Hi
Key stroke (key bindings) are very useful. particularly on lap tops although 
not so important on desktops where a mouse works well.
The biggest problems we have with key bindings is twofold, the number with 
duplicate functions and the use of non USA keyboards. Check through the help 
file for the current key bindings for those that are already in use before 
commiting new ones
 
Barry Gerdes
Beaumont Hills Observatory
S 33' 41' 44"    E 150' 56' 32"
 




From: edtak...@cox.net
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 20:46:55 -0400
To: stellarium-pubdevel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [Stellarium-pubdevel] Re 2: New Idea: DSO viewing options


I should have added that keystroke equivalents give both 
   ease of learning for the beginner via the menus, and 
   good (perhaps the best possible) facile and fine-tuned control for the 
experienced users and astronomers.
Ed.
PS:  Just updated my notes at takken.us/stellarium.  Hopefully they are more 
readable now.




Hi Tom,
It is the keystroke equivalents that are magic.
The menus after a while are just a help display.
Sub-menus can be used to make things fit on a small display.
Ed


On Mar 19, 2012, at 5:38 PM, Thomas Morris wrote:


Hi Ed,



I'm not convinced that replacing the nebula sliders with a drop-down

menu would be more intuitive although I'm no expert on GUI design.

Bear in mind that non-numerical information needs translations unless

you use icons, potentially causing layout problems. Also drop-down

menus wouldn't fit on a small screen (e.g. smartphone).



Thanks,

Thomas



On 19 March 2012 21:14,  <edtak...@cox.net> wrote:


Hi Thomas and Brian,





I think the way to do this one, as well as make the user interface both more


facile and intuitive, is with drop-down menus.


I put a draft of my idea at  takken.us/stellarium, but need to do more to


explain it.


I suggest that the present slide bars are an encumbrance for the user.





Ed Takken




















On Mar 19, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Thomas Morris wrote:





Hi Brian,





Perhaps this could be implemented as a plug-in? ("extended DSO


controls" or something like that). Personally I would like some


extended controls particularly for making full use of the new NGC data


catalogue. (Galaxy display based on surface brightness for example,


which would certainly be useful for objects at low altitude.)





Thanks,


Thomas





On 19 March 2012 17:03, Bogdan Marinov <daggers...@gmail.com> wrote:





On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 1:48 AM, bdwashbu <bdwas...@gmail.com> wrote:





Cool!








I have a prototype image here:





http://www.flickr.com/photos/81471534@N00/6848489598/lightbox/








Oh, my, more interface clutter. While users have requested a way to





select which categories of DSOs are displayed, I think that a separate





slider for each is overkill.








Also, a comment on a previous question of yours:








On 18 March 2012 14:15, bdwashbu <bdwas...@gmail.com> wrote:





I also think that the sliders should be ticked and a label show their





current value, because I'm not even sure what their value currently





represents. (I assume apparent magnitude)








The sliders are deliberately unitless and don't represent apparent





magnitude. Instead, they control the number of objects shown on the





screen with a somewhat unclear formula which includes apparent





magnitude and dynamic eye adaptation.








Please also have in mind that one of the reasons Stellarium is popular





with educators and people who are total beginners in astronomy is the





simplicity of its interface. New features should be carefully





designed. Just slapping hack over hack as has been the tendency





recently won't lead to anything good. We already kicked out the





planetarium users, let's not alienate more groups.








Bogdan








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