I would like to thank the chairs in advance for all the hard and thankless work they just volunteered for. It is desperately needed and I truly appreciate it.
-Tim > -----Original Message----- > From: Sean Turner <s...@sn3rd.com> > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2024 8:31 AM > To: TLS List <tls@ietf.org> > Subject: [TLS] Changing WG Mail List Reputation > > Hello list, > > The TLS list is infamous in that it is regarded by some as [insert your > descriptive word; where the chairs have heard the following words used: > noxious, toxic, unwelcoming, and rude]. The chairs want to change this > reputation and we hope you do too. A big part of this is on the chairs to be > be > more proactive about moderating behavior that goes against IETF WG > procedures, code of conduct, etc. The chairs are also going to send a monthly > reminder, which is included below, that will serve to remind everyone from > those who joined just today to those who joined many, many years ago of the > policies and procedures that apply to IETF mailing lists. > > Monthly email reminder follows: > > --- > > Hello list, > > As a regular reminder, this list is governed by IETF’s Working Group > Procedures [BCP25], which also includes Anti-Harassment Procedures, and by > participating you agree to the Note Well [NW] and to follow the Code of > Conduct [CoC]. Thank you for contributing as part of the TLS Working Group. > > As moderators of this list, the chairs are charged with determining when > messages are “disruptive to the WG process”, phrase from RFC 3934, and, at a > minimum, the chairs consider the following to be disruptive: > • Unsolicited bulk e-mail (from RFC 3683) > • Discussion of subjects unrelated to IETF policy, meetings, activities, > or technical concerns (from RFC 3683) > • Unprofessional commentary, regardless of the general subject (from > RFC 3683) > • Repetition of arguments without providing substantive new > information > • Requesting an unreasonable amount of work to provide > information > > To elaborate on unprofessional commentary, the chairs believe that this also > includes uncivil commentary as defined by the IETF List Moderators that > includes threats of violence, personal attacks, and derogatory language; see > [Language]. > > RFC 3683 also includes “announcements of conferences, events, or activities > that are not sponsored or endorsed by the Internet Society or the IETF”. > Please contact the chairs if you wish to share these types of announcements, > but in general the chairs do not believe they are disruptive unless they are > excessive and lack relevance. > > Reminder that if at anytime you feel that if somebody is out of line you can > say so on list or directly to us (mailto:tls-cha...@ietf.org), the ADs > (mailto:sec- > a...@ietf.org), or the Ombudsteam (mailto:ombudst...@ietf.org). > > --- > > Obviously, if we receive significant feedback about any of the above, we can > revisit the message. > > Even though there are three of us, we are still not always immediately > available to respond and because of that we would like your help in keeping > the tone of the list professional and civil. Remember that if somebody else is > behaving badly please refrain from reciprocating. > > Cheers, > The Chairs > > [BCP25] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/bcp25/ > [NW] https://www.ietf.org/about/note-well/ > [CoC] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/bcp54/ > [Language] https://github.com/ietf/Moderators/blob/main/uncivil- > commentary.md#descriptions > _______________________________________________ > TLS mailing list -- tls@ietf.org > To unsubscribe send an email to tls-le...@ietf.org
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