On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Jonathan Barker <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> You've been too active with technical issues on the list to be labeled a
> troll... unless Rob has a split personality and you are the side that
> actually knows something. Hmmm. An interesting email address, BT
HAHA... This honestly sounds like words comming out of Satan's mouth...
Wait a minute, I've heard that somewhere... "Needful Things" by Steven King.
Any movie fans out there? Robbie is emerging as Leland Gaunt driving
that nice old black Mercedes into the quiet town of Castle Rock...
Leland Gaun
Expressing dissent is not trolling. Sure one could argue that what
constitutes trolling is subjective, but almost any reasonable person can
discern when the line has been crossed. Francis is a lying mischievous
fool that periodically chimes in in hopes of pissing off users, or
scaring off newbies.
nko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 2:17 PM
> To: Tapestry users
> Subject: Re: AW: AW: Getting Answers on the User List
>
> I hope after reading my post you won't add me to this page -
> http://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/Tapestry5Trolls
> I really wan
I hope after reading my post you won't add me to this page -
http://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/Tapestry5Trolls
I really want to defend Rob :-) Since some of his points are real problems
of Tapestry.
I will say it again: backward compatibility.
Of course major releases shouldn't be compatible, i.e. 1.
Rob Smeets wrote:
Left me alone, Tapestry should be kicked from Apache because it's destroying
it's image.
If it was in my power, YOU would be kicked from Apache and all their m/l.
Chris, I see you constantly linking me to others. Who is that Francis? I
hope he/she (since that name sounds fem
hey Rob,
if your intentions are this honest, I mean you care for the newbies, and so
on, why not start up your own blog, like Joel on Software, and spread your
ghospels there about the ultimate truth? you don't like Tapestry, that's it.
Ok, you've been heard. What else you want?
cheers,
Janos
a T
On 4/17/08, Chris Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Rob Smeets wrote:
> > Chris,
> > 1. Every Tapestry major release is backward incompatible with previous
> > releases.
> >
>
> This is public knowledge and documented on the Tapestry website (5 not
> compatible with 4).
Howard has stated
>
> 1. Every Tapestry major release is backward incompatible with previous
> releases.
Releases of many frameworks are incompatible with each other. The change
from 3 to 4 was minor
and with the change from 4 to 5, one can still use the same HTML templates
and do a fairly good upgrade.
Versi
>
> I want you to take a close look at the following points I've been making
> and
> tell me which one is a misinformation.
>
> 1. Every Tapestry major release is backward incompatible with previous
> releases.
That's true and really inconvenient. On the other hand I also complain about
framewor
Chris only pinpointed your former offends and was so kind to translate
the type of it with respect. He was AFAICS not digging into what you
repeatedly post as facts to list.
So, Rob, we got your points [1-4]. Thank You.
And now would you just be so kind and leave us so we can happily close
th
Ok, now I know you don't care about those issues. But I know these are
issues many evaluating a framework would care to consider as part of their
decision factors. I don't know what you are building with Tapestry and don't
know for who. I can be 100% sure though it's not a serious stuff for a
serio
Rob Smeets wrote:
> Chris,
>
> Some of your quotes were made by me but others not by me. To make things
> easier for you I've copied my previous post for you. Be bold and answer
> them, ok. Don't be afraid or shy. At least I won't bite you. There we go:
>
> I want you to take a close look at the
Chris,
Some of your quotes were made by me but others not by me. To make things
easier for you I've copied my previous post for you. Be bold and answer
them, ok. Don't be afraid or shy. At least I won't bite you. There we go:
I want you to take a close look at the following points I've been makin
Francis (as Rob):
http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-AW%3A-Getting-Answers-on-the-User-List-p16679523.html
"...not only are high profile Tapestry
users abandoning Tapestry, high profile sites which were using Tapestry are
also ditching Tapestry..." - *FUD*
http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-Getting-Answers-on-
>
> This person is beyond a troll and has
> gone to a concerted effort to spread FUD and mis-information
Petros,
I want you to take a close look at the following points I've been making and
tell me which one is a misinformation.
1. Every Tapestry major release is backward incompatible with pre
Check this wiki page: http://wiki.apache.org/tapestry/Tapestry5Trolls,
and then consider reporting him to the relevant abuse departments. A
couple of us now know a good deal about who this person is, and I am
hoping that he will consider the reputation of his actual identity and
back off.
chris
L
Ignoring trolls works well with one off messages trying to get old arguments
started but this case is different. This person is beyond a troll and has
gone to a concerted effort to spread FUD and mis-information to the point of
damaging a lot of good work.
I think the people that have politely re
I don't mean to be rude but really...
WHY DO YOU GUYS EVEN REPLY TO THIS GUY
Can't you see how much fun he is having.
By replying to a discussion he is part of, I feel I am his puppet and my job
is to keep entertaining him. This is what we are all doing by reploying to
him. I am sure I am going
Rob your English is by no question admirable but you drove quite
to far. I like all those Tapestry folks - special thanks to the core
team and Howard from me. Thanks to their affords Web-Development
Is fun again.
So please stop insulting them.
Rob Smeets wrote:
> Like those reading now, I'm sme
Great! Thanks for that link Michael, I was looking for that.
chris
Michael Gerzabek wrote:
> well if you don't have gmail you can also use
>
> https://mail.google.com/support/bin/request.py?contact_type=abuse_phishing
>
>
> Links to Program Policies and Terms of Use are included.
>
> Michael
>
>
Rob Smeets wrote:
Like those reading now, I'm smelling something fishy here.
Yes, seems to come from inside your pants...
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Great! Thanks Michael I was looking for that.
chris
Michael Gerzabek wrote:
> well if you don't have gmail you can also use
>
> https://mail.google.com/support/bin/request.py?contact_type=abuse_phishing
>
>
> Links to Program Policies and Terms of Use are included.
>
> Michael
>
> Davor Hrg schri
Awesome! Violating CS101?! Classic! Dude, you should get your own
show on comedy central.
Christian.
On 15-Apr-08, at 06:34 , Rob Smeets wrote:
Oh, Mr. Lewis Ship, so you're musical. All the musicians I know who
program
are forward thinking people and very talented. They don't go and do
well if you don't have gmail you can also use
https://mail.google.com/support/bin/request.py?contact_type=abuse_phishing
Links to Program Policies and Terms of Use are included.
Michael
Davor Hrg schrieb:
did it :)
take a random post from rob and do it also if you have gamil acc.
all the pos
did it :)
take a random post from rob and do it also if you have gamil acc.
all the posts are offensive more or less
https://gmail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=29381
Davor Hrg
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Michael Gerzabek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> +1
>
> Chris Lewis schrieb:
+1
Chris Lewis schrieb:
I think it's about time we report this jackass to google or even the
FTC. Apart from being a bothersome embarrassment to humanity, he's most
likely in violation of google's terms of service as well as at least one
law.
Rob Smeets wrote:
Oh, Mr. Lewis Ship, so you're
I think it's about time we report this jackass to google or even the
FTC. Apart from being a bothersome embarrassment to humanity, he's most
likely in violation of google's terms of service as well as at least one
law.
Rob Smeets wrote:
> Oh, Mr. Lewis Ship, so you're musical. All the musicians I
Blimey, they really are out to get you Rob!
Run, run like the wind...
> -Original Message-
> From: Rob Smeets [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 15 April 2008 11:27
> To: Tapestry users
> Subject: Re: AW: Getting Answers on the User List
>
> Oh, Jesse help me here. Yo
Oh, Mr. Lewis Ship, so you're musical. All the musicians I know who program
are forward thinking people and very talented. They don't go and do a
re-work after they've made a release. You've been violating even CS101. I'm
very surprised.
Your friendly,
Rob
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Howard
Oh, Jesse help me here. You wrote that you tend to delete my emails without
reading them but you are obviously replying to one of them. Like those
reading now, I'm smelling something fishy here. Or did your slave master
Howard come to drag and force you to reply? It seems, like the other high
profi
Yeah, Guitar Hero III is stupidly hard on Hard. I played Guitar Hero II
on Expert but had to drop down to Hard on III. Took me, what, three
months to beat it - the last guitar battle is a [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Now working on Expert, but kinda stuck about halfway through on The
Metal. :P
And yeah
I'm kind of bogged down in Guitar Hero 3; Hard is just too hard. It
needs a level between medium and hard where you use the orange button
only occasionally, and just do more chords, hammer-ons and layoffs.
I thought while I was recovering last month (I had some minor elective
surgery) that I'd fi
Just very busy with work and playing video games. (Tapestry has
improved my lifestyle in this area immensely )
I usually spend more time writing code and learning than communicating
with humans, so it's easy to get lost in that sometimes.
(sorry if you've felt ignored, I tend to delete your pr
Thanks for the good user (developer) stories in this thread, will be
good to put them in the main tapestry web site, and thanks Rob "The
Grumpy Dwarf" that unintentionally help these stories to emerge, and
show the people behind this list.
César.
--
Again,
will you back up any of your claims with something technical,
and stop whining ?
you are not a wicket user and you know too little about it
to comapre it to tapestry.
Why do you keep bringinng wicket up again, and again ?
Why don't you reply to any user mail to help, or ask for help
like
Our resident troll is absolutely hilarious!
On 14/04/2008, at 8:41 PM, Rob Smeets wrote:
Howard,
Please stop throwing a dark blanket on me condemning me. Why not
pick on the
points I made head on and defend yourself? Wel,
I'm not surprised you're not doing it because you are not destined
And please allow me to also mention that, not only are high profile Tapestry
users abandoning Tapestry, high profile sites which were using Tapestry are
also ditching Tapestry. An example is theserverside.com which whacked
Tapestry like a baseball from their servers and replaced it with another
web
Howard,
Please stop throwing a dark blanket on me condemning me. Why not pick on the
points I made head on and defend yourself? Wel,
I'm not surprised you're not doing it because you are not destined to take
challenges head on.
Is it not true Tapestry's popularity has diminished over the last coup
There are so many interesting replies over here. As for me I found this list
is very interesting. This is a great place where you can find a lot useful
information. Also if you can ask right question definitely you can get right
answer which is great. Anyway as Java developer my first technology wa
Howard Lewis Ship schrieb:
The reality is that right now I'm sitting in an office at Formos and
every single person in the building is deriving their living directly
from Tapestry and the effort I've put into it over the last seven
years. And that's just the company I work for; Over the last few
only one word: cool
2008/4/11, Howard Lewis Ship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> My father in law is a brilliant marketer; he has this incredible
> ability to pick up the jargon and terminology of whatever he's working
> with. I remember picking him up from the airport once and he's
> chatting about Tap
My father in law is a brilliant marketer; he has this incredible
ability to pick up the jargon and terminology of whatever he's working
with. I remember picking him up from the airport once and he's
chatting about Tapestry and Spring and all that ... and he really
doesn't know what it all is (nor
Martin Kersten wrote:
I start to like him. What a nice smile this little post put on my face.
I like him. He is like the guy who let the sun stay a bit higher if you
know what I mean. :-)
You lucky !!!
I, on the opposite, just hope someone would 'accidentally' pass over him
on a 16-wheeler.
I start to like him. What a nice smile this little post put on my facec.
I like him. He is like the guy who let the sun stay a bit higher if you
know what I mean. :-)
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