i knew they were bad, but didn't know they were bad. AT&T's and other GSM carriers maps does show our house as having medium signal but my Sister on T mobile can barely make a call without dropping it. I would like to find someone with AT&T to test it. But I don't know of any.
Plus I am "grandfathered into unlimited data” and I tether quite a bit. So Any other carrier has to have unlimited at a decent price. Say less than 80 a month for data. I have barely made it out of contract with this Motor Droid 2 (3rd replacement) , hence why I and searching hard for a solid device. I can make a case for the Edge no big deal. Josh Leverette <coder...@gmail.com> wrote: >Hmm. Ok. I use Verizon too, but I would switch to Straight Talk (uses >AT&T's network) for this phone. Here's why this phone cannot possibly >come >to Verizon. > >With CDMA networks, the carrier has complete control over every phone >that >tries to connect to the network. They check the device ID and decide >whether it is authorized to connect, then they compare the device ID to >the >service plan you've selected and decide whether your service plan >allows >that phone to be used. They claim that this is all for "quality >control", >and that's the reasoning they'll stick to. The reality for end users is >that any phone they want to use on that network has to go through >months of >*very *expensive testing in the carrier's own labs and field personnel. >With a GSM network like Straight Talk, you pop your SIM card in and go. >Canonical would have to ship several Ubuntu Edge phones to Verizon, and >then Verizon would have to eventually decide that they approve it. But >wait, what if someone uses Sprint? or one of Japan's CDMA networks? >They >have to send handsets to each of these to each one to approve the phone >for >their network. So, for a 40,000 phone production run, they've just sent >off >between 10 and 100 of the devices to carriers *just for the chance* of >being accepted. Oh, and since we're now making CDMA and GSM phones, the >production costs are significantly higher now that we're no longer >producing 40,000 of one design. We're now making 35,000 of one and >*only >5,000* of the other. A 5,000 device run would not be affordable. > >As you said, what if we made it a GSM/CDMA combo phone? well, that >means >that the majority of your customers now pay for a CDMA antenna that >they're >never going to use. But, it also wouldn't be pioneering anything. The >Motorola Razr M is a CDMA/GSM combo device with 4G LTE. You still >wouldn't >be able to jump to any carrier you can imagine, because of how >restrictive >CDMA networks are. > >Furthermore, Verizon (and any other CDMA carrier) would want *full* >control >of the phone. This is how they screwed the Galaxy Nexus for Verizon >(the >phone I currently have). My GNex is months behind the GSM GNex phones >in >terms of updates, because Verizon took over that, which went against >everything Google and Verizon agreed to. Verizon also installed >bloatware >on the CDMA GNex. They made a pure phone like a Nexus device into a >very >dirty device. Canonical would have to give up everything that is noble >about this campaign to get Verizon to let those phones to connect to >their >network. > >It cannot happen, and it will not happen. Verizon has great >infrastructure, >but their customer experience has been very unsatisfactory for me. > >Do no GSM carriers service your area? AT&T has really redoubled their >infrastructure efforts over the last couple of years, from what I've >seen. > > >On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Daniel Clem <clem11...@gmail.com> >wrote: > >> Agreed. And here in USA the "Modern American Mentality” has taken >over and >> people don't realized that high quality products come at a price. >They are >> used to 2 year contracts that get them "latest hardware” at 200 to >300. But >> this device being 3 times the power and quality, but not 3 times the >price >> goes over Kant's heads. >> >> I am very low income, but I can save up $830 in 3 to 4 weeks. But >again, I >> NEED Verizon because I, as many others also, live in a rural area. >> Eventually we will have LTE, but not for 2 to 4 years. >> >> Since these won't be manufactured till months after the fund ends. >> Requesting 1 or 2 thousand CDMA should be that hard. Or since this is >> flagged as a "Open Device ” why not pioneer the first LTE capable >Combo >> phone? CDMA+GSM. Only using the one you need. So later if you wish >you can >> jump to any carrier you can imagine. Making it Truly Open. >> >> Just some thoughts. God Bless >> >> Josh Leverette <coder...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Stores and resellers were not purchasing from indiegogo yesterday. >There >>> might have been one or two, but that's simply not what happened. >This whole >>> campaign is all about individuals buying these phones. I don't want >to see >>> this campaign fail anymore than you do. People will either buy them >at >>> $830, or they won't. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Omar B. <estela...@hotmail.com> >wrote: >>> >>>> >So implementing possibilities to "buy" a smartphone with less >specs isn't >>>> compatible with the goal of this campaign. >>>> >>>> A little less specs Not being compatible is your opinion. >>>> >>>> The only fact I see is that they set a goal and would much prefer >for it to be be reached. Am sure they have months or years planning it >and waiting for the right moment. >>>> >>>> >>>> It's not so positive if the campaign gets stuck at like 10 or 13 >million, there's not much impact about that. >>>> >>>> Even with less specs the phone will be a top tier phone. But what >really makes the phone is not the hardware, but the software >combination and possibilities. So it will still do things that many >others wont. Getting ubuntu to more users and developers hands has >always been a primary goal. >>>> >>>> Anyway many resellers got into the 600 promo, but that is over. >There's no deal or perk for them anymore, so they left. For Stores and >resellers, 40k limited time phones is not that much if you got them, >but they don't want to pay full price, because they need to make some >returns, so they need now perks that give them discounts for a higher >quantity purchase. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>>> Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net >>>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sincerely, >>> Josh >>> >>> -- >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>> >>> Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone >>> >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >>> > > >-- >Sincerely, > Josh
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