smsc = smpp" and "smsc = at". It happens with any of them, > >> although > >> more with modems. > >> > >> Alvaro, > >> I have configurated this: > >> > >> store-type = spool > >> store-location = /etc/kannel/store > >> > >> any ideas about? > >> > >> Thanks for promptly reply ! > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Mensagem original----- > >> De: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Em > >> nome de [email protected] > >> Enviada em: quinta-feira, 20 de agosto de 2009 13:00 > >> Para: [email protected] > >> Assunto: users Digest, Vol 36, Issue 48 > >> > >> Send users mailing list submissions to > >> [email protected] > >> > >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > >> http://www.kannel.org/mailman/listinfo/users > >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > >> [email protected] > >> > >> You can reach the person managing the list at > >> [email protected] > >> > >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > >> than "Re: Contents of users digest..." > >> > >> > >> Today's Topics: > >> > >> 1. Basic queue management - loss of message (Dino Sane Moreira) > >> 2. Re: Basic queue management - loss of message (Donald Jackson) > >> 3. Re: Basic queue management - loss of message (Donald Jackson) > >> 4. Re: Basic queue management - loss of message (Alvaro Cornejo) > >> 5. Re: Basic queue management - loss of message (Alvaro Cornejo) > >> 6. Re: Basic queue management - loss of message (Nikos Balkanas) > >> > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> Message: 1 > >> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:13:49 -0300 > >> From: "Dino Sane Moreira" <[email protected]> > >> Subject: Basic queue management - loss of message > >> To: <[email protected]> > >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >> > >> Hi All, > >> > >> I'm using Kannel for 3 or 4 mounts now and every week I check for a > patch > >> or > >> new version fixing this absolutely basic issue: > >> > >> If you stop a gateway all messages queued are lost! > >> > >> So I ask you: if the connection with operator is lost during the sending > >> process, what options do you have? I mean, you check out the box and see > >> that you have 498 messages to send yet. The connection with that > >> specifically operator is gone... And so what? What can be done? > >> > >> Of course this does not happens often, otherwise would be impossible to > >> use > >> Kannel. But for those who use modems, I think the problem could be far > >> bigger. A pool of 10 modems receive 5,000 messages to send. If one of > >> them > >> freeze, the correct would be not redistribute the remaining messages to > >> the > >> others? > >> > >> For short: is not possible NOT LOOSE the messages queued when > >> stop/restart > > > >> a > >> gateway or bearerbox/smsbox ??? Does anyone know a patch to this? > >> > >> Thanks in advance, > >> > >> Dino > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> Message: 2 > >> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:44:16 +0200 > >> From: Donald Jackson <[email protected]> > >> Subject: Re: Basic queue management - loss of message > >> To: Users mailing list <[email protected]> > >> Cc: [email protected] > >> Message-ID: > >> <[email protected]> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >> > >> What kind of SMSCs are you using? > >> I noticed that there is some inconsistency with regards to this > behaviour > >> between different SMSC types. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Donald > >> > >> 2009/8/20 Dino Sane Moreira <[email protected]> > >> > >>> Hi All, > >>> > >>> I'm using Kannel for 3 or 4 mounts now and every week I check for a > >>> patch > >>> or > >>> new version fixing this absolutely basic issue: > >>> > >>> If you stop a gateway all messages queued are lost! > >>> > >>> So I ask you: if the connection with operator is lost during the > sending > >>> process, what options do you have? I mean, you check out the box and > see > >>> that you have 498 messages to send yet. The connection with that > >>> specifically operator is gone... And so what? What can be done? > >>> > >>> Of course this does not happens often, otherwise would be impossible to > >> use > >>> Kannel. But for those who use modems, I think the problem could be far > >>> bigger. A pool of 10 modems receive 5,000 messages to send. If one of > >>> them > >>> freeze, the correct would be not redistribute the remaining messages to > >> the > >>> others? > >>> > >>> For short: is not possible NOT LOOSE the messages queued when > >>> stop/restart > >>> a > >>> gateway or bearerbox/smsbox ??? Does anyone know a patch to this? > >>> > >>> Thanks in advance, > >>> > >>> Dino > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Donald Jackson > >> http://www.ddj.co.za/ > >> donaldjster(a)gmail.com > >> -------------- next part -------------- > >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > >> URL: > >> > > > < > http://www.kannel.org/pipermail/users/attachments/20090820/279e6667/attachm > >> ent-0002.html> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> Message: 3 > >> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:44:16 +0200 > >> From: Donald Jackson <[email protected]> > >> Subject: Re: Basic queue management - loss of message > >> To: Users mailing list <[email protected]> > >> Cc: [email protected] > >> Message-ID: > >> <[email protected]> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >> > >> What kind of SMSCs are you using? > >> I noticed that there is some inconsistency with regards to this > behaviour > >> between different SMSC types. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Donald > >> > >> 2009/8/20 Dino Sane Moreira <[email protected]> > >> > >>> Hi All, > >>> > >>> I'm using Kannel for 3 or 4 mounts now and every week I check for a > >>> patch > >>> or > >>> new version fixing this absolutely basic issue: > >>> > >>> If you stop a gateway all messages queued are lost! > >>> > >>> So I ask you: if the connection with operator is lost during the > sending > >>> process, what options do you have? I mean, you check out the box and > see > >>> that you have 498 messages to send yet. The connection with that > >>> specifically operator is gone... And so what? What can be done? > >>> > >>> Of course this does not happens often, otherwise would be impossible to > >> use > >>> Kannel. But for those who use modems, I think the problem could be far > >>> bigger. A pool of 10 modems receive 5,000 messages to send. If one of > >>> them > >>> freeze, the correct would be not redistribute the remaining messages to > >> the > >>> others? > >>> > >>> For short: is not possible NOT LOOSE the messages queued when > >>> stop/restart > >>> a > >>> gateway or bearerbox/smsbox ??? Does anyone know a patch to this? > >>> > >>> Thanks in advance, > >>> > >>> Dino > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Donald Jackson > >> http://www.ddj.co.za/ > >> donaldjster(a)gmail.com > >> -------------- next part -------------- > >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > >> URL: > >> > > > < > http://www.kannel.org/pipermail/users/attachments/20090820/279e6667/attachm > >> ent-0003.html> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> Message: 4 > >> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:20:42 -0500 > >> From: Alvaro Cornejo <[email protected]> > >> Subject: Re: Basic queue management - loss of message > >> To: Users mailing list <[email protected]> > >> Cc: [email protected] > >> Message-ID: > >> <[email protected]> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >> > >> Hi > >> > >> You need to configure the store-xxx parameters on core group. If you > >> do not define it, kannel will store on ram and messages will be lost > >> in case kannel or the smsc restarts... > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> Alvaro > >> > >> > > > > |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> --------------------------------------| > >> Env?e y Reciba Datos y mensajes de Texto (SMS) hacia y desde cualquier > >> celular y Nextel > >> en el Per?, M?xico y en mas de 180 paises. Use aplicaciones 2 vias via > >> SMS y GPRS online > >> Visitenos en www.perusms.NET www.smsglobal.com.mx y > >> www.pravcom.com > >> > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:13 AM, Dino Sane Moreira<[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>> Hi All, > >>> > >>> I'm using Kannel for 3 or 4 mounts now and every week I check for a > >>> patch > >> or > >>> new version fixing this absolutely basic issue: > >>> > >>> If you stop a gateway all messages queued are lost! > >>> > >>> So I ask you: if the connection with operator is lost during the > sending > >>> process, what options do you have? I mean, you check out the box and > see > >>> that you have 498 messages to send yet. The connection with that > >>> specifically operator is gone... And so what? ?What can be done? > >>> > >>> Of course this does not happens often, otherwise would be impossible to > >> use > >>> Kannel. But for those who use modems, I think the problem could be far > >>> bigger. A pool of 10 modems receive 5,000 messages to send. If one of > >>> them > >>> freeze, the correct would be not redistribute the remaining messages to > >> the > >>> others? > >>> > >>> For short: is not possible NOT LOOSE the messages queued when > >>> stop/restart > >> a > >>> gateway or bearerbox/smsbox ??? Does anyone know a patch to this? > >>> > >>> Thanks in advance, > >>> > >>> Dino > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> Message: 5 > >> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:20:42 -0500 > >> From: Alvaro Cornejo <[email protected]> > >> Subject: Re: Basic queue management - loss of message > >> To: Users mailing list <[email protected]> > >> Cc: [email protected] > >> Message-ID: > >> <[email protected]> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >> > >> Hi > >> > >> You need to configure the store-xxx parameters on core group. If you > >> do not define it, kannel will store on ram and messages will be lost > >> in case kannel or the smsc restarts... > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> Alvaro > >> > >> > > > > |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> --------------------------------------| > >> Env?e y Reciba Datos y mensajes de Texto (SMS) hacia y desde cualquier > >> celular y Nextel > >> en el Per?, M?xico y en mas de 180 paises. Use aplicaciones 2 vias via > >> SMS y GPRS online > >> Visitenos en www.perusms.NET www.smsglobal.com.mx y > >> www.pravcom.com > >> > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:13 AM, Dino Sane Moreira<[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>> Hi All, > >>> > >>> I'm using Kannel for 3 or 4 mounts now and every week I check for a > >>> patch > >> or > >>> new version fixing this absolutely basic issue: > >>> > >>> If you stop a gateway all messages queued are lost! > >>> > >>> So I ask you: if the connection with operator is lost during the > sending > >>> process, what options do you have? I mean, you check out the box and > see > >>> that you have 498 messages to send yet. The connection with that > >>> specifically operator is gone... And so what? ?What can be done? > >>> > >>> Of course this does not happens often, otherwise would be impossible to > >> use > >>> Kannel. But for those who use modems, I think the problem could be far > >>> bigger. A pool of 10 modems receive 5,000 messages to send. If one of > >>> them > >>> freeze, the correct would be not redistribute the remaining messages to > >> the > >>> others? > >>> > >>> For short: is not possible NOT LOOSE the messages queued when > >>> stop/restart > >> a > >>> gateway or bearerbox/smsbox ??? Does anyone know a patch to this? > >>> > >>> Thanks in advance, > >>> > >>> Dino > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> Message: 6 > >> Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:00:03 +0300 > >> From: "Nikos Balkanas" <[email protected]> > >> Subject: Re: Basic queue management - loss of message > >> To: "Alvaro Cornejo" <[email protected]> > >> Cc: [email protected] > >> Message-ID: <000701ca21af$48c03570$02b2a...@tardis> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="windows-1253"; > >> reply-type=original > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> If store-location is misstyped, kannel will panic. How would you guys > >> feel > >> if this was also the case for store-* not specified? > >> > >> BR, > >> Nikos > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Alvaro Cornejo" <[email protected]> > >> To: "Users mailing list" <[email protected]> > >> Cc: <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 4:20 PM > >> Subject: Re: Basic queue management - loss of message > >> > >> > >> Hi > >> > >> You need to configure the store-xxx parameters on core group. If you > >> do not define it, kannel will store on ram and messages will be lost > >> in case kannel or the smsc restarts... > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> Alvaro > >> > >> > > > > |--------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> --------------------------------------| > >> Env?e y Reciba Datos y mensajes de Texto (SMS) hacia y desde cualquier > >> celular y Nextel > >> en el Per?, M?xico y en mas de 180 paises. Use aplicaciones 2 vias via > >> SMS y GPRS online > >> Visitenos en www.perusms.NET www.smsglobal.com.mx y > >> www.pravcom.com > >> > >> > >> > >> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:13 AM, Dino Sane Moreira<[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>> Hi All, > >>> > >>> I'm using Kannel for 3 or 4 mounts now and every week I check for a > >>> patch > >>> or > >>> new version fixing this absolutely basic issue: > >>> > >>> If you stop a gateway all messages queued are lost! > >>> > >>> So I ask you: if the connection with operator is lost during the > sending > >>> process, what options do you have? I mean, you check out the box and > see > >>> that you have 498 messages to send yet. The connection with that > >>> specifically operator is gone... And so what? What can be done? > >>> > >>> Of course this does not happens often, otherwise would be impossible to > >>> use > >>> Kannel. But for those who use modems, I think the problem could be far > >>> bigger. A pool of 10 modems receive 5,000 messages to send. If one of > >>> them > >>> freeze, the correct would be not redistribute the remaining messages to > >>> the > >>> others? > >>> > >>> For short: is not possible NOT LOOSE the messages queued when > >>> stop/restart > >> > >>> a > >>> gateway or bearerbox/smsbox ??? Does anyone know a patch to this? > >>> > >>> Thanks in advance, > >>> > >>> Dino > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> users mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://www.kannel.org/mailman/listinfo/users > >> > >> > >> End of users Digest, Vol 36, Issue 48 > >> ************************************* > >> > >> > > > > > -- Donald Jackson http://www.ddj.co.za/ donaldjster(a)gmail.com
