+ 1 to all that Justin said. Just to add a little more, Jolokia polls all
the JMX beans regularly and this does not currently scale, once you hit a
certain number of addresses the console just hangs, most of this is just
for the JMX tree and isnt needed for the non JMX view. I am currently
working with the hawtIO team to introduce a caching mechanism to alleviate
some of this and once that is complete I will add a flag to disable the JMX
view which will in turn mean no polling is needed. This will allow the
console to scale.

If I get time today I will go thru the bullet list raised and create some
jiras. Just fyi the design of components was really driven by what
Patternfly <https://www.patternfly.org/> exposes by default, making the
console experience the same would not be a sensible approach and would have
taken much longer.

As always this is a community project and it would be great to have some
other folk contribute, currently it is only me and my time is limited,
although I will prioritise any issues and address them when I have time.

Andy

On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 at 23:43, Justin Bertram <jbert...@apache.org> wrote:

> It's worth noting that there have been 2 independent releases of the
> console that was integrated into and shipped with 2.40.0. Both of these
> releases were announced on this list [1] [2]. Both announcements included a
> notification that it would replace the existing console. The first release
> was in early October 2024 so there's been roughly 6 months to test and
> provide feedback.
>
> I realize folks are busy, etc. My point is simply that early feedback was
> an option, and the redesign shouldn't have been a surprise. I'm not sure
> what else could have been done to make a meaningful difference.
>
>
> Justin
>
> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/vzw5qr4zs59lm35g99g1034jgfcynm6x
> [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/cm6001qcmp98lpx7p1p75pc3v1l0c0yr
>
> On Wed, Apr 9, 2025 at 3:44 AM Jan Šmucr <jan.sm...@aimtecglobal.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello.
> > I know I may get some hate for this, but still, I'd like to ask: Is the
> > new console about to get some usability upgrades?
> > We're running 2.35.0 atm, and soon I'll be asked to upgrade to a newer
> > version. But admittedly, the new console gives me wrinkles. Simply put,
> > it's more JMX and less Artemis, and it wastes way too much space for a
> > productivity tool.
> > 2.39.0 main screen with address tree expanded: https://ibb.co/JRqmmqHk
> > 2.40.0 main screen with address tree expanded: https://ibb.co/svh1DFTh
> > Are there plans to adjust the console towards the previous user
> > experience, or can I somehow revert to the original one?
> > Thank you.
> > Jan
> >
>

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