there is a sort button left most of the toolbar that allows you to sort by most columns
On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 at 15:16, James W. Blackwood <jamesblackw...@gmail.com> wrote: > Back in 2.3.0 I used to be able to click on Addresses then the header for > message count to sort everything descending to find the culprit that was > causing the problem. This sorting was removed in later versions. Could > you make an option/setting to bring it back? Or perhaps there is a flag > for it, I just haven't found it yet. > > On Wed, Apr 9, 2025 at 8:03 AM Andy Taylor <andy.tayl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 at 12:38, Jan Šmucr <jan.sm...@aimtecglobal.com> > wrote: > > > > > Hello Andy. > > > > > > The "Artemis" menu lacks the tree, whereas the "Artemis JMX" menu > > presents > > > the tree as as it is in the "JMX" section: Without Artemis-specific > > > customizations. And without the tree, the navigation isn't as > > > straightforward as it used to be. > > > > > > > By design, none of the views I have removed from the JMX view were in > fact > > connected to the JMX tree, so they were moved to their own view, you can > do > > everything now you could via JMX from the JMX view. > > > > > > > > > > I'll try to summarize the issues I've found so far: > > > > > > > A lot of those are implemented by HawtIO/Patternfly and just exposed, I > > will when i get time raise jiras for those under our control, as I said > > feel free to contribute, I have spent the last 2 years working on the > > console in my free time so don't have a lot of bandwidth. Most of the > > feedback I have received has been pretty positive, it is a much more > modern > > framework, more responsive and looks better but I am sure that > improvements > > can be made. > > > > > > > * The "back" browser button no longer works. Wherever I am, it always > > > returns me to the initial page. > > > * The tree (being a plain tree of JMX objects) is at least double the > > > size, and that's without the additional padding. > > > * The "folders" in the tree (again, due to its JMX nature) no longer > have > > > any attributes and operations. In the previous UI, they had. > > > * The tree control does not have its own frame, so when digging deeper, > > > object attributes remain at the top of the page, and I need to scroll > > back. > > > Originally, I didn't have to. > > > * Navigating without the tree means clicking very little numbers, such > as > > > the number of queues when navigating from a list of addresses. > > > * Getting back from the list of queues to the list of addresses is only > > > possible by clicking the Addresses panel, and that returns me back to > > page > > > 1. > > > * Navigating without the tree forces me to open the list of queues. > > > However, some queues may have very complicated filters, so the filter > > > column needs to stay hidden. > > > * For some reason, the default sorting queues and addresses is by their > > > ID. The same goes for the search panel. > > > * When running two servers on the same station, for some reason, > working > > > with the "localhost:8161" console logs me off from the "localhost:8162" > > > console, and vice versa. > > > * The "Broker: ..." text takes up vertical space. If it really must be > > > there, then maybe the header bar would be a good place to put it. The > > > original UI didn't have it, as it was always visible in the tree. > > > * And the padding in general. I know it's nice to look at, but as soon > as > > > there's more information on the screen, it's at the expense of > usability. > > > It's not a mobile app. > > > > > > Jan > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Andy Taylor <andy.tayl...@gmail.com> > > > Sent: středa 9. dubna 2025 11:52 > > > To: users@activemq.apache.org > > > Subject: Re: 2.40.0 HAWTIO console design > > > > > > On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 at 09:44, Jan Šmucr <jan.sm...@aimtecglobal.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hello. > > > > I know I may get some hate for this, but still, I'd like to ask: Is > > > > the new console about to get some usability upgrades? > > > > > > > > > > Upgrades as in? > > > > > > > > > > We're running 2.35.0 atm, and soon I'll be asked to upgrade to a > newer > > > > version. But admittedly, the new console gives me wrinkles. Simply > > > > put, it's more JMX and less Artemis, and it wastes way too much space > > > > for a productivity tool. > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure I agree, the new console has its own JMX free menu item > > > which doesn't use JMX at all, so you can do all the same things as the > > > previous console either using the JMX view or the non JMX view, maybe > you > > > missed this? > > > > > > > > > > 2.39.0 main screen with address tree expanded: > > > > > https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fibb. > > > > co%2FJRqmmqHk&data=05%7C02%7CJan.Smucr%40aimtecglobal.com > %7Ca9d106e1ab > > > > > bf433f8a7708dd774c3995%7Cb3811028ce6e4b01bcb0db419328ffc5%7C1%7C0%7C63 > > > > > 8797891471234617%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiO > > > > > iIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C > > > > > %7C%7C&sdata=7BboC%2FfvY4bbt8rdbWwG4E15M1quBMM8b8a2C02QT9A%3D&reserved > > > > =0 > > > > 2.40.0 main screen with address tree expanded: > > > > > https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fibb. > > > > co%2Fsvh1DFTh&data=05%7C02%7CJan.Smucr%40aimtecglobal.com > %7Ca9d106e1ab > > > > > bf433f8a7708dd774c3995%7Cb3811028ce6e4b01bcb0db419328ffc5%7C1%7C0%7C63 > > > > > 8797891471262398%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiO > > > > > iIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C > > > > > %7C%7C&sdata=ZJqoaspiOUAAVqNflWLy344EJ5c5UfLxLenGFUq4sFw%3D&reserved=0 > > > > Are there plans to adjust the console towards the previous user > > > > experience, or can I somehow revert to the original one? > > > > > > > > > > There isn't, but if you have any specific improvements you would like > > > please ask and remember the console is open source and any > contributions > > > are always welcome. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > Jan > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@activemq.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@activemq.apache.org > > > For further information, visit: https://activemq.apache.org/contact > > > > > > > > > > > >
