Thanks for this Sean.

On Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 6:31 AM Sean Turner <s...@sn3rd.com> wrote:

> Hello list,
>
> The TLS list is infamous in that it is regarded by some as [insert your
> descriptive word; where the chairs have heard the following words used:
> noxious, toxic, unwelcoming, and rude]. The chairs want to change this
> reputation and we hope you do too. A big part of this is on the chairs to
> be be more proactive about moderating behavior that goes against IETF WG
> procedures, code of conduct, etc. The chairs are also going to send a
> monthly reminder, which is included below, that will serve to remind
> everyone from those who joined just today to those who joined many, many
> years ago of the policies and procedures that apply to IETF mailing lists.
>
> Monthly email reminder follows:
>
> ---
>
> Hello list,
>
> As a regular reminder, this list is governed by IETF’s Working Group
> Procedures [BCP25], which also includes Anti-Harassment Procedures, and by
> participating you agree to the Note Well [NW] and to follow the Code of
> Conduct [CoC]. Thank you for contributing as part of the TLS Working Group.
>
> As moderators of this list, the chairs are charged with determining when
> messages are “disruptive to the WG process”, phrase from RFC 3934, and, at
> a minimum, the chairs consider the following to be disruptive:
>         • Unsolicited bulk e-mail (from RFC 3683)
>         • Discussion of subjects unrelated to IETF policy, meetings,
> activities, or technical concerns (from RFC 3683)
>         • Unprofessional commentary, regardless of the general subject
> (from RFC 3683)
>         • Repetition of arguments without providing substantive new
> information
>         • Requesting an unreasonable amount of work to provide information
>
> To elaborate on unprofessional commentary, the chairs believe that this
> also includes uncivil commentary as defined by the IETF List Moderators
> that includes threats of violence, personal attacks, and derogatory
> language; see [Language].
>
> RFC 3683 also includes “announcements of conferences, events, or
> activities that are not sponsored or endorsed by the Internet Society or
> the IETF”. Please contact the chairs if you wish to share these types of
> announcements, but in general the chairs do not believe they are disruptive
> unless they are excessive and lack relevance.
>
> Reminder that if at anytime you feel that if somebody is out of line you
> can say so on list or directly to us (mailto:tls-cha...@ietf.org), the
> ADs (mailto:sec-...@ietf.org), or the Ombudsteam (mailto:
> ombudst...@ietf.org).
>
> ---
>
> Obviously, if we receive significant feedback about any of the above, we
> can revisit the message.
>
> Even though there are three of us, we are still not always immediately
> available to respond and because of that we would like your help in keeping
> the tone of the list professional and civil. Remember that if somebody else
> is behaving badly please refrain from reciprocating.
>
> Cheers,
> The Chairs
>
> [BCP25] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/bcp25/
> [NW] https://www.ietf.org/about/note-well/
> [CoC] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/bcp54/
> [Language]
> https://github.com/ietf/Moderators/blob/main/uncivil-commentary.md#descriptions
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