Reaper supports up to 128 channel tracks and has extensive routing options and matrix interfaces to connect and even choose on muting of channels based on connectivity status. The user can select and change which plugin output goes into which input on the next plugin and also group plugins in subchains. I would say that it's the best I've ever seen. I'm working extensively with ambisonics and channel-based formats and many times in hybrid projects needed for bass management and center channel for theatrical features, with Reaper I can master and export for various formats easily using the facilities described here.
*Pan Athen* SoundFellas <https://soundfellas.com/>, *MediaFlake Ltd <http://mediaflake.com/>* Digital Media Services, Content, and Tools On Thu, Oct 3, 2024 at 9:48 PM Fons Adriaensen <f...@linuxaudio.org> wrote: > On Thu, Oct 03, 2024 at 05:58:57PM +0200, Robin Gareus wrote: > > > Ardour has not required in-place processing since v6 around 5 years ago. > > Good to know. > > > Yet when possible, a given plugin standards support it, the extra copy > step > > can be avoided and the same buffer pointer is passed for input and > output. > > What 'extra copy step' ? There isn't any. if you have A->B, the pointer to > B's input can be the same as the one to A's output. No copy is necessary. > It's only the requirement of being 'in-place-safe' that requires extra > copies in some cases. > > > * It doesn't avoid copies nor optimise anything > > > > less memory is touched, so caches can be used more effectively. This also > > leads to faster context switches. If you have a few hundred tracks with a > > couple of plugins on each, things can add up quickly. > > With typical period sizes we are talking about very small buffers. And I'd > expect a chain of plugins in the same strip to not require context > switching. > > > As for the issue at hand. The IEM (VST3) plugins run just fine in Ardour > > without in-place processing. For the current ambdec plugins it is LADSPA > > that mandates in-place, isn't it? > > No, LADPSA never required this, only Ardour did. Which did complicate > some of the simple Ambisonic related plugins. LADSPA just allows a plugin > to declare that it is not 'in-place-safe'. > > Another 'less than useful' requirement is the one that a plugin process > should be callable with an arbitrary number of samples, down to one. > > * It doesn't make sense for anything supposed to be 'sample accurate' > because most plugins will do some parameter smoothing anyway to avoid > zipper noise. > > * It make optimising the process code near impossible in almost all > cases. > > Ciao, > > -- > FA > > > _______________________________________________ > Sursound mailing list > Sursound@music.vt.edu > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/private/sursound/attachments/20241003/4066fd8c/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe here, edit account or options, view archives and so on.