http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/16/verizon-unlimited-data-plans_n_1521967.html
It doesn't matter that you're grandfathered. You won't have unlimited by the time your next contract rolls around, from what I understand. However, I am curious. How much data do you use each month, exactly? I have 4GB per month and barely use 2GB of that. On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Daniel Clem <clem11...@gmail.com> wrote: > i knew they were bad, but didn't know they were bad. > > AT&T's and other GSM carriers maps does show our house as having medium > signal but my Sister on T mobile can barely make a call without dropping > it. I would like to find someone with AT&T to test it. But I don't know of > any. > > Plus I am "grandfathered into unlimited data” and I tether quite a bit. So > Any other carrier has to have unlimited at a decent price. Say less than 80 > a month for data. > > I have barely made it out of contract with this Motor Droid 2 (3rd > replacement) , hence why I and searching hard for a solid device. I can > make a case for the Edge no big deal. > > > Josh Leverette <coder...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Hmm. Ok. I use Verizon too, but I would switch to Straight Talk (uses >> AT&T's network) for this phone. Here's why this phone cannot possibly come >> to Verizon. >> >> With CDMA networks, the carrier has complete control over every phone >> that tries to connect to the network. They check the device ID and decide >> whether it is authorized to connect, then they compare the device ID to the >> service plan you've selected and decide whether your service plan allows >> that phone to be used. They claim that this is all for "quality control", >> and that's the reasoning they'll stick to. The reality for end users is >> that any phone they want to use on that network has to go through months of >> *very *expensive testing in the carrier's own labs and field personnel. >> With a GSM network like Straight Talk, you pop your SIM card in and go. >> Canonical would have to ship several Ubuntu Edge phones to Verizon, and >> then Verizon would have to eventually decide that they approve it. But >> wait, what if someone uses Sprint? or one of Japan's CDMA networks? They >> have to send handsets to each of these to each one to approve the phone for >> their network. So, for a 40,000 phone production run, they've just sent off >> between 10 and 100 of the devices to carriers *just for the chance* of >> being accepted. Oh, and since we're now making CDMA and GSM phones, the >> production costs are significantly higher now that we're no longer >> producing 40,000 of one design. We're now making 35,000 of one and *only >> 5,000* of the other. A 5,000 device run would not be affordable. >> >> As you said, what if we made it a GSM/CDMA combo phone? well, that means >> that the majority of your customers now pay for a CDMA antenna that they're >> never going to use. But, it also wouldn't be pioneering anything. The >> Motorola Razr M is a CDMA/GSM combo device with 4G LTE. You still wouldn't >> be able to jump to any carrier you can imagine, because of how restrictive >> CDMA networks are. >> >> Furthermore, Verizon (and any other CDMA carrier) would want *full* control >> of the phone. This is how they screwed the Galaxy Nexus for Verizon (the >> phone I currently have). My GNex is months behind the GSM GNex phones in >> terms of updates, because Verizon took over that, which went against >> everything Google and Verizon agreed to. Verizon also installed bloatware >> on the CDMA GNex. They made a pure phone like a Nexus device into a very >> dirty device. Canonical would have to give up everything that is noble >> about this campaign to get Verizon to let those phones to connect to their >> network. >> >> It cannot happen, and it will not happen. Verizon has great >> infrastructure, but their customer experience has been very unsatisfactory >> for me. >> >> Do no GSM carriers service your area? AT&T has really redoubled their >> infrastructure efforts over the last couple of years, from what I've seen. >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Daniel Clem <clem11...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Agreed. And here in USA the "Modern American Mentality” has taken over >>> and people don't realized that high quality products come at a price. They >>> are used to 2 year contracts that get them "latest hardware” at 200 to 300. >>> But this device being 3 times the power and quality, but not 3 times the >>> price goes over Kant's heads. >>> >>> I am very low income, but I can save up $830 in 3 to 4 weeks. But again, >>> I NEED Verizon because I, as many others also, live in a rural area. >>> Eventually we will have LTE, but not for 2 to 4 years. >>> >>> Since these won't be manufactured till months after the fund ends. >>> Requesting 1 or 2 thousand CDMA should be that hard. Or since this is >>> flagged as a "Open Device ” why not pioneer the first LTE capable Combo >>> phone? CDMA+GSM. Only using the one you need. So later if you wish you can >>> jump to any carrier you can imagine. Making it Truly Open. >>> >>> Just some thoughts. God Bless >>> >>> Josh Leverette <coder...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Stores and resellers were not purchasing from indiegogo yesterday. >>>> There might have been one or two, but that's simply not what happened. This >>>> whole campaign is all about individuals buying these phones. I don't want >>>> to see this campaign fail anymore than you do. People will either buy them >>>> at $830, or they won't. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Omar B. <estela...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >So implementing possibilities to "buy" a smartphone with less specs isn't >>>>> compatible with the goal of this campaign. >>>>> >>>>> A little less specs Not being compatible is your opinion. >>>>> >>>>> The only fact I see is that they set a goal and would much prefer for it >>>>> to be be reached. Am sure they have months or years planning it and >>>>> waiting for the right moment. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It's not so positive if the campaign gets stuck at like 10 or 13 million, >>>>> there's not much impact about that. >>>>> >>>>> Even with less specs the phone will be a top tier phone. But what really >>>>> makes the phone is not the hardware, but the software combination and >>>>> possibilities. So it will still do things that many others wont. Getting >>>>> ubuntu to more users and developers hands has always been a primary goal. >>>>> >>>>> Anyway many resellers got into the 600 promo, but that is over. There's >>>>> no deal or perk for them anymore, so they left. For Stores and resellers, >>>>> 40k limited time phones is not that much if you got them, but they don't >>>>> want to pay full price, because they need to make some returns, so they >>>>> need now perks that give them discounts for a higher quantity purchase. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>>>> Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net >>>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sincerely, >>>> Josh >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net >>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>> >>>> >> >> >> -- Sincerely, Josh
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