On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 at 12:38, Jan Šmucr <jan.sm...@aimtecglobal.com> wrote:
> Hello Andy. > > The "Artemis" menu lacks the tree, whereas the "Artemis JMX" menu presents > the tree as as it is in the "JMX" section: Without Artemis-specific > customizations. And without the tree, the navigation isn't as > straightforward as it used to be. > By design, none of the views I have removed from the JMX view were in fact connected to the JMX tree, so they were moved to their own view, you can do everything now you could via JMX from the JMX view. > > I'll try to summarize the issues I've found so far: > A lot of those are implemented by HawtIO/Patternfly and just exposed, I will when i get time raise jiras for those under our control, as I said feel free to contribute, I have spent the last 2 years working on the console in my free time so don't have a lot of bandwidth. Most of the feedback I have received has been pretty positive, it is a much more modern framework, more responsive and looks better but I am sure that improvements can be made. > * The "back" browser button no longer works. Wherever I am, it always > returns me to the initial page. > * The tree (being a plain tree of JMX objects) is at least double the > size, and that's without the additional padding. > * The "folders" in the tree (again, due to its JMX nature) no longer have > any attributes and operations. In the previous UI, they had. > * The tree control does not have its own frame, so when digging deeper, > object attributes remain at the top of the page, and I need to scroll back. > Originally, I didn't have to. > * Navigating without the tree means clicking very little numbers, such as > the number of queues when navigating from a list of addresses. > * Getting back from the list of queues to the list of addresses is only > possible by clicking the Addresses panel, and that returns me back to page > 1. > * Navigating without the tree forces me to open the list of queues. > However, some queues may have very complicated filters, so the filter > column needs to stay hidden. > * For some reason, the default sorting queues and addresses is by their > ID. The same goes for the search panel. > * When running two servers on the same station, for some reason, working > with the "localhost:8161" console logs me off from the "localhost:8162" > console, and vice versa. > * The "Broker: ..." text takes up vertical space. If it really must be > there, then maybe the header bar would be a good place to put it. The > original UI didn't have it, as it was always visible in the tree. > * And the padding in general. I know it's nice to look at, but as soon as > there's more information on the screen, it's at the expense of usability. > It's not a mobile app. > > Jan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andy Taylor <andy.tayl...@gmail.com> > Sent: středa 9. dubna 2025 11:52 > To: users@activemq.apache.org > Subject: Re: 2.40.0 HAWTIO console design > > On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 at 09:44, Jan Šmucr <jan.sm...@aimtecglobal.com> wrote: > > > Hello. > > I know I may get some hate for this, but still, I'd like to ask: Is > > the new console about to get some usability upgrades? > > > > Upgrades as in? > > > > We're running 2.35.0 atm, and soon I'll be asked to upgrade to a newer > > version. But admittedly, the new console gives me wrinkles. Simply > > put, it's more JMX and less Artemis, and it wastes way too much space > > for a productivity tool. > > > > I am not sure I agree, the new console has its own JMX free menu item > which doesn't use JMX at all, so you can do all the same things as the > previous console either using the JMX view or the non JMX view, maybe you > missed this? > > > > 2.39.0 main screen with address tree expanded: > > https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fibb. > > co%2FJRqmmqHk&data=05%7C02%7CJan.Smucr%40aimtecglobal.com%7Ca9d106e1ab > > bf433f8a7708dd774c3995%7Cb3811028ce6e4b01bcb0db419328ffc5%7C1%7C0%7C63 > > 8797891471234617%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiO > > iIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C > > %7C%7C&sdata=7BboC%2FfvY4bbt8rdbWwG4E15M1quBMM8b8a2C02QT9A%3D&reserved > > =0 > > 2.40.0 main screen with address tree expanded: > > https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fibb. > > co%2Fsvh1DFTh&data=05%7C02%7CJan.Smucr%40aimtecglobal.com%7Ca9d106e1ab > > bf433f8a7708dd774c3995%7Cb3811028ce6e4b01bcb0db419328ffc5%7C1%7C0%7C63 > > 8797891471262398%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiO > > iIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C > > %7C%7C&sdata=ZJqoaspiOUAAVqNflWLy344EJ5c5UfLxLenGFUq4sFw%3D&reserved=0 > > Are there plans to adjust the console towards the previous user > > experience, or can I somehow revert to the original one? > > > > There isn't, but if you have any specific improvements you would like > please ask and remember the console is open source and any contributions > are always welcome. > > > > Thank you. > > Jan > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@activemq.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@activemq.apache.org > For further information, visit: https://activemq.apache.org/contact > > >
