I noticed that a special API via the instance of the Auth class is
provided to manage groups, user memberships to groups, permissions and
groups access to permissions.
Is that purely a convenience thing or was it put in place to prevent
some weird crashes caused by race conditions if the DAL API i
anually.
>
> > You can also block users by putting "blocked" in the user
> > registration_key
>
> > On May 18, 4:35 pm, Magnitus wrote:
>
> > > I noticed that a special API via the instance of the Auth class is
> > > provided to manage groups,
But if you create "tasks" without doing it at the OS level, doesn't
that means that you won't really be able to take full advantage of
multi-processor hardware (since the OS handles the hardware and if the
OS doesn't know about it, it won't be able to do the required
optimizations with the hardware
delving deeply into Python's threading API.
On May 21, 5:00 am, Yarko Tymciurak
wrote:
> On May 21, 3:33 am, Magnitus wrote:
>
> > But if you create "tasks" without doing it at the OS level, doesn't
> > that means that you won't really be able to take
> I did not mean that in a negative tone, I do respect designers a great
> deal, they have a gift that seems to allude me =)
>I am sure Thadeus did not mean it is a negative sense. I am personally
>envious of designer given my total lack of artistic skills.
That makes 3 of us.
My experience with
n the parallelism (given that
there is a single lock on the entire API).
On May 21, 6:32 am, Graham Dumpleton
wrote:
> On May 21, 8:14 pm, Magnitus wrote:
>
> > Now that you mention it, I recall reading in the Python/C API that
> > Python wasn't really thread-safe and that
I do not foresee looking for serious consulting work at least for the
next year or so (if I do, it will be limited time stuff to pay the
bills until my main venture takes off if my savings run out).
After my game is off, I'll see (it will depend on how well it does).
I will certainly have accumul
Oui.
Il y en a au moins 3 on dirait.
On Jun 10, 3:47 pm, Jean Guy wrote:
> [?]
>
> Je demandais s'il y avait des québécois qui développe avec Web2py et qui son
> inscrit sur cette liste?
>
> Jean Guy
>
> 330.gif
> < 1KViewDownload
Hi, I'm a beginner in python and a complete neophyte in python web
frameworks so don't bash my head in if the questions are stupid...
I'm developing an application in C++ for windows x64 and I am now
looking for a way to make it a web app.
I'm looking for compatibility with python 2.6 (already st
Ah, I'm browsing through the web manual and found this statement which
left me with more questions:
"web2py runs with CPython (the C implementation) and/or Jython (the
Java implementation), versions 2.4, 2.5 and 2.6 although "officially"
only support 2.5 else we cannot guarantee backward compatibi
ing code base and, as such, all the code
> has to be ported. It won't happen overnight.
>
> Doesn't the code you wrote for python 2.6 run in 2.5? Maybe it does and you
> can integrate it easily with web2py (instead of integrating web2py with what
> you have).
>
> Regards,
umented here
> <http://groups.google.co.uk/group/web2py/browse_thread/thread/ddc56534...[Troubleshooting]+Running+from+source+on+windows+[WARNING%3Aroot%3Aunable+to+import+wsgiserver]+[WARNING%3Aroot%3Ano+file+locking]#f61c0827103abcd7>in
> the past and it solved my problem. Don't know why th
Running on Windows Vista here.
I notice that the CPU spikes at about 60% for a fraction of a second
every minute or so, but it does that whether web2py is running or not
(probably my anti-virus or another process running in the background).
I don't notice multiple python processes spawning or the
I'd lean toward option 3 as the default behavior also as its the most
flexible and allows the programmer to handle the situation as his
application requires.
>From that, option 1 and 2 can be implemented by the user using a flag
and a mutex.
On Feb 28, 11:27 pm, mdipierro wrote:
> follow up...
>
solution
to this problem would be to allow the programmer to change the time
interval between tasks at run time.
On Mar 1, 5:34 am, Magnitus wrote:
> I'd lean toward option 3 as the default behavior also as its the most
> flexible and allows the programmer to handle the situa
>From the fact that they stuck with MSVC++ 6.0 for so long (despite
2002, 2003, 2005 and 2008 coming along) and that MSVC++ 6.0 doesn't
support the 64 bits format, I will take a wild guess and presume that
Apache won't support Win64 anytime soon.
So, what this means is that I'll have to run the Ap
Well, I took a peak at mod_wsgi.c file (14000 lines of code in a
single .c file, that guy is hardcore... the scrolling alone would have
driven me insane) which pretty much confirmed my suspicions.
Calls to the Apache API (32 bits) is intermixed with calls to the
Python API (64 bits on my machine).
> LOL. That ambiguous phrasing may be enough to tip Graham Dumpleton
> over the edge!
Yes, well, unless I'm using the language of mathematics, I'm not the
best of communicator for technical stuff. I apologize.
> Others have also spoken enthusiastically about Lighttpd / Nginx in
> terms of speed,
>I know it could sounds cruel, but.. try to leave windows
Yeah, well, MS has a big share of the market.
As a teenage gamer, I used MS Windows to play my PC games.
As a undergrad student, I was taught C and then C++ with MS Visual
Studio.
During my 4 work terms, my employers used Windows as the
Thats exactly the type of solution I was looking for.
No integration nightmare.
Thanks for the tip :).
On Mar 9, 9:06 am, Timothy Farrell wrote:
> It's never that easy. Magnitus, you can use LightTPD on Windows. I'm
> not sure if it will satisfy the 64-bit requirement thou
>I'm also using web2py to handle the server-side portions of a turn-based
>multiplayer game I'm working on.
Same here, well, part of the server-side portion anyways.
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Well, it seems to be fashionable nowadays,
My father made one in Java ><.
On Mar 10, 10:42 pm, mdipierro wrote:
> http://web2py.com/sudoku
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No objection.
The python website encourages new users to use python 2.6 anyways.
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On Mar 14, 9:58 pm, Graham Dumpleton
wrote:
> You can potentially also use any error page as a tell tale fingerprint
> if defaults are used as different frameworks are going to each have
> their own.
Not only that, I find it very revelative that it states whether the
app is wrong, the controller
As I am in the process of reading both the web and pdf versions of the
manual (for which I am noticing some issues), I think I should state a
list of issues I am seeing in case someone decides to "fix" it (would
probably make his job easier).
After all, as I'm reading it, it occured to me that I c
Web/Pdf Ambiguity:
In section 3.6, line 16 of the model (the "'%(title)s'" part) is
probably the hardest part of the code to grasp (it was for me) and yet
very little elaboration is provided (leaving the reader wondering).
It was not immediately clear to me that it was strictly for the
presentati
Pdf/Web Ambiguity:
In section 4.2, it was not readily apparent (to me) that the init
application doesn't exist by default and that really, it is simply a
mecanism for the application programmer to define an handler.
Perhaps it should be specified so that the reader is not left
wondering.
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Pdf Issue:
The pagination doesn't match the table of contents.
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Web Errata:
In section 4.6, the last 4 fields describing the accessors for the
request object are not properly aligned and all jumbled up in a single
paragraph.
Pdf: Errata:
In section 4.6, the example for a request is not displayed at all
(compare it to the web version and you'll see immediatel
> In section 4.6, the example for a request is not displayed at all
> (compare it to the web version and you'll see immediately what I'm
> talking about).
Nevermind, I see that it is displayed, but after the start of the next
section (my bad).
However, comparing it with the web version now makes
Web, errata:
At the very bottom of section 4.10, the example for the URL of the
image is omitted.
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We can make modifications to the book, ala wiki?
On Mar 24, 1:37 am, mdipierro wrote:
> If you make a major contribution to the book (like a new section), you
> should sign it with your name. This is because if I incorporate the
> chapter in a future printed version, I will want to acknowledge yo
Web/Pdf Ambiguity:
In section 4.12, a one-liner mention is made of the "Accept-Language"
field, but it might not be sufficient for someone who is inexperienced
with the HTTP protocol to grasp (that it is something the user usually
sets in his browser for example).
Perhaps a brief introduction to
Thanks for the tip :).
They also have a section on machine learning, nice (I wish they had
had an undergraduate class on machine learning at my univ on top of
the general AI class).
On Mar 24, 11:38 pm, Thadeus Burgess wrote:
> http://academicearth.org/courses/building-dynamic-websites
>
> -Thad
Hi,
assuming that I have a "Record" table with a field called "Name" in
the database (all also that there are a bunch of other fields for that
table).
Assume that I make the following query:
Rows = db().select(db.Record.ALL)
Is there a way to directly (with one line without having to iterate
th
Who still uses IE6 anyways?
Ah, I once found a way to automatically close the web browser without
asking for the user permission using javascript for IE7. I googled it
somewhere.
It was great for doing unit tests on the client-side GUI scripts.
On Mar 31, 12:56 pm, mdipierro wrote:
> http://plu
pr 1, 10:30 am, Thadeus Burgess wrote:
> ``db().select(db.Record.Name)`` returns a rows object, which acts like a
> tuple.
>
> -Thadeus
>
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 5:06 AM, DenesL wrote:
> > thelist=[row.Name for row in db().select(db.Record.Name)]
>
> &
)
To be:
db('NOT %s' % (db.Record.Group_id!=ID |
db.Record.Name.belongs(List_of_names))).delete()
Got it.
On Apr 1, 2:01 pm, Magnitus wrote:
> Thanks for both replies :).
>
> So, if ``db().select(db.Record.Name)`` acts like a tuple, then I can
> do something like
; db((db.Record.Group_id == ID) &
> (~db.Record.Name.belongs(db(db.Record.BloodType ==
> 'O-')._select(.count()
>
> -Thadeus
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:01 PM, Magnitus wrote:
> > Thanks for both replies :).
>
> > So, if ``db().sel
ro wrote:
> The issue is just a missing backet
>
> db((db.Record.Group_id==ID)&(!
> db.Record.Name.belongs(List_of_names))).delete()
>
> On Apr 1, 1:01 pm, Magnitus wrote:
>
>
>
> > Thanks for both replies :).
>
> > So, if ``db().select
has ie6..it's as awesome as it sounds.
>
> Regards,
> Tiago
> --
>
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Magnitus wrote:
> > Who still uses IE6 anyways?
>
> > Ah, I once found a way to automatically close the web browser without
> > a
>Project for the summer: manual 3rd edition.<
Yes! That would be awesome.
Thank you :).
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I found that doing it the "hard" way was in some way easier for me.
Been at least 2 months since I setup the server on vps and its amazing
how much you can forget in 2 months when you have to cram other stuff
in your head, but here is what I recall of it:
1) Disable admin. Setup a sudo user (I re
Assuming that you know how to create sound effects in regular
Javascript, making your own pluggin for it doesn't seem that
difficult.
Lets assume that you want a pluggin that affect only div elements in a
wrapped set and you want to be able to specify the sound...
It'd look something like this (n
Meant to do this for a while as it was irritating me (both the lack of
multilingual support and the "" option when a default is specified).
Pretty much a copy-paste from sqlhtml.OptionsWidget.widget method with
2 improvements (as per the title):
1) The options get translated using the facility pr
I know I've had problems with form submission when a form submit cause
modification in its own fields (for SQLFORM.factory anyways).
When doing something like that, the following approach worked for me:
On Sep 27, 4:37 am, b0j3 wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I'd like to add new fields to SQLFORM.factory,
You can look at the internals if there is a bug, if core features
don't do what you want and you need to extend them or if the
documentation isn't sufficient for you to understand how to properly
use the facilities provided by the framework.
However, this should be the exception and not the norm.
Never heard of it.
With jQuery (http://jquery.com/), the Javascript part is not so bad as
about 95% of the browser dependant code is handled by the library.
However, css is still a real pain in the neck. I know people like to
complain about IE, but Google Chrome and Apple Safari are the ones
that
I'm not sure if he was suggesting it as a solution for the community
as much as asking about it for his purposes.
If you use tables a lot, the html might be clutered, but if you follow
the tips in this article and keep the tags to a minimum (using css for
the styling & layout), then html is not so
While I'm aware that many of those optimizations can be built on top
of the DAL, I think it would be nice if they were provided as optional
parts of a more complete optimisation solution with the DAL:
1) Fine Grained Cache
Instead of simply caching selects in memory and retrieving it in
memory, c
On Oct 4, 1:19 pm, mdipierro wrote:
> Please help me update
>
> http://www.appliedstacks.com/NewestFirst/web2py
>
> Massimo
Do you mean check the links to make sure they are still valid or
report our aps?
If its for reporting an ap, I only have one online atm and its a "test
app" that I used to
I am in the process of securing the help of an artist for my project,
but he's a casual computer user (doesn't know ssh/scp) and I'm trying
very hard to make everything as painless and pleasant as possible for
him to secure his help.
In order to do that, I decided to create a view that will allow
e it access to the language files. Being
able to define an 'Artist' group and give it limited access to the
static files.
Anyways, my 2 cents.
On Oct 7, 3:44 am, Magnitus wrote:
> I am in the process of securing the help of an artist for my project,
> but he's a casual compu
The concept of "static" pages where you can submit data to the server
seems a bit weird (means you can submit info to the server, but then
you never see the result of that info... unless you access the info
via Ajax requests I guess).
Anyways, concerning the centralized Ajax requests, its definite
nk solution 2 is probably the lesser of 2 evils.
btw, if I'm not the only nutcase who do all his html/javascript/css
himself and put placeholder pictures for an artist to fill, I guess I
could create a slice detailing my solution.
On Oct 7, 3:07 pm, Magnitus wrote:
> Something just occured
ynamic. Maybe limit the area, I'll see.
>
> I've got some apps around the web with the admin exposed and haven't
> had any problems. Though it probably helps that nothing links to them.
>
> Could you modify admin so that it locks the account after a number of
> successi
Hi,
btw, I upgraded from 1.87 to 1.91 to see if the problem would get
resolved and 1.91 is loading my pages significantly faster. Also, the
revised version of the pdf manual is greatly superior to the original.
Thank you for that.
So, I tried to get fancy and use a computer field in my model and
to compute fields
> when there is not enough information. The downside is that a typo will
> result in a silent failure to compute. Perhaps we should do this
> anyway.
>
> Massimo
>
> On Dec 22, 4:56 pm, Magnitus wrote:
>
> > Hi,
>
> > btw, I upgraded from 1.87
I've thought about the dependencies problem a little bit.
Maybe add some kind of hook so that the user can define the
dependencies of the computed field himself.
If he doesn't define them, the current behavior occurs.
If he defines them, the behavior could be as follow:
1) All the dependencies
Wow, some heavy duty concerns in this thread...
I'm not fully versed in the detailed legalities of those things, but
I'll elaborate things as I understand them and perhaps I can be
corrected if I'm wrong...
Basically, I get Web2py under the GLP licence.
Under that licence, I can:
1) Use and dis
Hi,
some of my users have encountered a weird error on my mock production
server.
They get the following ticket when the first page (login) tries to
load:
Internal error
Ticket issued: unknown
Rebooting the server fixed the problem, but I'd still like to get some
insight into what could have g
So I guess it would be indicative of a lower level issue at a layer
below the framework?
I guess its time to dust off those Apache logs then.
On Jan 5, 3:42 pm, Kenneth Lundström
wrote:
> If I remember right Unknown ticket is displayed when web2py/webserver is
> not able to write a ticket into t
Well, not very reassuring, but thanks for confirming that.
On Jan 5, 6:28 pm, Massimo Di Pierro
wrote:
> You will not finding anything at tha apache log error. This is a
> web2py error and it is indeed its failure to write to the filesystem.
>
> On Jan 5, 3:30 pm, Magnitus wrote:
&g
As a programmer, I found Web2py more appealing out of the box.
I did a fair chunk of the Django tutorial, but they started on a bad
note by showing me how to add an admin interface and considering it to
be some hot stuff (for crying out loud, that's a pretty high level
feature and one that you can
I'm trying to determine whether the built-in web2py cache will fulfill
my needs or not and thus need a clarification on the following...
Based on this completely artificial example to illustrate my
questions:
someModule.py:
def ICacheLogs(cache, X):
return db(db.log.id==X).select(db.log.ALL,
user rather
than the framework.
Obviously, the example I gave is not practical, but illustrates my
question well.
>
> On Jan 28, 3:52 pm, Magnitus wrote:
>
> > I'm trying to determine whether the built-in web2py cache will fulfill
> > my needs or not and thus need a clarific
http://dev.w3.org/html5/webvtt/#text/vtt
http://www.w3.org/community/texttracks/2012/08/23/webvtt-support-in-browsers/
I know the format is still pretty bleeding edge, but it seems to be gaining
support amongst browser manufacturers.
I can see why. It is a very good concept I find.
I think supp
It's good, thank you :).
On Friday, 18 January 2013 11:00:30 UTC-5, Massimo Di Pierro wrote:
>
> Please. check if the solution in trunk is correct.
>
> On Friday, 18 January 2013 04:19:01 UTC-6, Magnitus wrote:
>>
>> http://dev.w3.org/html5/webvtt/#text/vtt
>
Hi gents,
I have been populating my databases with groups (for access control)
manually for a while and then, switched to running a script that does it,
though I still run the script manually in the web2py context.
Now, I'd like to programmatically implement this in a sensible way (in a
way th
After some reflection, I suppose I could write a wrapper script that first
runs python web2py.py --import_models --shell=/default
--run="" and then starts web2py normally when using web2py
standalone.
That is one workaround.
On Wednesday, 28 November 2012 11:19:01 UTC-5, Magn
structure), but that's not the
default out of the box architecture.
Either way, inserting the script into a module that is included in a
controller is not a 100% satisfying solution since the script is actually
executed on the first page request and not really at startup.
On Wednesday, 28
Sincere apologies for poking holes at this beautiful framework, but while
I'm in here, I have another issue I encountered while using the framework.
I'm only expressing hurdles I've encountered while using the framework in
the hope that it can give the devs some insights on how the framework can
uted
with every request.
On Thursday, 29 November 2012 10:44:17 UTC-5, Jonathan Lundell wrote:
>
> On 29 Nov 2012, at 6:41 AM, Magnitus >
> wrote:
>
> I'd be curious to know if the lack of feedback on this thread so far is
> due to the devs being incredibly busy or web2py
>Please open a ticket for improvement and list APIs you would want to have.
I will probably add them.
I'll take a look at what posters have described so far and if I find that
the functionality is still lacking, I'll add a ticket for it.
>2) you can use auth.define_tables(username=True) so that
14:00:05 UTC-5, Jonathan Lundell wrote:
>
> On 29 Nov 2012, at 10:22 AM, Magnitus >
> wrote:
>
> >There are a couple of issues. One is: what do you mean by startup? It's
> fairly well defined if you're running web2py with Rocket as the server, but
> in a wsgi e
Btw, one additioanl thing...
Looking at the Settings.py file, I see this line of code:
settings = global_settings # legacy compatibility
Given what is written in the comments, is it a good idea to use
global_settings in new apps?
On Friday, 30 November 2012 12:38:08 UTC-5, Magnitus wrote
ok,reading it again, I see that this has more to with with the
functionality having two different names (one old, one new and more
descriptive) rather than being deprecated.
On Friday, 30 November 2012 12:45:04 UTC-5, Jonathan Lundell wrote:
>
> On 30 Nov 2012, at 9:41 AM, Magnitus >
:
>
> On 30 Nov 2012, at 9:38 AM, Magnitus >
> wrote:
>
> What you are suggesting addresses the concurrency access problem (which
> could be resolved with the DB since it locks or with your suggestion).
>
> However, if you stick the logic in your model, you still have the
Holy cow, you're right!
I've had so many things on my mind that I totally forgot about that!
Guess that will speed up my production app a little then...
On Friday, 30 November 2012 13:06:34 UTC-5, Jonathan Lundell wrote:
>
> On 30 Nov 2012, at 9:54 AM, Magnitus >
>
I must have spent a good hour hammering at this before I got it right.
Maybe rephrase it a bit, but I think it's a good example...
Assume that you want all users returned, but want to outline specifically
those belonging to group A or B (with the others having their group set to
None) in one qu
in for the
auth_group.
On Monday, 10 December 2012 14:48:16 UTC-5, Magnitus wrote:
>
> I must have spent a good hour hammering at this before I got it right.
>
> Maybe rephrase it a bit, but I think it's a good example...
>
> Assume that you want all users returned, but want to outlin
I am currently in the process of writing a netflix/youtube-like app that
allows you stream movies on your local LAN (eventually, perhaps over the
internet even, but that is not an immediate priority, especially given my
limited data transfer allowance by my ISP) using a web interface.
I am writ
%2Fi3QdrO%27MhWp0%7D%7D3P%29iWU%5Ezt%7El%3Ds%21TeaI%7DHo%23hRY5Bfq%3F_%3Cr%5B1g%7Dd_LNl%3Cc%5EFaFwZ%29V%5BlNws39%5B%2Ft%22o3%25%3AL%5E%22&User=Magnitus
HTTP/1.1 Host 127.0.0.1:8000 Accept-Encoding identity;q=1, *;q=0
User-Agent Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.11 (KHTML
With an async server (like node.js) you do not have to worry about loss of
> resources when a connection is open and the client is idle.
>
> Massimo
>
>
>
> On Sunday, 30 December 2012 14:32:44 UTC-6, Magnitus wrote:
>>
>> I am currently in the process of writing
ore they get killed, response.stream(chunk_size=...)).
>
> With an async server (like node.js) you do not have to worry about loss of
> resources when a connection is open and the client is idle.
>
> Massimo
>
>
>
> On Sunday, 30 December 2012 14:32:44 UTC-6, Magnitus wr
I gave up on the first attempt after waiting over 10 minutes for a reply.
Second attempt worked and promptly.
Used Visa.
btw, thanks for the reasonable pricing on the pdf format.
I hate it when the price for the physical copy and the price for the pdf
are almost the same.
If it helps, consider it a donation with benefits ;).
>This is very good advice. I have moved many of my plugins and apps from
using models to modules because of the performance gain. There is nothing
wrong with the models implementation, but it's really meant to define
tables and that's it. Functionality that doesn't belong in a controller
should
I recently read a book about html 5 and promptly started using some of the
features described in my project.
I experienced a problem with the audio tag and Firefox which I reduced to a
minimalistic example illustrating the problem.
*The experiment:*
*1) Control Situation*
I put "Main_theme.we
Ah, obviously, the default server is Rocket, not Tornado (sorry for the
typo, I guess Tornado just sounds cooler :P).
Anyways, I guess I'll test it on my web2py+Apache node next time I do an
update on it in order to isolate the server variable.
Making some inroads.
The file type returned in the HTTP header for audio files is this:
text/plain; charset=utf-8
Accoding to this article, Firefox is actually the correct implementation
amongst the browsers for this, because it respects the file type indicated
by the server:
https://develope
The problem is with web2py.
I changed 'contenttype.py' in gluon and added '.webm': 'video/webm' to the
list.
If the necessary changes could be made to the trunk so that I don't have to
do the above modification to my copy each time I download the latest
version of the framework, it would be a
Well, thank you for the support :).
I realize that the html5 codecs situation is a bit of a mess at the present.
@Lightdot:
It's always reassuring to know you're not the only one who tripped over
this.
Sometimes, I feel like I should know the Framework inside out after having
used it for abou
I wrote the engine myself so it's as flexible as I need it to be ;).
Haven't gone on the XML wagon yet, was simply considering it.
I did work with JSON for the AJAX component of my web server so that
solution is looking pretty good atm. I thought it was mostly a
Javascript-Server thing and wasn't
I have a web server running with Web2py.
I have potentially several instances of my game engine running as
standalone C++ processes.
They communicate with each other via sockets (given that the game
engine needs to be expendable over several computers, sockets are a
must).
So far, I've used bare
t; so the power is all yours,. use JSON or AMF
>
> There are many C++ Json libs for sure.
>
> (http://jsoncpp.sourceforge.net/)
>
> For AMF (Binary Protocol , Lesser packet size , Higher
> Performance)http://code.google.com/p/libamfx/
>
> On 9/20/11, Magnitus wrote:
>
&
gt; libjson.
> > nosjob.
> > JSONKit.
> > JsonBox.
>
> > On 9/20/11, Phyo Arkar wrote:
> >> yeah may be due to nature of C/C++ is not used for programming web
> >> apps json support is quite weak.
>
> >> Python's Nat
So far, I've been using this service for my personal apps at 1 node:
http://www.vps.net/product/cloud-servers/
Recently, someone suggested this: http://fibervolt.com/vps.php
At the lower specs range (and assuming you don't use even a 1/10 of
the bandwidth vps provides), you have something that is
I agree.
s.a is not sufficient if you want to avoid code repetition.
You'll naturally want use something like s['a'] at some point if you
want to write good code and you will also want to rely on the
convenient "returns None instead of throwing an exception" facility.
There are workarounds for t
Definitely, so much is storage (vars, sessions, DAL results, etc) that
you pretty much have to use it.
And for that reason, I think it warrants its own small subsection in
the manual.
For uses where I don't have to rely on None identifying initialized
keys with the None value specifically, I tend
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