Hello Justin. I did see the console while it was still a standalone product, and I somehow thought that it was a very early attempt to integrate a new HawtIO version, and that the development will continue towards the previous experience. It's a user interface after all, and users who are not devs are not very interested in the guts of the software. On contrary, their main concern is for it to look and behave more or less the same as they're used to. With that said, I maintain the MQ service here, and I develop the tools around it; I also contributed to Artemis with some less important changes---but I'm not its only user.
I'm never happy about providing negative feedback, especially when people dedicate their free time to maintain the product. I'll gladly offer my cooperation on this, yet there are two "buts". First is the budget. As this is my job, I must receive a permission from the management to implement changes. And if the cheaper option is to increase the technical debt, odds are that we just won't upgrade until a severe technical issue arises. My second concern is that if this is the way the UI is supposed to behave (hence my question on usability upgrades), then it's likely that my changes won't get approved. So, for now, the only thing I can offer, is quick feedback. With our static setup*, the UI scalability is not an issue. Therefore, if there was a way to revert to the older UI, I'd be more than happy. Please just don't get mad at me, folks. :-) I really appreciate what you're doing, and Artemis surely is one of the best pieces of software I've had the pleasure to work with. Jan *On this note, I may have an interesting thing to share with you in a different thread. -----Original Message----- From: Justin Bertram <jbert...@apache.org> Sent: čtvrtek 10. dubna 2025 0:43 To: users@activemq.apache.org Subject: Re: 2.40.0 HAWTIO console design It's worth noting that there have been 2 independent releases of the console that was integrated into and shipped with 2.40.0. Both of these releases were announced on this list [1] [2]. Both announcements included a notification that it would replace the existing console. The first release was in early October 2024 so there's been roughly 6 months to test and provide feedback. I realize folks are busy, etc. My point is simply that early feedback was an option, and the redesign shouldn't have been a surprise. I'm not sure what else could have been done to make a meaningful difference. Justin [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/vzw5qr4zs59lm35g99g1034jgfcynm6x [2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/cm6001qcmp98lpx7p1p75pc3v1l0c0yr On Wed, Apr 9, 2025 at 3:44 AM Jan Šmucr <jan.sm...@aimtecglobal.com> wrote: > Hello. > I know I may get some hate for this, but still, I'd like to ask: Is > the new console about to get some usability upgrades? > We're running 2.35.0 atm, and soon I'll be asked to upgrade to a newer > version. But admittedly, the new console gives me wrinkles. Simply > put, it's more JMX and less Artemis, and it wastes way too much space > for a productivity tool. > 2.39.0 main screen with address tree expanded: > https://ibb/. > co%2FJRqmmqHk&data=05%7C02%7CJan.Smucr%40aimtecglobal.com%7C5548bb8b18 > be4725f6c208dd77b812f7%7Cb3811028ce6e4b01bcb0db419328ffc5%7C1%7C0%7C63 > 8798354779277076%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiO > iIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C > %7C%7C&sdata=92xrYE0YvqhOofCkEjEnQCWFl659EGPAYuEwmaG6pGM%3D&reserved=0 > 2.40.0 main screen with address tree expanded: > https://ibb/. > co%2Fsvh1DFTh&data=05%7C02%7CJan.Smucr%40aimtecglobal.com%7C5548bb8b18 > be4725f6c208dd77b812f7%7Cb3811028ce6e4b01bcb0db419328ffc5%7C1%7C0%7C63 > 8798354779289408%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiO > iIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ%3D%3D%7C0%7C > %7C%7C&sdata=HN8MawfdbE2AlR2aFgcyPa5YEs%2F6mvQr6BjnCSeiNkE%3D&reserved > =0 Are there plans to adjust the console towards the previous user > experience, or can I somehow revert to the original one? > Thank you. > Jan > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@activemq.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@activemq.apache.org For further information, visit: https://activemq.apache.org/contact
