Hello Andy. The "Artemis" menu lacks the tree, whereas the "Artemis JMX" menu presents the tree as as it is in the "JMX" section: Without Artemis-specific customizations. And without the tree, the navigation isn't as straightforward as it used to be.
I'll try to summarize the issues I've found so far: * The "back" browser button no longer works. Wherever I am, it always returns me to the initial page. * The tree (being a plain tree of JMX objects) is at least double the size, and that's without the additional padding. * The "folders" in the tree (again, due to its JMX nature) no longer have any attributes and operations. In the previous UI, they had. * The tree control does not have its own frame, so when digging deeper, object attributes remain at the top of the page, and I need to scroll back. Originally, I didn't have to. * Navigating without the tree means clicking very little numbers, such as the number of queues when navigating from a list of addresses. * Getting back from the list of queues to the list of addresses is only possible by clicking the Addresses panel, and that returns me back to page 1. * Navigating without the tree forces me to open the list of queues. However, some queues may have very complicated filters, so the filter column needs to stay hidden. * For some reason, the default sorting queues and addresses is by their ID. The same goes for the search panel. * When running two servers on the same station, for some reason, working with the "localhost:8161" console logs me off from the "localhost:8162" console, and vice versa. * The "Broker: ..." text takes up vertical space. If it really must be there, then maybe the header bar would be a good place to put it. The original UI didn't have it, as it was always visible in the tree. * And the padding in general. I know it's nice to look at, but as soon as there's more information on the screen, it's at the expense of usability. It's not a mobile app. Jan -----Original Message----- From: Andy Taylor <andy.tayl...@gmail.com> Sent: středa 9. dubna 2025 11:52 To: users@activemq.apache.org Subject: Re: 2.40.0 HAWTIO console design On Wed, 9 Apr 2025 at 09:44, Jan Šmucr <jan.sm...@aimtecglobal.com> wrote: > Hello. > I know I may get some hate for this, but still, I'd like to ask: Is > the new console about to get some usability upgrades? > Upgrades as in? > We're running 2.35.0 atm, and soon I'll be asked to upgrade to a newer > version. But admittedly, the new console gives me wrinkles. Simply > put, it's more JMX and less Artemis, and it wastes way too much space > for a productivity tool. > I am not sure I agree, the new console has its own JMX free menu item which doesn't use JMX at all, so you can do all the same things as the previous console either using the JMX view or the non JMX view, maybe you missed this? > 2.39.0 main screen with address tree expanded: > https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fibb. > co%2FJRqmmqHk&data=05%7C02%7CJan.Smucr%40aimtecglobal.com%7Ca9d106e1ab > bf433f8a7708dd774c3995%7Cb3811028ce6e4b01bcb0db419328ffc5%7C1%7C0%7C63 > 8797891471234617%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiO > iIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C > %7C%7C&sdata=7BboC%2FfvY4bbt8rdbWwG4E15M1quBMM8b8a2C02QT9A%3D&reserved > =0 > 2.40.0 main screen with address tree expanded: > https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fibb. > co%2Fsvh1DFTh&data=05%7C02%7CJan.Smucr%40aimtecglobal.com%7Ca9d106e1ab > bf433f8a7708dd774c3995%7Cb3811028ce6e4b01bcb0db419328ffc5%7C1%7C0%7C63 > 8797891471262398%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiO > iIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C > %7C%7C&sdata=ZJqoaspiOUAAVqNflWLy344EJ5c5UfLxLenGFUq4sFw%3D&reserved=0 > Are there plans to adjust the console towards the previous user > experience, or can I somehow revert to the original one? > There isn't, but if you have any specific improvements you would like please ask and remember the console is open source and any contributions are always welcome. > Thank you. > Jan > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@activemq.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@activemq.apache.org For further information, visit: https://activemq.apache.org/contact
