On Sat, Dec 21, 2024 at 9:40 AM Salz, Rich
<rsalz=40akamai....@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>
> > I asked what the authorization is under the IETF standardization process
> > for the (unclear and unusual) procedure that the chairs are following:
> > "Can the WG chairs please clarify which procedure from RFC 2026 (or from
> > RFCs updating RFC 2026) is being followed here?"
>
>
> It seems to me -- and judging by list traffic, everyone else -- that the 
> chairs are asking for which drafts and how to organize the call for adoption. 
>  (Yes, I know it's the holiday season and list traffic might be affected.) 
> What is the unclear and unusual process you believe the chairs are following?

In case my snark wasn't obvious enough (perhaps "yo dawg, I heard you
like calls for adoption so I put a call for adoption in your call for
adoption" would have gotten it across better) we already have a way to
decide what drafts to adopt: it's called a call for adoption. It's not
clear to me why needing any sort of consensus on which to do in order
is worth it, and indeed much of the discussion has ended up on the
specific drafts people want to see adopted, indistinguishable from
that in the actual calls.

There probably are good reasons to discuss these all on the table
together given the similar subject matters, but the way this has been
done is just weird and IMHO pointless. To the extent the goal was to
have a discussion about how we approach ciphersuite selection given
the factors that hasn't really happened (and IMHO should) because the
object level issue is just too tasty.

Sincerely,
Watson
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