Hear, hear! Thank for you sending this, Sean! On Fri, Oct 25, 2024, 08:53 Arnaud Taddei <arnaud.taddei= 40broadcom....@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> +1million > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 25 Oct 2024, at 18:00, Sean Turner <s...@sn3rd.com> wrote: > > > > Hello list, > > > > The TLS list is infamous in that it is regarded by some as [insert your > descriptive word; where the chairs have heard the following words used: > noxious, toxic, unwelcoming, and rude]. The chairs want to change this > reputation and we hope you do too. A big part of this is on the chairs to > be be more proactive about moderating behavior that goes against IETF WG > procedures, code of conduct, etc. The chairs are also going to send a > monthly reminder, which is included below, that will serve to remind > everyone from those who joined just today to those who joined many, many > years ago of the policies and procedures that apply to IETF mailing lists. > > > > Monthly email reminder follows: > > > > --- > > > > Hello list, > > > > As a regular reminder, this list is governed by IETF’s Working Group > Procedures [BCP25], which also includes Anti-Harassment Procedures, and by > participating you agree to the Note Well [NW] and to follow the Code of > Conduct [CoC]. Thank you for contributing as part of the TLS Working Group. > > > > As moderators of this list, the chairs are charged with determining when > messages are “disruptive to the WG process”, phrase from RFC 3934, and, at > a minimum, the chairs consider the following to be disruptive: > > • Unsolicited bulk e-mail (from RFC 3683) > > • Discussion of subjects unrelated to IETF policy, meetings, > activities, or technical concerns (from RFC 3683) > > • Unprofessional commentary, regardless of the general subject (from > RFC 3683) > > • Repetition of arguments without providing substantive new > information > > • Requesting an unreasonable amount of work to provide information > > > > To elaborate on unprofessional commentary, the chairs believe that this > also includes uncivil commentary as defined by the IETF List Moderators > that includes threats of violence, personal attacks, and derogatory > language; see [Language]. > > > > RFC 3683 also includes “announcements of conferences, events, or > activities that are not sponsored or endorsed by the Internet Society or > the IETF”. Please contact the chairs if you wish to share these types of > announcements, but in general the chairs do not believe they are disruptive > unless they are excessive and lack relevance. > > > > Reminder that if at anytime you feel that if somebody is out of line you > can say so on list or directly to us (mailto:tls-cha...@ietf.org), the > ADs (mailto:sec-...@ietf.org), or the Ombudsteam (mailto: > ombudst...@ietf.org). > > > > --- > > > > Obviously, if we receive significant feedback about any of the above, we > can revisit the message. > > > > Even though there are three of us, we are still not always immediately > available to respond and because of that we would like your help in keeping > the tone of the list professional and civil. Remember that if somebody else > is behaving badly please refrain from reciprocating. > > > > Cheers, > > The Chairs > > > > [BCP25] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/bcp25/ > > [NW] https://www.ietf.org/about/note-well/ > > [CoC] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/bcp54/ > > [Language] > https://github.com/ietf/Moderators/blob/main/uncivil-commentary.md#descriptions > > _______________________________________________ > > TLS mailing list -- tls@ietf.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to tls-le...@ietf.org > > -- > This electronic communication and the information and any files > transmitted > with it, or attached to it, are confidential and are intended solely for > the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed and may > contain > information that is confidential, legally privileged, protected by privacy > laws, or otherwise restricted from disclosure to anyone else. If you are > not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the > e-mail to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, > copying, distributing, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or copying of > this e-mail is strictly prohibited. If you received this e-mail in error, > please return the e-mail to the sender, delete it from your computer, and > destroy any printed copy of it. > _______________________________________________ > TLS mailing list -- tls@ietf.org > To unsubscribe send an email to tls-le...@ietf.org >
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