I'm suggesting no advanced user section and no plugin GUI.
Seems to me that there is a better way to do this and more.
Link to notes sent a few minutes ago with same "From: Ed Takken"
(Sorry if my notes are a bit short and inadequate.  Hope to improve them soon.)
Ed





On Mar 19, 2012, at 3:02 PM, Chiraag Juvekar wrote:

> I think the ideal way ahead would be to add an advanced user section.
> Something like a hidden interface that is folded by default.
> Someone who really needs the extra interface can unfold it and click the 
> additional button.
> Perhaps like the under the hood section on chrome.
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 12:24 AM, bdwashbu <[email protected]> wrote:
> So going forward, it sounds like the options are:
> 1.) Change the main GUI and NebulaMgr/Nebula code (no)
> 2.) Add a plugin GUI and change the NebulaMgr/Nebula code
> 3.) Add a plugin duplicating the NebulaMgr/Nebula code
> 4.) Adjust the plugin code interface.  Would still have to change nebulaMgr 
> to it allow it to be plugged into.  
> 
> Sound about right?
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 1:29 PM, Bogdan Marinov <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 8:13 PM, bdwashbu <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Bogdan - thanks for the input.  I suspected there was a reason this feature
> > didn't exist.  As the new guy, I never meant to disrespect the current GUI
> > philosophies or the work you've done.  What you guys have already created is
> > awesome!  I don't want to make it worse.
> >
> > A plugin sounds like a good approach.  I will investigate.  I surely never
> > meant to hack anything together, and I definitely haven't committed
> > anything.  I just need a little direction from management (if there is such
> > a thing?).
> 
> Well, most of the work on that part of the interface has been done by
> Fabien, Stellarium's original author, who is mostly absent at the
> moment. It is debatable how well it works/is implemented. :) "Fuzzy"
> things like that are good for beginners, but amateur astronomers want
> more control.
> 
> Otherwise, yes, it's nice to have in mind that Stellarium is used for
> several different purposes by several different groups of people with
> different requirements and expectations. We have a bit of a "Jack of
> all trades, master of none" situation going on. We are also trying to
> make our own niche, otherwise we will be just re-inventing someone
> else's wheel.
> 
> As for the plug-in, I don't recommend it. Anything like this will
> require changes to the core code (NebulaMgr, etc) to provide the
> functionality behind the GUI. A plug-in implementing such a feature
> will have to duplicate the whole DSO engine. You can make only the
> interface as a plug-in, though this doesn't make much sense to me.
> Have a look at the way plug-ins work in general and the existing
> plug-ins that have their own interfaces and tell me what you think.
> 
> As for the management, no, there is not much of a hard structure,
> which is one of the reasons the project is in its current state. There
> is a loose chain of seniority/experience, but we try to make decisions
> with discussion and consensus.
> 
> Regards,
> Bogdan Marinov
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