Re: [NOTICE] Wave is Retired - What's next?

2018-02-03 Thread Michael MacFadden
I think I have admin access to the old waveprotocol.org site if that helps. I can probably add people as admins. ~Michael On 2/2/18, 2:05 AM, "Pablo Ojanguren" wrote: No idea either... I didn't use google sites before. First discussion in the new group could be whether to move the sit

Re: [VOTE] Retire Wave

2018-01-03 Thread Michael MacFadden
+1 On 1/1/18, 2:51 PM, "Upayavira" wrote: Wave is currently in the Apache Incubator, which has expectations of how a project matures. Wave, being a small project, over its seven years of incubation, is not showing signs of reaching graduation. Thus, it seems time we accept that the Incuba

Re: [DISCUSS] Retire Wave

2017-12-11 Thread Michael MacFadden
John, As a long-time lurker and initial contributor, I agree. The project has just not ever hit critical mass. There have been several dedicated induvial, there have been spurts of activity, and there is still much potential. However, the project just hasn’t been able to move toward graduation

Re: SwellRT update

2017-03-21 Thread Michael MacFadden
Pablo, +1 on this approach. I think this is the best idea if we can pull it off. ~Michael On 3/21/17, 8:30 AM, "Pablo Ojanguren" wrote: At this moment I don't see Wave as a downstream dependency of SwellRT. (SwellRT depending on Wave, right?) SwellRT has modified Wave in different

Re: To-do's for graduation

2017-03-11 Thread Michael MacFadden
Hello all, I know there has been some email traffic on this recently, but I think we should also prepare a little section in the wiki that talks about the people in the project. Who would be the committers, the PMC, etc. Essentially who are going to be the initial active participants of the TL

Re: SwellRT tech overview

2016-10-11 Thread Michael MacFadden
Upayavira, +1 We have a lot of folks (myself included) who are very interested in wave, but aren’t actively developing. We need to show the SwellRT folks that we have something to offer from a contribution standpoint (e.g. coding, design, documentation, etc.). If we can bring them some extra

Re: ALL HANDS - 9/28 10am EST

2016-09-28 Thread Michael MacFadden
; retirement recently discussed. While not answered conclusively, I > > think it > > >> is safe to expect the retirement will be held off *for now*. > > >> > > >> This meeting is about the future of Wave. > > >> If you care about the project *at* *all*, *pl

Re: Retirement

2016-09-03 Thread Michael MacFadden
ould take though. I am so ignorant > with > >> >> > > big projects, both socially and structurally. Theres tools out > there > >> >> > > supposed to help motivate and organised (www.teamily.com) dont > know > >> >> > > how effectiv

Re: Retirement

2016-08-31 Thread Michael MacFadden
ust fizzle out? >>>>>>> Apache provides somewhat needed pressure, structure and to some >> extent >>>>>>> even prestige. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> While retirement is understandable necessity for things without >>&g

Re: Retirement

2016-08-30 Thread Michael MacFadden
Yuri, Being a mostly silent participant at this point. I would tend to agree with you. I think however, we should provide a “what next” option. So for example, people might be more willing to retire the project if they knew for example we could move to github and still allow people to contri

Re: Github pull requests discussion

2016-04-25 Thread Michael MacFadden
I don't know that we have to "move" to git hub pull requests. We can support both I guess? ~Michael > On Apr 24, 2016, at 8:38 AM, Evan Hughes wrote: > > Regarding #1 see the commits I pushed today. >> On 25/04/2016 12:58 AM, "Yuri Z" wrote: >> >> I think we can try it. >> I see a few cons t

Re: Should we remove Federation?

2016-04-21 Thread Michael MacFadden
> >> > >> > -- >> > http://lostagain.nl <-- our company site. >> > http://fanficmaker.com <-- our, really,really, bad story generator. >> > >> > >> > On 21 April 2016 at 07:26, Evan Hughes wrote: >> >

Re: Should we remove Federation? Wave as XEP/XMMP Extension

2016-04-20 Thread Michael MacFadden
with a new key. Whenever a participant is added to the wave - >>>> whoever adds him also adds a new record into this user data wavelet with >>>> the wave private key that is encrypted with the user's public key. This >>>> way >>>> only the new

Re: Should we remove Federation? Wave as XEP/XMMP Extension

2016-04-20 Thread Michael MacFadden
is own >wave blockchain (like running his own wallet) or use a web wallet - i.e. >wave client hosted by someone else. > >On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 12:24 PM Andreas Kotes wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 09:20:43PM -0700, Michael MacFadden wrote: >>

Re: Should we remove Federation?

2016-04-18 Thread Michael MacFadden
I wonder what is the actual issue with federation... is it XMPP? is it the >implementation itself? is it the wave protocol design? > > >2016-04-09 23:02 GMT+02:00 Yuri Z : > >> I am not sure we know how to do it right anyways. >> >> On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 11:53

Re: Should we remove Federation?

2016-04-09 Thread Michael MacFadden
I agree, I don’t think any one was talking about removing federation as a goal. On 4/9/16, 6:34 AM, "Thomas Wrobel" wrote: >Oh, if its only the current implementation, sure if its not got value. >Being merely a onlooker its been a long time since I have looked at >the codebase - but would re

Re: A Wavy Future

2016-03-19 Thread Michael MacFadden
uill. Its a rich text editor, which emits user events and Jason (the >>> author) has a module which interprets those events, builds operations >>> and can do OT with them. It doesn't support rich embedding of >>> components yet, but he's working on that now. >>

Re: Speed issues of wiab resolved and open sourced on github

2016-03-18 Thread Michael MacFadden
Cool. Is there a current demo of this running some where? ~Michael On 3/16/16, 5:01 AM, "Yuri Z" wrote: >Hi Kirill >Great news, thanks! >I think those were the main issues with Apache Wave. Hopefully your >contributions will allow us to fix those issues and make Apache Wave faster >and more

Re: A Wavy Future

2016-03-15 Thread Michael MacFadden
? or is this >> > >> needed anyway regardless? >> > >> >> > >> I admit I only know the basics of OT and am vaguely remembering a >> > >> conversation about realtime blip editing adding complexity to things. >> > >> >>

Re: A Wavy Future

2016-03-12 Thread Michael MacFadden
the mailing list it didnt happen at all", but allows for non formal talk > and back and forth discussion realtime. The Monthly reports that we talked > about back when we did the hangout session should probably be picked up > again, ill add it to the monthly todo's. >

Re: A Wavy Future

2016-03-12 Thread Michael MacFadden
One follow up question though. Does hip hat store conversations in a publicly accessible manner? If not, we need to make sure key decisions that come out of chats are captured and discussed on the mailing list for all to see. ~Michael > On Mar 12, 2016, at 7:15 AM, Evan Hughes wrote: > > I

Re: A Wavy Future

2016-03-12 Thread Michael MacFadden
Sounds great. ~Michael > On Mar 12, 2016, at 7:15 AM, Evan Hughes wrote: > > I would get infra to make us a hipchat channel so we have some place to > talk casually web interface / irc, but seesm the jira's down. Looking to > getting this rolling in some way or another by mid week. > > ~ Evan

Re: A Wavy Future

2016-03-10 Thread Michael MacFadden
PM, "Michael MacFadden" wrote: >Looking over the doc is a good start, I think we could codify some additional >things or principles that we would want to account for. > >Personally, my expertise lies in the OT system and the client to server >messaging. Both in the imple

Re: A Wavy Future

2016-03-10 Thread Michael MacFadden
Looking over the doc is a good start, I think we could codify some additional things or principles that we would want to account for. Personally, my expertise lies in the OT system and the client to server messaging. Both in the implementation and in the “why/how” of what is there now. One th

Re: Web Designers

2016-01-30 Thread Michael MacFadden
I agree. I did the initial design of the site we have many years ago, and we really haven’t done much with it since than. Should we perhaps put an “advertisement” on the current web site letting folks know we are looking for help with a new design? If so, I could add that to our current site.

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Wave 0.4.0-rc10

2015-11-16 Thread Michael MacFadden
Is there anything we can do to help with that? On 11/14/15, 6:07 AM, "Ali Lown" wrote: >I am trying to get enough votes from IPMC, we need 3 but only have 2 >currently (Justin, Christian). > >Ali > >On 14 November 2015 at 00:25, Evan Hughes wrote: >> Is the release still stuck due to the iss

Re: [VOTE] Wave 0.4.0-rc10

2015-10-30 Thread Michael MacFadden
gt;> > >> > Hey folks, >> > >> > I checked but didn't find anything. +1 from me. >> > >> > I checked on legals of course. >> > >> > Cheers >> > >> > On Sat, Oct 24, 2015, at 01:11, Evan Hughes wrote:

Re: [VOTE] Wave 0.4.0-rc10

2015-10-22 Thread Michael MacFadden
+1 On 10/22/15, 2:13 PM, "Alex North" wrote: >+1 > >On Thu, 22 Oct 2015 at 22:08 Vicente J. Ruiz Jurado >wrote: > >> El 10/10/15 a las 08:58, Ali Lown escribió: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > RC10 is now available for review. >> > Artefacts can be found here: >> > https://people.apache.org/~al/wave_

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Wave 0.4.0-rc10

2015-10-21 Thread Michael MacFadden
le have the ability to vote - it >isn't a requirement that it completes within a specific timeframe. > >thx. > >Upayavira > >On Mon, Oct 19, 2015, at 09:39 PM, Michael MacFadden wrote: >> All, >> >> I still find the Wave project quite interesting and am

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Wave 0.4.0-rc10

2015-10-19 Thread Michael MacFadden
All, I still find the Wave project quite interesting and am more than happy to help. I just haven’t really felt the pull of the community. If I thought there we something specific I could do to help I would be more than happy. I would like to see the release finally happen. Even if we event

Re: [VOTE] Wave Release Candidate 9

2015-05-30 Thread Michael MacFadden
+1 ~Michael > On May 30, 2015, at 3:01 AM, Yuri Z wrote: > > Ok, should we then proceed with release while adding a notice that > federation is broken atm? > >> On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 11:23 AM Upayavira wrote: >> >> remember that the intent of this release is to show that we know how to >>

Re: RC7 Vote Release

2015-04-05 Thread Michael MacFadden
Ali, Adding them now. First one is in. On 4/4/15, 12:30 PM, "Ali Lown" wrote: >@Michael: What CSS type issues are these? Could you raise a JIRA issue for it? > >Ali > >On 4 April 2015 at 19:58, Michael MacFadden >wrote: >> All, >> >> I instal

Re: RC7 Vote Release

2015-04-04 Thread Michael MacFadden
7;t broken. >> > >> > Has anyone checked the file copyright notices? >> > >> > Ali >> > >> > On 2 April 2015 at 00:31, Michael MacFadden >> wrote: >> >> +1 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>

Re: Coming Months

2015-04-03 Thread Michael MacFadden
I would be happy to participate. Perhaps the first thing to know is.. What time zones people are all in. I am in US Pacific Time Zone (UTC -7:00). ~Michael On 4/2/15, 7:40 AM, "Evan Hughes" wrote: >sure, just need to know what time of day is suitable for the speakers as we >should keep a

Re: RC7 Vote Release

2015-04-01 Thread Michael MacFadden
+1 On 4/1/15, 3:04 PM, "Dave Ball" wrote: >+1 > >lgtm - tested simple install, user registration and local waves. > >Dave > >On 01/04/15 06:11, Yuri Z wrote: >> RC7 is now available for review. >> >> Artifacts can be found here: >> *https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/wave/0.7-in

Re: Roadmap

2015-03-25 Thread Michael MacFadden
I mainly agree with Yuri. I personally believe that the first steps should be addressing the part that make I hard for new developers to come in and help. Build System… replacing obscure technologies… developer docs. Separation of UI from server… etc. On 3/25/15, 3:08 AM, "Dave Ball" wrote

Re: Raise your hands if you would like to participate

2015-03-23 Thread Michael MacFadden
+1 Although, only if we have some specific objectives, like getting a release, or mavenizing, or any other well defined task that we can move towards as a group. More like +0 if it just random work on random issues that I am interested in knocking of in Jira. On 3/23/15, 5:47 PM, "Ali Lown"

Re: GSoC 2015 with Apache Wave

2015-03-23 Thread Michael MacFadden
shan Lakmal >>> >> wrote: >>> >> > > Hi Michael, >>> >> > > >>> >> > > I'm interested to working on Native Android Client [1] because I >>> think >>> >> it >>> >> >

Re: GSoC 2015 with Apache Wave

2015-03-19 Thread Michael MacFadden
Roshan, There are plenty of tasks within Wave that could be worked on. Do you have any particular interest? UI, Backend work, etc.? I am sure we could find you something. ~Michael On 3/19/15, 5:33 AM, "Roshan Lakmal" wrote: >Hi all, > >I'm Roshan Lakmal, an Undergraduate student from I

Re: Wave and Incubation

2015-03-15 Thread Michael MacFadden
All, Just because Wave would be potentially retired as an apache incubator project, does not mean that it is any more or less viable as an open source project. It just means that the project is not right for the apache software foundation. The code could be, will be, moved to a github reposit

Re: March 2015 Report

2015-03-03 Thread Michael MacFadden
All, I have updated the report on the wiki page for Wave. ~Michael On 3/1/15, 12:50 PM, "Ali Lown" wrote: >Michael, > >If you could write the report this quarter, that would be great! >(Though there hasn't exactly been a lot to write about...) > >Ali >

Re: March 2015 Report

2015-03-01 Thread Michael MacFadden
Ali, I’ll type it up today. ~Michael On 3/1/15, 12:50 PM, "Ali Lown" wrote: >Michael, > >If you could write the report this quarter, that would be great! >(Though there hasn't exactly been a lot to write about...) > >Ali > >On 1 March 2015 at 18:56

Re: March 2015 Report

2015-03-01 Thread Michael MacFadden
If not one else is able. I am more than happy to help ~Michael On 2/28/15, 12:42 AM, "Christian Grobmeier" wrote: >Any volunteers for this report? > >On Fri, Feb 27, 2015, at 07:01, Marvin Humphrey wrote: >> >> Greetings, {podling} developers, >> >> The "marvin" automated report reminder

Wave Release

2015-02-17 Thread Michael MacFadden
Wave Community, I was wondering if there was any more progress towards a release? I have a feeling that we were still pretty close. Is there anything I/we could do to help push this through? Is there still interest in doing a release? ~Michael

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for Dec 2014 ([ppmc])

2014-12-04 Thread Michael MacFadden
Anything I can do to help with the release? ~Michael > On Dec 3, 2014, at 12:49 AM, Yuri Z wrote: > > Ok, I updated the wiki, please review/edit. > >> On Mon Dec 01 2014 at 4:58:34 PM Ali Lown wrote: >> >> Yuri, >> >> That sounds like a great plan. >> >> I would love to help, but am swampe

Re: JSON editing and move conflicts

2014-10-20 Thread Michael MacFadden
Joseph, I¹d like to drill into the directory structure mapping concept a bit. Can you epand on the use case where you think ShareJS would be used to map to a directory structure? I think thing this would help us understand some of the challenges. ~Michael From: Richard Davis Reply-To: Date

Re: JSON editing and move conflicts

2014-10-19 Thread Michael MacFadden
Bruno, Using lists of lists alleviates of the issues that Joseph mentions with object properties. With nested list there are safe and easy ways to handle these types of conflicts since we can increment array indices with predictable and non-destructive outcomes. You point about lambdas is correc

Re: RC6 available for pre-view

2014-08-30 Thread Michael MacFadden
uri Z" wrote: >I think we should discuss the versioning. I adopted the http://semver.org/ >for RC6. So the RC6 version looks like: 0.4.0-rc.6-incubating > >And the release version will be 0.4.0. > >Any thoughts? >On Aug 29, 2014 7:37 AM, "Michael MacFadden" >w

Re: RC6 available for pre-view

2014-08-28 Thread Michael MacFadden
All, Very nice. I am doing some testing on the demo right now. Thus far nothing major to report. What are the main things we should be reviewing for RC6? I have been following the licensing discussion. Anything else? ~Michael On 8/28/14, 3:10 PM, "Yuri Z" wrote: >Hi >Please preview/review

Re: [VOTE] Release Wave 0.5 based on RC5

2014-07-21 Thread Michael MacFadden
+1 On 7/21/14, 12:08 PM, "Andrew Kaplanov" wrote: >+1.

Re: Current Release Status

2014-07-19 Thread Michael MacFadden
Ok, I’ll get that updated. On 7/19/14, 10:02 AM, "Yuri Z" wrote: >The download page should refer to the official releases location at >https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/wave/ > > >On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 4:24 AM, Michael MacFadden < >mic

Re: An Open Source implementation of Google Drive Realtime API

2014-07-15 Thread Michael MacFadden
Random question. You mention. GR, Wave, and Etherpad. What is GR? ~Michael > On Jul 9, 2014, at 10:39 AM, Kythyria wrote: > >> On 07/09/14 16:25, Thomas Wrobel wrote: >> Of what benefit would contributing this to wave be? >> >> Doesn't wave do a superset of this functionality already? (albeit

Re: Release

2014-07-12 Thread Michael MacFadden
All, Although I have been dormant. I am willing to help out with the release in any way possible. If you need some one to go through the release and test it. Or post it up to he web site once we have it ready let me know. I haven¹t helped out in a while, so I would love to contribute. ~Michael

Re: An Open Source implementation of Google Drive Realtime API

2014-07-08 Thread Michael MacFadden
ot; wrote: >inline > >On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Michael MacFadden < >michael.macfad...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks. I’ll need to look at the code a little more, but this appears >>to >> handle transforming two operations (or two sets of operations). In

Re: An Open Source implementation of Google Drive Realtime API

2014-07-08 Thread Michael MacFadden
rol Algorithm is at: >https://github.com/goodow/realtime-operation/blob/master/src/main/java/com >/goodow/realtime/operation/impl/CollaborativeTransformer.java#L117 > > >On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 11:41 PM, Michael MacFadden < >michael.macfad...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> He

Re: An Open Source implementation of Google Drive Realtime API

2014-07-08 Thread Michael MacFadden
Most of us are still around! We lurk :-) On 7/8/14, 9:09 AM, "Andrew Kaplanov" wrote: >Looks like Apache Wave community still alive! >I thought everyone had died ... > > >2014-07-08 21:41 GMT+06:00 Michael MacFadden >: > >> Hello, >> >> I took

Re: An Open Source implementation of Google Drive Realtime API

2014-07-08 Thread Michael MacFadden
Hello, I took a look at some of the code. I see where the code implements some transformation functions (for OT), but I do not see where something like a Transformation Control Algorithm is implemented. How do you determine which operations need to be transformed against which other operations?

Re: What's wrong with download links fro WIAB?

2014-01-18 Thread Michael MacFadden
No worries. I will just add a banner at the top that says that these links are pending the upcoming release. On 1/18/14, 1:14 PM, "Yuri Z" wrote: >I think I did, didn't notice there were some more changes. Sorry. > > >On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 11:10 PM, Michael

Re: What's wrong with download links fro WIAB?

2014-01-18 Thread Michael MacFadden
Did some one publish the site? I made these changes and committed them (for the download links), but I didn¹t publish the changes to the production site. On 1/18/14, 1:07 PM, "Yuri Z" wrote: >You can get the sources as described here: >http://incubator.apache.org/wave/source-code.html >And then

Re: Write access to the Wave Wiki

2013-12-25 Thread Michael MacFadden
Done. On 12/25/13, 11:22 AM, "Michael MacFadden" wrote: >Yuri, > >I am pretty sure you are already an Admin. I will add Ali also. > >~Michael > >On 12/25/13, 11:21 AM, "Yuri Z" wrote: > >>Michael, can you please add me and Ali as admins to W

Re: Web Site Updates (Mainly Downloads)

2013-12-25 Thread Michael MacFadden
Oh yeahŠ http://wave.staging.apache.org/wave/downloads.html ~Michael From: Michael MacFadden Date: Wednesday, December 25, 2013 at 2:35 PM To: "wave-dev@incubator.apache.org" Subject: Web Site Updates (Mainly Downloads) All, I started updating the web site with a downloads s

Web Site Updates (Mainly Downloads)

2013-12-25 Thread Michael MacFadden
All, I started updating the web site with a downloads section for when we make our release. I started simple and followed the basic instructions for a mirrored distribution. The main points were that you are supposed to use the mirror script for the main artifacts but to use the apache servers o

Re: Write access to the Wave Wiki

2013-12-25 Thread Michael MacFadden
Yuri, I am pretty sure you are already an Admin. I will add Ali also. ~Michael On 12/25/13, 11:21 AM, "Yuri Z" wrote: >Michael, can you please add me and Ali as admins to Wiki and Jira? Cause >we >need backup in case you are not available. > > > >On Wed, D

Re: Write access to the Wave Wiki

2013-12-25 Thread Michael MacFadden
Raphael, I will add you now! ~Michael On 12/25/13, 1:04 AM, "Raphael Bircher" wrote: >Hi all > >It is possible to get write access to the wave wiki? My nick on the Wiki >is rbircher. I want to update the build instructions. > >Greetings Raphael

Re: Current Release Status

2013-12-22 Thread Michael MacFadden
Ok that makes sense. I will start working on the downloads section. I would like to get back in to coding after the release is done. Also potentially reviving the maven build. But for now, I think working on the web site will help let you all focus on code and release. So that is what I will d

Re: Current Release Status

2013-12-22 Thread Michael MacFadden
elease to do with the build-script, and licensing tweaks >back in to master. (As they have diverged again a bit). I think this >is best done after RC5. >P.P.S. Since you disappeared for a bit, we have migrated fully to Git! > >On 22 December 2013 20:53, Michael MacFadden > wrote

Current Release Status

2013-12-22 Thread Michael MacFadden
All, It¹s been a while since I have been able to contribute to the project. I would like to re-engage. To that end, I was wondering where we are with the process of making a release. Could some one summarize where we are at? Thanks ~Michael

Re: Incubation status

2013-12-01 Thread Michael MacFadden
I would still be more than happy to press through the mavenization, but it seemed like people were some what against the idea until we got the release out the door historically. Thoughts? On 12/1/13, 5:37 PM, "Frank R." wrote: >It'll get slim once mavenized. > > >On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 6:06 AM,

Re: Setting up Wave for client development (my experience setting up on WindowsXP)

2013-12-01 Thread Michael MacFadden
What is your wiki username? On 12/1/13, 5:25 PM, "Thomas Wrobel" wrote: >Id be happy too...but I dont know how ;) >Logged in, but I dont think I have editing rights (or I am just missing an >obvious button). >-- >For the ant, do I just go for the route (that is the "wave" directory >rather then

Re: Why does nobody vote on the release? (was: Fwd: Re: [VOTE] Release Wave 0.4 based on RC4)

2013-09-12 Thread Michael MacFadden
Hello, I actually haven't seen the vote. In fact. Looking at my email I see a grand total of about 15 emails on my entire gmail account since mid September. I don't see the original vote email, nor the email I see forward below. When was the vote. I would like to go look back and ensure I am

Re: Help me test algorithm performance

2013-08-09 Thread Michael MacFadden
I am in! On 8/9/13 12:27 PM, "John Blossom" wrote: >Would love to help! > >All the best, > >John Blossom > >email: jblos...@gmail.com >phone: 203.293.8511 >google+: https://google.com/+JohnBlossom > > >On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Joseph Gentle wrote: > >> tldr; I need some volunteers to col

Re: Apache Wave Hangout - Link to Episode One

2013-08-01 Thread Michael MacFadden
All, Glad to see we got this ball rolling. I wish I could have participated. I plan to participate in the next round of discussions. Some follow up thoughts. 1) On the OT, I think we should put up a wiki page and start listing some options and pro's and con's. 2) On the product vs platform.

Re: Delving into OT

2013-07-29 Thread Michael MacFadden
he best, > >John Blossom > >email: jblos...@gmail.com >phone: 203.293.8511 >google+: https://google.com/+JohnBlossom > > >On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Michael MacFadden < >michael.macfad...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Looks like there were some more vot

Re: Delving into OT

2013-07-25 Thread Michael MacFadden
>> community-wide access, that can help. >> >> >> >> Best Regards, >> >> >> >> John Blossom >> >> President >> >> Shore Communications Inc. >> >> >> >> where content, technology and people meet. (S

Re: Reminder: it should happen on-list (regarding upcoming Google Hangout)

2013-07-25 Thread Michael MacFadden
I am on board with this 100%. We just always need to temper that by making sure there is still visibility on these lists, as mentioned. I would be willing to install a wave server at work that should be persistent (always on). On 7/25/13 7:00 PM, "John Blossom" wrote: >Yes, Joseph, the goal is

Re: Delving into OT

2013-07-23 Thread Michael MacFadden
.8511 > fax: 203.663.8259 > twitter: jblossom <https://twitter.com/jblossom> > google+: google.com/+JohnBlossom > LinkedIn: John Blossom <http://www.linkedin.com/in/johnblossom> > facebook: John Blossom > skype: jblossom > > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Michael

Re: Delving into OT

2013-07-23 Thread Michael MacFadden
gt;> >>>> Ali >>>> >>>> On 17 July 2013 15:33, John Blossom wrote: >>>> > Great, Michael, find a date that works for you that seems to match >>>>with >>>> > others' interests and I will be glad to arrange for this. We can >

Re: Delving into OT

2013-07-17 Thread Michael MacFadden
I am definitely interested. I will check my schedule for next week. ~Michael On 7/16/13 11:02 AM, "John Blossom" wrote: >That was my thought, also. ApacheWavers, please respond with some avails >calibrated to UT+1 for this week and next week. Time to get this party >started! My L,A. project is

Re: A New Committer

2013-07-08 Thread Michael MacFadden
My two cents on the protocol site would be that we should create a section on the apache site and/or wiki dedicated to protocols. The waveprotocol.org domain could point to that. On 7/8/13 7:53 AM, "John Blossom" wrote: >Ali, >Thanks so much, thoughts below. Best, John > >On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at

Re: John's Wiki Permissions

2013-06-28 Thread Michael MacFadden
ian Grobmeier >> wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Angus Turner >>> wrote: >>>> Hey Michael, >>>> Wondering if its possible to give someone else admin to the wiki so >>>> you don't have to do it all the time... >>&g

John's Wiki Permissions

2013-06-27 Thread Michael MacFadden
John, I have given you wiki permissions! ~Michael

Re: Joining as a Mentor

2013-06-25 Thread Michael MacFadden
We are using confluence currently. On 6/25/13 8:23 AM, "Upayavira" wrote: >What wiki? Do we have one? If not, I can get one set up. We have a >choice of MoinMoin or Confluence. > >Upayavira > >On Tue, Jun 25, 2013, at 04:12 PM, John Blossom wrote: >> Thank you! Glad to have your help. >> >> BTW

Re: Joining as a Mentor

2013-06-25 Thread Michael MacFadden
John, If you have a username on confluence, then I can give you permissions. ~Michael On 6/25/13 8:12 AM, "John Blossom" wrote: >Thank you! Glad to have your help. > >BTW, how does one add oneself to be an editor of the wiki? Anyone? Thanks. >John Blossom > >On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 5:01 AM, Ch

Re: Delving into OT

2013-06-24 Thread Michael MacFadden
See comments inline. On 6/24/13 1:06 PM, "Joseph Gentle" wrote: >I want to start the discussion around what OT algorithms to use. This >is going to get technical. This is not a bug. Please ask simple but >tangential questions (like how does wave's current crypto system >work?) in a new thread in

Re: Delving into OT

2013-06-24 Thread Michael MacFadden
I will respond to this section by section in a bit. However my general comment is that there is a lot to digest here and I think we need to start putting this stuff in a wiki page(s). I think it will get buried here. I think we might need individual pages on each protocol idea. And the a pro/c

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache Wave Sub Committees

2013-06-23 Thread Michael MacFadden
jump >through before making meaningful changes to the code. Eg, if Ali and >Yuri decided they didn't like GYP, they shouldn't need permission from >anyone to fix it. And I also don't want non-committers telling them >not to. > >So I guess, I'm happy to form comm

[DISCUSS] Apache Wave Sub Committees

2013-06-23 Thread Michael MacFadden
nd if there is interest in supporting this model. Regards, Michael MacFadden http://www.macfadden.org

Re: IRC discussion on P2P waving

2013-06-22 Thread Michael MacFadden
p with is a >> protocol that is fundamentally P2P but which interacts with servers as >> ultra-efficient UI-less peers equipped with some super-powers and >>services >> that may not be present in the P2P domain persistently. Call it p2p2P, >>so >> to speak. Joh

Re: Demo Server

2013-06-22 Thread Michael MacFadden
t;> see about a VM at Apache. >> >> Upayavira >> >> On Fri, Jun 21, 2013, at 11:38 PM, Michael MacFadden wrote: >> > Yes the point would be to get federation up and running. An >>providing a >> > place where we can deploy our new OT containers th

Re: IRC discussion on P2P waving

2013-06-21 Thread Michael MacFadden
MY humble opinion on the P2P issue is as follows. I think if we develop algorithms that can work in a P2P mode, then we can also support a client/server architecture as well by just controlling who the peers talk to. I think the problem with wave was not the client server architecture, but rather

Re: Issue with Eclipse project

2013-06-21 Thread Michael MacFadden
So that's two reasons to push the switch to maven in before the release. Do we want to do that? It will solve the Jars issue to. ~Michael On 6/21/13 4:12 PM, "Upayavira" wrote: >Switching to Maven would give us mvn eclipse:eclipse which would >generate these files for us. We could do the same

Re: Demo Server

2013-06-21 Thread Michael MacFadden
s? > > >Either way, thanks for the efforts. > > >On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 12:20 AM, Michael MacFadden < >michael.macfad...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> All, >> >> As soon as we have a release, I am going to put the stable release on >>two >> serv

Demo Server

2013-06-21 Thread Michael MacFadden
All, As soon as we have a release, I am going to put the stable release on two servers. One will be my personal server. Another one will be a server hosted by my company. I think we we have a couple environments up and running it will help. Also, I may be able to set up some sandboxes where we

Welcome (Back) Joseph Gentle

2013-06-21 Thread Michael MacFadden
Wavers, Please welcome Joseph Gentle as an active Apache Wave Committer. Joseph has been with the project since the beginning in some for or another and has been active in wave like projects for the last three years. Joseph has now become a full and active committer and we are thrilled to have h

Re: Joining as a Mentor

2013-06-21 Thread Michael MacFadden
Sounds great to me. On 6/21/13 2:09 PM, "Pratik Paranjape" wrote: >+1 > >And I thought you were already a mentor for Wave! I am sure it wasn't only >me. > >Welcome. > > >On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 1:45 AM, Joseph Gentle wrote: > >> Sounds good to me. [+1] >> >> Welcome :) >> >> -Joseph >> On 21 Ju

Re: IRC discussion on P2P waving

2013-06-21 Thread Michael MacFadden
2p file sharing is too casual system to pick up from for our > use case. > > >>> >>> *8) Identifying participants (3 parts)* >>> Pure p2p means many peers don't have a n...@centralized-server.com user >>> handle, so an alternative has to be used. &g

Re: Feedback from Incubator Vote

2013-06-21 Thread Michael MacFadden
True, I would hate to see us inject ivy if we know we are going to just switch to maven. ~Michael On 6/21/13 4:34 AM, "Christian Grobmeier" wrote: >If I remember correctly, there is a maven transition nearly completed. >Ivy is a good option, but if maven is already done, why not use that? > >O

Re: IRC discussion on P2P waving

2013-06-21 Thread Michael MacFadden
We should create a section for these topics in the wiki in some sort of design space. ~Michael On Jun 21, 2013, at 6:06 AM, John Blossom wrote: > Bruno, > > Thanks, this is an excellent summary. It helps me to get the gist of things > more clearly. > > On the P2P latency, I don't think that

Re: "Project leads", "earning merit", Commit-then-review

2013-06-19 Thread Michael MacFadden
I somewhat agree with Yuri on this. I think for the experiments section we should not require code reviews. I think the code reviews have been very helpful for people to collaborate and learn the existing codebase and has kept it from introducing a lot of instabilities. I would note that almost

Re: A Very Wavey Plan (P2P!)

2013-06-19 Thread Michael MacFadden
quickly be >self selecting. > >Upayavira > >On Wed, Jun 19, 2013, at 10:11 PM, Joseph Gentle wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Michael MacFadden >> wrote: >> >>To start, I want to build a generic P2P OT container. This is a simple >> >>wr

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