[web2py:14934] Re: future of T2 and T3 (ERRATA)

2009-01-14 Thread Paul Eden
can ship by default with T2 as an installed > application/plugin like 'admin' and 'welcome' does. > > Kind regards, > Markus > > -- Best Regards, Paul Eden "...and a little looking out for the other guy too." - Mr. Smith --~--~-~--~~

[web2py:14973] Re: Lots of new features in trunk, please test

2009-01-14 Thread Paul Eden
6:04 pm, mdipierro wrote: > > > > > > Please TEST TEST TEST > > > > > I get this appended to each row in my T2 forms unless they have > > > already specified their own table.name.comment: > > > None > > > > > F > > >

[web2py:15559] Re: how to import from a 'higher' directory

2009-01-28 Thread Paul Eden
there must be a more elegant way. can anyone help me out of > my ignorance please. > > > -- Best Regards, Paul Eden "...and a little looking out for the other guy too." - Mr. Smith --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you

[web2py:15560] Re: how to import from a 'higher' directory

2009-01-28 Thread Paul Eden
This version actually works. import os import sys up=os.path.dirname sys.path.append(up(up(up((os.path.abspath(__file__)) from gluon.sql import drivers Sorry, I didn't test the last post. Paul On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 6:27 AM, Paul Eden wrote: > Here's a slightly easier wa

[web2py:15568] Re: how to import from a 'higher' directory

2009-01-28 Thread Paul Eden
aa(aa(os.path.abspath(__file__) from gluon.sql import drivers Paul On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 7:10 AM, Timothy Farrell wrote: > > Note to those unfamiliar: > > up() is a web2py function, not a Python function. It will only work in > models and controllers. > > -tim > > P

[web2py:15570] Re: how to import from a 'higher' directory

2009-01-28 Thread Paul Eden
actually normally in > the execute environment. I got ahead of myself. It looks like this. > > def up(path): >return os.path.dirname(os.path.normpath(path)) > > Sorry for any confusion. > > -tim > > Paul Eden wrote: > > Very interesting! I didn't know th

[web2py:15591] Re: bad news and good news

2009-01-28 Thread Paul Eden
a > bigger > > > number of fans get the chance to speak !... > > > > > I have been playing around with web2py for a couple of weeks and I > believe > > > that it is going in the right direction... as it has the pros of other > > > frameworks altogether..

[web2py:15760] Re: Google gears ?

2009-02-02 Thread Paul Eden
ode.google.com/apis/gears/tools.html#gears_init > http://browserplus.yahoo.com/developer/web/code/introduction/ > http://www.adobe.com/products/air/tools/sdk/ > > -tim > > Paul Eden wrote: > > Wouldn't it be possible to include the javascript necessary to use the > > plugin (

[web2py:15755] Re: new web site?

2009-02-02 Thread Paul Eden
791x312! Reduce it down to what > > you need so you're not loading a picture that's a 10th of a megabyte and > > navigationally confusing. > > > > Other than that. Good work. I like the more modern style of it. > > good. This is taking more time than working

[web2py:15771] Re: Google gears ?

2009-02-02 Thread Paul Eden
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:28 AM, mdipierro wrote: > > What do you mean by off-line? what specifically do you want to do? > > Preface: I don't know the internals of Gears or Browserplus, etc. To my knowledge they are browser plugins with javascript interfaces that allow you seemlessly interact wit

[web2py:15746] Re: PEP 8 (Style Guide for Python Code) Compliance

2009-02-02 Thread Paul Eden
s" section. > > [1] http://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0008/ > > > > -- Best Regards, Paul Eden "...and a little looking out for the other guy too." - Mr. Smith --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subs

[web2py:15772] Re: PEP 8 (Style Guide for Python Code) Compliance

2009-02-02 Thread Paul Eden
Wow! Thanks. On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:24 AM, mdipierro wrote: > > fantastic. web2py will be pep compliant tomorrow! > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py Web Framework" group. To post to this

[web2py:15758] Re: Google gears ?

2009-02-02 Thread Paul Eden
; Sebastian E. Ovide wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> is there any plans to include google gears into web2py ? (or is >> already part of T2?) >> >> thanks >> >> > > > -- > Timothy Farrell > Computer Guy > Statewide General Insurance Agency (

[web2py:16283] Re: Web2py T2 T3

2009-02-13 Thread Paul Eden
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 7:09 AM, annet wrote: > Another question: when I expose user there are four buttons: admin, > request, session and response, which when you click on them display > information I don't wish to expose to the visitor. How do I get rid of > them and what is their function? Wh

[web2py:16416] Re: Help with PyCon internationalization

2009-02-16 Thread Paul Eden
I write and speak Brazilian Portuguese but not natively. - I lived in Brazil for 2 years. If there is not a native speaker that can translate to Portuguese, I can do that. Paul Eden On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 1:29 PM, mdipierro wrote: > > Do you speak a language other than english? >

[web2py:16886] Re: IIS6+web2py+MSSQL

2009-02-24 Thread Paul Eden
ad the other IIS related threads so my > gut tells me there are not a lot of people using web2py with IIS.  But > maybe I'm wrong. > > Thanks, > -KIRBY > > > > > -- Best Regards, Paul Eden "...and a little looking out for the other guy too." - Mr

[web2py:16911] Re: IIS6+web2py+MSSQL

2009-02-25 Thread Paul Eden
+1 on that! Paul On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 6:50 AM, mdipierro wrote: > > Please, if you succeed in this (and I am sure you will) send us some > instructions on how to reproduce it. > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[web2py:16918] Re: Critical point in web2py

2009-02-25 Thread Paul Eden
+1 on a centralized place for documentation. I'm undecided on if we should use trac or web2py for this though. - Trac is a great tool and it's already implemented which are pluses for it, but using the framework shows a lot of confidence in it. - Doesn't Django use Trac? Paul On Wed, Feb 25, 20

[web2py:16952] Re: Critical point in web2py

2009-02-25 Thread Paul Eden
+1. With a more intuitive URL I think that would work wonderfully. It would also generate new features back into the framework based on need. Paul On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Efe wrote: > > I think a documentation wiki based on T3, that is _already_ put up by > Massimo on appengine is goo

[web2py:17007] Re: Critical point in web2py

2009-02-26 Thread Paul Eden
What does everyone thing about MoinMoin ? Python.org uses it (http://wiki.python.org/moin/). The benefit is that it runs on python. That's the only one that I have setup and used before. It was fine, but I don't have experience with others. Does anyone know of a great wiki?

[web2py:17019] Re: Source repository confusion

2009-02-26 Thread Paul Eden
+1. If we can't readily automate pushing commits to svn I vote for dropping it so that Massimo has one less thing to worry about. Paul On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 2:44 PM, mdipierro wrote: > > I agree. SVN is a big pail for me. > > On Feb 26, 3:22 pm, Fran wrote: > > I would personally suggest ki

[web2py:17062] Re: Get a certificate in Web2py!

2009-02-27 Thread Paul Eden
That looks great! It's too bad my company's training budget is already exhausted for this year (mostly due to pycon ;-) ). Paul On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:09 PM, mdipierro wrote: > > http://ipdweb.cs.depaul.edu/wdp/Prog_WDP.htm > > > -- Best Regards, Paul Eden &qu

[web2py:17063] Re: Critical point in web2py

2009-02-27 Thread Paul Eden
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:53 AM, chris p wrote: > > I think if you treat the documentation as a built deliverable with > reST source files, and handle contributions, revisions, etc through > source control. This makes it dead-simple to couple doc revisions with > the web2py source itself, somethi

[web2py:17080] Re: IIS6+web2py+MSSQL

2009-02-27 Thread Paul Eden
; local URL is: > > > > > > >>>>http://localhost/web2py/ > > > > > > >>>> To remove the site and uninstall the ISAPI extension from IIS, > > > > >>>> execute > > > > >>>> the following command l

[web2py:17087] Re: Critical point in web2py

2009-02-27 Thread Paul Eden
nk we need to keep >> the wiki to recipies so as not to confuse new users as to where to >> look for the greatest information. I know I found having the draft >> manual, alter ego, cookbook, source code etc. to look at for answers >> quite confusing (though more is better than

[web2py:17114] Re: Critical point in web2py

2009-02-27 Thread Paul Eden
I think that would work, but I was wondering if it might be easier to just have some type of google custom search that included both the sphinx site and the wiki as sources. Is that feasible? desired? Paul On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Yarko Tymciurak wrote: > > Having said that - Massimo c

[web2py:17116] Re: Critical point in web2py

2009-02-27 Thread Paul Eden
Sphinx is cool, but looking at the new wiki, I think it is pretty far already (now with reST, revisions, etc). Adding export to latex or pdf would be relatively simple to do from reST sources since docutils already converts from reST to these formats. We definitely need a wiki (or some other type

[web2py:17154] Re: Critical point in web2py

2009-02-28 Thread Paul Eden
rs, and that is good). > > We have had this discussion enough times. Wiki away. I will contribute > to the wiki too at times. > > Let me know if you're interested in the process of creating a community > written book; in that I would be more interested. > > Regards, &

[web2py:17257] Re: Documentation - Scaffold application

2009-03-01 Thread Paul Eden
+1 on that. That is one feature of django that I miss in web2py. Alexandre, Obriagdo pela applicacao tambem! Paul On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 1:06 AM, Alexandre Miguel de Andrade Souza < alexandrema...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I think some way to import database models too, creating models from > exis

[web2py:17316] Re: An improved Ticketing system

2009-03-02 Thread Paul Eden
This gives the ability to: - own the data without giving it to google (privacy) - track web applications that are not on the public internet - anything else? Paul On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 3:40 AM, AchipA wrote: > > Just out of curiosity, what additional functionality would this mean > to what for

[web2py:17319] Re: An improved Ticketing system

2009-03-02 Thread Paul Eden
gt; Massimo > > On Mar 2, 6:59 am, Paul Eden wrote: > > This gives the ability to: > > - own the data without giving it to google (privacy) > > - track web applications that are not on the public internet > > - anything else? > > > > Paul > >

[web2py:17325] Re: An improved Ticketing system

2009-03-02 Thread Paul Eden
Tell me if I am wrong, but I thought that funnels were predefined. So in order to track someone's activity through a certain set of pages you have to specify beforehand which pages you want to track and if the user follows that path then you get the information, all other paths are ignored. Is th

[web2py:17552] Re: Critical point in web2py

2009-03-05 Thread Paul Eden
That's true, Moin uses flat files, no DB. Paul On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Yarko Tymciurak wrote: > > Does anyone know how to do this w/ moin-moin? (I think it's just > file-based, but we would need access to the file / login to moin-moin server > then) > > --~--~-~--~~---

[web2py:17554] Re: Critical point in web2py

2009-03-05 Thread Paul Eden
+1 Web2py is a web application development platform/framework. The wiki is immature, but it is a good starting point and we will have more control over it than we would an off-the-shelf product. Paul On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Skylar Saveland wrote: > > > I think some of the problems with

[web2py:17740] Re: Pycon 2009 - Important

2009-03-09 Thread Paul Eden
I'll be there for Friday and Saturday. I would proudly wear a T-Shirt or a patch. Paul Eden On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 2:29 PM, mdipierro wrote: > > We have a booth at PyCon 2009. If you can me it let me know. > > I am looking for volunteers to make shifts at the booth and

[web2py:17745] Re: Pycon 2009 - Important

2009-03-09 Thread Paul Eden
I would have liked to be there at the Dojo, but unfortunately I am flying back to Arizona Saturday night. I'll definitely find the booth though. I can't wait to meet all of you. Paul On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 7:28 AM, mdipierro wrote: > > Thanks Paul, > > hope you can help with the booth too. We

[web2py:17771] Re: Critical point in web2py

2009-03-09 Thread Paul Eden
So, what's the game plan for documentation? I want to start workin'! :-) Paul --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py Web Framework" group. To post to this group, send email to web2py@googlegroups.co

[web2py:17772] Re: Critical point in web2py

2009-03-09 Thread Paul Eden
On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 8:14 PM, Paul Eden wrote: > So, what's the game plan for documentation? > > I want to start workin'! :-) > > Paul > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[web2py:17774] Re: Pycon 2009 - Important

2009-03-09 Thread Paul Eden
+1 Paul On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Yarko Tymciurak wrote: > I think we should be able to record the screen of the dojo, and have a > microphone... I doubt if anyone will want to watch a 2-3 hr. video, but > perhaps we can record and edit down to non-boring, non-silent time, and post > som

[web2py:17775] Re: Critical point in web2py

2009-03-09 Thread Paul Eden
Should we just link to the appliances app or should we change it somehow to allow for more documentation on the appliances in it? Once we get a go ahead on the place to document I would be happy to do any of the preceding. I don't have an over abundance of time, but I will have an hour or two

[web2py:17777] Re: Critical point in web2py

2009-03-09 Thread Paul Eden
art using https://mdp.cti.depaul.edu/wiki/. Paul On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Paul Eden wrote: > It looks to me like we can setup all of the following as links on the new > wiki/sphinx site(s). > >- Official web2py manual on Lulu <http://www.lulu.com/content/4968879>, >Amazon

[web2py:17780] Re: Critical point in web2py

2009-03-09 Thread Paul Eden
is already documented well elsewhere. If anyone is already working on the sphinx site (Yarko?) and wants help, I would like to help. Paul On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 9:00 PM, Paul Eden wrote: > It looks to me like we can setup all of the following as links on the new > wiki/sphinx site(s). > >

[web2py:17803] Re: Critical point in web2py

2009-03-10 Thread Paul Eden
I would say that the rendering of the 1st (==) and 2nd (-) level RST heading markup should be fixed first. - Both of them are being rendered as h1 tags which are too big. There is a very thorough list of requested improvements to the wiki (including the above), here

[web2py:17804] Re: Critical point in web2py

2009-03-10 Thread Paul Eden
+1 I like that we now have direction on this. On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 12:16 AM, Jonathan B wrote: > > I think that for the short term the Wiki can point out all of the > different locations where information can be found (as you've listed > in one of your recent emails). > > Also, people can sta

[web2py:17806] Re: Critical point in web2py

2009-03-10 Thread Paul Eden
Sounds good. Let me know after PyCon if I can help. Paul On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 10:45 PM, Yarko Tymciurak wrote: > Hi Paul - > Some of the existing documentation is copyrighted (e.g. the current book). > > If you want to help w/ sphinx, suggest you get current version, and get > familiar. > >

[web2py:17807] Re: Critical point in web2py

2009-03-10 Thread Paul Eden
+1 On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Yarko Tymciurak wrote: > Hi Paul: > > On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Paul Eden wrote: > >> One thing I am not clear on yet. >> >> We talked about the possibility of a wiki and a sphinx site. > > > We are doing both.

[web2py:17891] Re: web2py -wiki

2009-03-11 Thread Paul Eden
Awesome! Thanks Massimo. I think this will help a lot. Paul On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 1:22 PM, mdipierro wrote: > > https://launchpad.net/web2py-wiki > > feel free to help improve it > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed

[web2py:17926] RST to html on new wiki site source

2009-03-12 Thread Paul Eden
Hi Massimo, I was looking through the source of the new wiki and did not notice where the RST markup is converted to html. Can you point me to the right file? -- Best Regards, Paul Eden "...and a little looking out for the other guy too." -

[web2py:17939] Re: RST to html on new wiki site source

2009-03-12 Thread Paul Eden
Thanks, I just saw it. Paul On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 7:55 AM, mdipierro wrote: > > oops. models/rest.py was missing. I am reposting it. > > Massimo > > On Mar 12, 7:53 am, Paul Eden wrote: > > Hi Massimo, > > > > I was looking through the source of the new w

[web2py:17940] CSS enhancements to web2py-wiki

2009-03-12 Thread Paul Eden
Hi All, I created a new branch of the web2py-wiki on launchpad for css enhancements (IMHO). It is here: https://code.launchpad.net/~paul-benchline/web2py-wiki/css_tightening I propose it for merging into the trunk. -- Best Regards, Paul Eden "...and a little looking out for the othe

[web2py:18354] Re: Marketing suggestion

2009-03-19 Thread Paul Eden
+1 I echo the opportunities for improvement (almost all of them not being technical areas) and the positive points about the framework. Paul On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:18 AM, __future__ wrote: > > Greetings, > > I only recently discovered web2py and I am really impressed with the > product. How

[web2py:18355] Re: Marketing suggestion

2009-03-19 Thread Paul Eden
Good points Massimo. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 7:54 AM, mdipierro wrote: > > I agree with this. The new "who" and "support" pages are an attempt to > do exactly that. > > Although as I have suggested in the past it, we should not just > imitate other open source projects. We should think bigger. R