Donald,

I use "smsc = smpp" and "smsc = at". It happens with any of them, although
more with modems.

Alvaro,
I have configurated this:

store-type      = spool
store-location = /etc/kannel/store

any ideas about?

Thanks for promptly reply !



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Today's Topics:

   1. Basic queue management - loss of message (Dino Sane Moreira)
   2. Re: Basic queue management - loss of message (Donald Jackson)
   3. Re: Basic queue management - loss of message (Donald Jackson)
   4. Re: Basic queue management - loss of message (Alvaro Cornejo)
   5. Re: Basic queue management - loss of message (Alvaro Cornejo)
   6. Re: Basic queue management - loss of message (Nikos Balkanas)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:13:49 -0300
From: "Dino Sane Moreira" <[email protected]>
Subject: Basic queue management - loss of message
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain;       charset="us-ascii"

Hi All,

I'm using Kannel for 3 or 4 mounts now and every week I check for a patch or
new version fixing this absolutely basic issue:

If you stop a gateway all messages queued are lost!

So I ask you: if the connection with operator is lost during the sending
process, what options do you have? I mean, you check out the box and see
that you have 498 messages to send yet. The connection with that
specifically operator is gone... And so what?  What can be done?

Of course this does not happens often, otherwise would be impossible to use
Kannel. But for those who use modems, I think the problem could be far
bigger. A pool of 10 modems receive 5,000 messages to send. If one of them
freeze, the correct would be not redistribute the remaining messages to the
others? 

For short: is not possible NOT LOOSE the messages queued when stop/restart a
gateway or bearerbox/smsbox ??? Does anyone know a patch to this?

Thanks in advance,

Dino




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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:44:16 +0200
From: Donald Jackson <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Basic queue management - loss of message
To: Users mailing list <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Message-ID:
        <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

What kind of SMSCs are you using?
I noticed that there is some inconsistency with regards to this behaviour
between different SMSC types.

Thanks,
Donald

2009/8/20 Dino Sane Moreira <[email protected]>

> Hi All,
>
> I'm using Kannel for 3 or 4 mounts now and every week I check for a patch
> or
> new version fixing this absolutely basic issue:
>
> If you stop a gateway all messages queued are lost!
>
> So I ask you: if the connection with operator is lost during the sending
> process, what options do you have? I mean, you check out the box and see
> that you have 498 messages to send yet. The connection with that
> specifically operator is gone... And so what?  What can be done?
>
> Of course this does not happens often, otherwise would be impossible to
use
> Kannel. But for those who use modems, I think the problem could be far
> bigger. A pool of 10 modems receive 5,000 messages to send. If one of them
> freeze, the correct would be not redistribute the remaining messages to
the
> others?
>
> For short: is not possible NOT LOOSE the messages queued when stop/restart
> a
> gateway or bearerbox/smsbox ??? Does anyone know a patch to this?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Dino
>
>
>


-- 
Donald Jackson
http://www.ddj.co.za/
donaldjster(a)gmail.com
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 13:44:16 +0200
From: Donald Jackson <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Basic queue management - loss of message
To: Users mailing list <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Message-ID:
        <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

What kind of SMSCs are you using?
I noticed that there is some inconsistency with regards to this behaviour
between different SMSC types.

Thanks,
Donald

2009/8/20 Dino Sane Moreira <[email protected]>

> Hi All,
>
> I'm using Kannel for 3 or 4 mounts now and every week I check for a patch
> or
> new version fixing this absolutely basic issue:
>
> If you stop a gateway all messages queued are lost!
>
> So I ask you: if the connection with operator is lost during the sending
> process, what options do you have? I mean, you check out the box and see
> that you have 498 messages to send yet. The connection with that
> specifically operator is gone... And so what?  What can be done?
>
> Of course this does not happens often, otherwise would be impossible to
use
> Kannel. But for those who use modems, I think the problem could be far
> bigger. A pool of 10 modems receive 5,000 messages to send. If one of them
> freeze, the correct would be not redistribute the remaining messages to
the
> others?
>
> For short: is not possible NOT LOOSE the messages queued when stop/restart
> a
> gateway or bearerbox/smsbox ??? Does anyone know a patch to this?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Dino
>
>
>


-- 
Donald Jackson
http://www.ddj.co.za/
donaldjster(a)gmail.com
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:20:42 -0500
From: Alvaro Cornejo <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Basic queue management - loss of message
To: Users mailing list <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Message-ID:
        <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hi

You need to configure the store-xxx parameters on core group. If you
do not define it, kannel will store on ram and messages  will be lost
in case kannel or the smsc restarts...

Regards

Alvaro

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On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:13 AM, Dino Sane Moreira<[email protected]>
wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'm using Kannel for 3 or 4 mounts now and every week I check for a patch
or
> new version fixing this absolutely basic issue:
>
> If you stop a gateway all messages queued are lost!
>
> So I ask you: if the connection with operator is lost during the sending
> process, what options do you have? I mean, you check out the box and see
> that you have 498 messages to send yet. The connection with that
> specifically operator is gone... And so what? ?What can be done?
>
> Of course this does not happens often, otherwise would be impossible to
use
> Kannel. But for those who use modems, I think the problem could be far
> bigger. A pool of 10 modems receive 5,000 messages to send. If one of them
> freeze, the correct would be not redistribute the remaining messages to
the
> others?
>
> For short: is not possible NOT LOOSE the messages queued when stop/restart
a
> gateway or bearerbox/smsbox ??? Does anyone know a patch to this?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Dino
>
>
>



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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:20:42 -0500
From: Alvaro Cornejo <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Basic queue management - loss of message
To: Users mailing list <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Message-ID:
        <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hi

You need to configure the store-xxx parameters on core group. If you
do not define it, kannel will store on ram and messages  will be lost
in case kannel or the smsc restarts...

Regards

Alvaro

|---------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------|
Env?e y Reciba Datos y mensajes de Texto (SMS) hacia y desde cualquier
celular y Nextel
en el Per?, M?xico y en mas de 180 paises. Use aplicaciones 2 vias via
SMS y GPRS online
              Visitenos en www.perusms.NET www.smsglobal.com.mx y
www.pravcom.com



On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:13 AM, Dino Sane Moreira<[email protected]>
wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'm using Kannel for 3 or 4 mounts now and every week I check for a patch
or
> new version fixing this absolutely basic issue:
>
> If you stop a gateway all messages queued are lost!
>
> So I ask you: if the connection with operator is lost during the sending
> process, what options do you have? I mean, you check out the box and see
> that you have 498 messages to send yet. The connection with that
> specifically operator is gone... And so what? ?What can be done?
>
> Of course this does not happens often, otherwise would be impossible to
use
> Kannel. But for those who use modems, I think the problem could be far
> bigger. A pool of 10 modems receive 5,000 messages to send. If one of them
> freeze, the correct would be not redistribute the remaining messages to
the
> others?
>
> For short: is not possible NOT LOOSE the messages queued when stop/restart
a
> gateway or bearerbox/smsbox ??? Does anyone know a patch to this?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Dino
>
>
>



------------------------------

Message: 6
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:00:03 +0300
From: "Nikos Balkanas" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Basic queue management - loss of message
To: "Alvaro Cornejo" <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Message-ID: <000701ca21af$48c03570$02b2a...@tardis>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="windows-1253";
        reply-type=original

Hi,

If store-location is misstyped, kannel will panic. How would you guys feel 
if this was also the case for store-* not specified?

BR,
Nikos
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alvaro Cornejo" <[email protected]>
To: "Users mailing list" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2009 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: Basic queue management - loss of message


Hi

You need to configure the store-xxx parameters on core group. If you
do not define it, kannel will store on ram and messages  will be lost
in case kannel or the smsc restarts...

Regards

Alvaro

|---------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------|
Env?e y Reciba Datos y mensajes de Texto (SMS) hacia y desde cualquier
celular y Nextel
en el Per?, M?xico y en mas de 180 paises. Use aplicaciones 2 vias via
SMS y GPRS online
              Visitenos en www.perusms.NET www.smsglobal.com.mx y
www.pravcom.com



On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:13 AM, Dino Sane Moreira<[email protected]> 
wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'm using Kannel for 3 or 4 mounts now and every week I check for a patch 
> or
> new version fixing this absolutely basic issue:
>
> If you stop a gateway all messages queued are lost!
>
> So I ask you: if the connection with operator is lost during the sending
> process, what options do you have? I mean, you check out the box and see
> that you have 498 messages to send yet. The connection with that
> specifically operator is gone... And so what? What can be done?
>
> Of course this does not happens often, otherwise would be impossible to 
> use
> Kannel. But for those who use modems, I think the problem could be far
> bigger. A pool of 10 modems receive 5,000 messages to send. If one of them
> freeze, the correct would be not redistribute the remaining messages to 
> the
> others?
>
> For short: is not possible NOT LOOSE the messages queued when stop/restart

> a
> gateway or bearerbox/smsbox ??? Does anyone know a patch to this?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Dino
>
>
>




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