> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jack Gostl
> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 5:11 AM
> > You didn't think there was a person at the other end of the
> > subscribe/unsubscribe interface who manually processed things
> did you ? :)
>
> No... but if you aren't going to qualify people who come onto the list,
> then what's the difference between an open list and a closed list? I
> assumed it was something like Majordomo where at the very least you want
> to have a moderator approve new subscriptions.
>
> I've never seen much point to closed lists with tons of memeber.
>

In your definition, a "closed list" is one that requires subscriptions in
order to post? My definition of a closed list is one where the list owner
(a person, or a group of people) has to approve membership, only members
can post, and often the archives are for members only. This might reuire
the prospective member to fill out a form, verifying his interest and intent
to join the list.

I think a "subscribers only" list, which allows only subscribers to post
messages is a good idea. It won't keep all the spammers and angry users
away, but it will stave off many of them by incearsing the barrier to
entry. Maybe they'd even have to answer "yes" to a two line sentence
describing the purpose of the list.

Still, even in its present form, the SA list manages to stay on-topic
and relatively free of spam and flames.

I think it would be interesting to place SA ahead of many/most
mailing lists, on the submittal side, and have it bounce messages
into a moderator's mail box if they look like spam. Additional score
weightings could be added to taste (SHOUTING and prof*nity.) Hopefully,
this wouldn't overly increase the admin. load on the moderator/owner,
but would improve the list's content. (I'm on some GNU-related development
lists that sometimes have more spam [GNU utils, Glibc come to mind] than
on-topic
content. Of course, filtering SA submittals is problematic,
but since folks aren't supposed to post literal copies of spam on this
list anyway, bouncing those to the moderator/owner for a quick perusal
wouldn't be so bad anyway (assuming the moderator was willing).




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