I should have added that keystroke equivalents give both 
   ease of learning for the beginner via the menus, and 
   good (perhaps the best possible) facile and fine-tuned control for the 
experienced users and astronomers.
Ed.
PS:  Just updated my notes at takken.us/stellarium.  Hopefully they are more 
readable now.


> Hi Tom,
> It is the keystroke equivalents that are magic.
> The menus after a while are just a help display.
> Sub-menus can be used to make things fit on a small display.
> Ed
> 
> 
> On Mar 19, 2012, at 5:38 PM, Thomas Morris wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ed,
>> 
>> I'm not convinced that replacing the nebula sliders with a drop-down
>> menu would be more intuitive although I'm no expert on GUI design.
>> Bear in mind that non-numerical information needs translations unless
>> you use icons, potentially causing layout problems. Also drop-down
>> menus wouldn't fit on a small screen (e.g. smartphone).
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Thomas
>> 
>> On 19 March 2012 21:14,  <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Hi Thomas and Brian,
>>> 
>>> I think the way to do this one, as well as make the user interface both more
>>> facile and intuitive, is with drop-down menus.
>>> I put a draft of my idea at  takken.us/stellarium, but need to do more to
>>> explain it.
>>> I suggest that the present slide bars are an encumbrance for the user.
>>> 
>>> Ed Takken
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Thomas Morris wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Brian,
>>> 
>>> Perhaps this could be implemented as a plug-in? ("extended DSO
>>> controls" or something like that). Personally I would like some
>>> extended controls particularly for making full use of the new NGC data
>>> catalogue. (Galaxy display based on surface brightness for example,
>>> which would certainly be useful for objects at low altitude.)
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Thomas
>>> 
>>> On 19 March 2012 17:03, Bogdan Marinov <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 1:48 AM, bdwashbu <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Cool!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have a prototype image here:
>>> 
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/81471534@N00/6848489598/lightbox/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Oh, my, more interface clutter. While users have requested a way to
>>> 
>>> select which categories of DSOs are displayed, I think that a separate
>>> 
>>> slider for each is overkill.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Also, a comment on a previous question of yours:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 18 March 2012 14:15, bdwashbu <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I also think that the sliders should be ticked and a label show their
>>> 
>>> current value, because I'm not even sure what their value currently
>>> 
>>> represents. (I assume apparent magnitude)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The sliders are deliberately unitless and don't represent apparent
>>> 
>>> magnitude. Instead, they control the number of objects shown on the
>>> 
>>> screen with a somewhat unclear formula which includes apparent
>>> 
>>> magnitude and dynamic eye adaptation.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Please also have in mind that one of the reasons Stellarium is popular
>>> 
>>> with educators and people who are total beginners in astronomy is the
>>> 
>>> simplicity of its interface. New features should be carefully
>>> 
>>> designed. Just slapping hack over hack as has been the tendency
>>> 
>>> recently won't lead to anything good. We already kicked out the
>>> 
>>> planetarium users, let's not alienate more groups.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Bogdan
>>> 
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