Thanks, Troy! I'll have a look.
Best regards,
Tobias
On 13.04.19 17:34, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
The code I use for mapping across translations is in our tools repo
here. It does a reasonable job on same language literal Bibles and
isolates to word alignment algorithm to a single method so it can be
adjusted without understanding all the other code in there.
http://crosswire.org/svn/sword-tools/trunk/migratetags/
I think I have a newer matching algorithm I've used for adding strongs
to the Tyndale Greek New Testament and to NA28, which I still need to
check in, but the shell to do the work is generally there. I'll try to
checkin any updates soon.
For what it's worth,
Troy
On April 13, 2019 6:12:28 AM MST, Jamie <a...@critos.co.uk> wrote:
David H is correct that David Instone Brewer has worked on this
kind of thing. I won’t attempt to characterise how things stand
at present, nor the approach he has adopted, since I may be out of
date, and may end up misrepresenting things. I did notice this
thread, though, and have drawn it to his attention, so I imagine
he’ll be in touch (he’s not answering my emails currently so I
assume he may be out for the day).
Jamie
*From:*David Haslam [mailto:dfh...@protonmail.com]
*Sent:* 13 April 2019 13:37
*To:* SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum
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*Subject:* Re: [sword-devel] Mapping Strongs numbers to
translations that do not come with Strongs support
Further stuff written by memory from my hospital bed:
I myself developed a worksheet based editing environment so that
Vince LaRue has been able to start the big task of manually adding
Strong’s to the Spanish RV1865 (modern orthography) Source Text.
The WIP is in a shared folder in my Box account.
The pre-&-postprocessing uses bespoke TextPipe filters.
But there’s one more gain in the worksheet WPL environment.
Providing the WPL worksheet includes a column with line numbers,
the text can be sorted on the Word column.
This facilitated adding Strong’s to multiple instances of the same
Spanish word (ignoring context). The original textual order can be
restored by a sort on the line numbers column.
Much more detail is involved in how (eg) punctuation is dealt with
and preserved.
Even so, the trial run on 2JN was a success and Vince has since
done MAT 1-11 or more when I last looked at the progress.
Aside: The same environment also facilitated adding markup for
\wj_...\wj*
Best regards,
David
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On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 13:16, ref...@gmx.net
<mailto:ref...@gmx.net> <ref...@gmx.net <mailto:ref...@gmx.net>>
wrote:
I have been thinking about this for years but not done much yet.
I think there are a bunch of steps which could make this a
machine driven process
1) use verse,mapping from KJV or other already tagged texts
(Synodal) and drop on each verse the relevant numbers
2) use names of places and people to tag those first
3) use dictionaries to align further
4) check by hand, but use any realignment to further inform
not yet checked verses
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autocorrects.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Mapping Strongs numbers to
translations that do not come with Strongs support
From: Michael H
To: SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum
CC:
The Unfolding Word Team is using Autographa for its
"alignment" process (which means adding strongs numbers,
but they also are working on fixing stray words into a
common (UnfoldingWord) versification across languages, if
I understand chat room babble.
https://forum.ccbt.bible/t/gl-ugnt-alignment-process/101
http://www.autographa.com/about/
On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 6:52 AM Tobias Klein
<cont...@tklein.info <mailto:cont...@tklein.info>> wrote:
Hi David,
Cool! Thanks for the hint! Do you happen to know
whether that software used by the STEP team is open
source?
Best regards,
Tobias
On 13.04.19 13:00, David Haslam wrote:
This was done already by the Tyndale STEP team for
adding Strong’s Numbers to the ESV.
They used bespoke software followed by manual
adjustments.
Ask David Instone-Brewer for details.
Best regards,
David
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On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 11:33, Tobias Klein
<cont...@tklein.info <mailto:cont...@tklein.info>>
wrote:
Hi,
I have an idea that I would like to run by you
guys.
Would it be possible to automatically map
Strongs numbers to
translations that do not come with Strongs
support?
The approach would be like this:
- Take a translation that comes with Strongs
numbers
- Map each word (and Strongs number) to a
corresponding word in the
target translation, by using a regular dictionary
There may be some validation / manual checking
needed when there is not
a clear match between a word in the source
translation and the target
translation.
Furthermore, this would probably only work
with pairs of translations
that are both aiming to be literal. In that
case the order of words
would be very similar and would increase
chances of mapping
words/Strongs correctly.
What do you think?
I'd be very happy to see Strongs mapped to
German translations
specifically. But it could technically even
work for English/English
translation mapping.
Have a nice weekend!
Best regards,
Tobias
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