I've updated migratetags with my latest updates and extracted the "matcher" logic out to its own class to make it easier to adjust per job.
http://crosswire.org/svn/sword-tools/trunk/migratetags/ On 4/14/19 7:41 AM, Tobias Klein wrote: > > Thanks, Troy! I'll have a look. > > Best regards, > Tobias > > On 13.04.19 17:34, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: >> The code I use for mapping across translations is in our tools repo >> here. It does a reasonable job on same language literal Bibles and >> isolates to word alignment algorithm to a single method so it can be >> adjusted without understanding all the other code in there. >> >> http://crosswire.org/svn/sword-tools/trunk/migratetags/ >> >> I think I have a newer matching algorithm I've used for adding >> strongs to the Tyndale Greek New Testament and to NA28, which I still >> need to check in, but the shell to do the work is generally there. >> I'll try to checkin any updates soon. >> >> For what it's worth, >> >> Troy >> >> >> >> On April 13, 2019 6:12:28 AM MST, Jamie <a...@critos.co.uk> wrote: >> >> David H is correct that David Instone Brewer has worked on this >> kind of thing. I won’t attempt to characterise how things stand >> at present, nor the approach he has adopted, since I may be out >> of date, and may end up misrepresenting things. I did notice >> this thread, though, and have drawn it to his attention, so I >> imagine he’ll be in touch (he’s not answering my emails currently >> so I assume he may be out for the day). >> >> >> >> Jamie >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:*David Haslam [mailto:dfh...@protonmail.com] >> *Sent:* 13 April 2019 13:37 >> *To:* SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum >> <sword-devel@crosswire.org> >> *Subject:* Re: [sword-devel] Mapping Strongs numbers to >> translations that do not come with Strongs support >> >> >> >> Further stuff written by memory from my hospital bed: >> >> >> >> I myself developed a worksheet based editing environment so that >> Vince LaRue has been able to start the big task of manually >> adding Strong’s to the Spanish RV1865 (modern orthography) Source >> Text. >> >> >> >> The WIP is in a shared folder in my Box account. >> >> >> >> The pre-&-postprocessing uses bespoke TextPipe filters. >> >> >> >> But there’s one more gain in the worksheet WPL environment. >> >> >> >> Providing the WPL worksheet includes a column with line numbers, >> the text can be sorted on the Word column. >> >> >> >> This facilitated adding Strong’s to multiple instances of the >> same Spanish word (ignoring context). The original textual order >> can be restored by a sort on the line numbers column. >> >> >> >> Much more detail is involved in how (eg) punctuation is dealt >> with and preserved. >> >> >> >> Even so, the trial run on 2JN was a success and Vince has since >> done MAT 1-11 or more when I last looked at the progress. >> >> >> >> Aside: The same environment also facilitated adding markup for >> \wj_...\wj* >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> >> >> David >> >> >> >> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 13:16, ref...@gmx.net >> <mailto:ref...@gmx.net> <ref...@gmx.net <mailto:ref...@gmx.net>> >> wrote: >> >> I have been thinking about this for years but not done much yet. >> >> I think there are a bunch of steps which could make this a >> machine driven process >> >> 1) use verse,mapping from KJV or other already tagged texts >> (Synodal) and drop on each verse the relevant numbers >> >> 2) use names of places and people to tag those first >> >> 3) use dictionaries to align further >> >> 4) check by hand, but use any realignment to further inform >> not yet checked verses >> >> >> Sent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and >> weird autocorrects. >> >> >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Mapping Strongs numbers to >> translations that do not come with Strongs support >> From: Michael H >> To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum >> CC: >> >> >> The Unfolding Word Team is using Autographa for its >> "alignment" process (which means adding strongs numbers, >> but they also are working on fixing stray words into a >> common (UnfoldingWord) versification across languages, if >> I understand chat room babble. >> >> https://forum.ccbt.bible/t/gl-ugnt-alignment-process/101 >> >> http://www.autographa.com/about/ >> >> >> >> On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 6:52 AM Tobias Klein >> <cont...@tklein.info <mailto:cont...@tklein.info>> wrote: >> >> Hi David, >> >> Cool! Thanks for the hint! Do you happen to know >> whether that software used by the STEP team is open >> source? >> >> Best regards, >> Tobias >> >> On 13.04.19 13:00, David Haslam wrote: >> >> This was done already by the Tyndale STEP team >> for adding Strong’s Numbers to the ESV. >> >> >> >> They used bespoke software followed by manual >> adjustments. >> >> >> >> Ask David Instone-Brewer for details. >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> >> >> David >> >> >> >> Sent from ProtonMail Mobile >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 11:33, Tobias Klein >> <cont...@tklein.info >> <mailto:cont...@tklein.info>> wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I have an idea that I would like to run by >> you guys. >> >> Would it be possible to automatically map >> Strongs numbers to >> translations that do not come with Strongs >> support? >> >> The approach would be like this: >> - Take a translation that comes with Strongs >> numbers >> - Map each word (and Strongs number) to a >> corresponding word in the >> target translation, by using a regular dictionary >> >> There may be some validation / manual >> checking needed when there is not >> a clear match between a word in the source >> translation and the target >> translation. >> Furthermore, this would probably only work >> with pairs of translations >> that are both aiming to be literal. In that >> case the order of words >> would be very similar and would increase >> chances of mapping >> words/Strongs correctly. >> >> What do you think? >> I'd be very happy to see Strongs mapped to >> German translations >> specifically. But it could technically even >> work for English/English >> translation mapping. >> >> Have a nice weekend! >> >> Best regards, >> Tobias >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sword-devel mailing list: >> sword-devel@crosswire.org >> <mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org> >> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your >> settings at above page >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org >> <mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org> >> >> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >> >> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at >> above page >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org >> <mailto:sword-devel@crosswire.org> >> http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >> Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at >> above page >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. 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