Rob Smeets wrote: > Chris, > > Some of your quotes were made by me but others not by me. To make things > easier for you I've copied my previous post for you. Be bold and answer > them, ok. Don't be afraid or shy. At least I won't bite you. There we go: > > I want you to take a close look at the following points I've been making and > tell me which one is a misinformation. > > 1. Every Tapestry major release is backward incompatible with previous > releases. > This is public knowledge and documented on the Tapestry website (5 not compatible with 4). > 2. High profile users and commiters have fled Tapestry to other frameworks > such as Wicket. Namely, Kent Tong, Geoff Longman, the creator of Spindle, > etc. I could name some more. Should I do it? > I don't know them, and I am not motivated by their decisions. If you think a decision is worth following simply because it was made by a high-profile person, perhaps you should reevaluate your personal criteria. > 3. Tapestry has been ditched by www.theserverside.com and replaced with > another webframework. > Fantastic. I'm sure that's publicly documented there. > 4. In 7 years of existense of Tapestry, Howard has only been able to train > just a 100 Tapestry users. > I do not care, and I doubt people building their T5 apps with the ease they are care either. > What is the misinformation here, Chris? Don't avoid any of them or dilute > them with anything else, please, else I would label you a big coward, which > so far hasn't crossed my mind you are. > > Looking forawrd to your bold answers. > I have given them. > Yours friendly, > > Rob > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Chris Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > >> Francis (as Rob): >> >> >> http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-AW%3A-Getting-Answers-on-the-User-List-p16679523.html >> "...not only are high profile Tapestry >> users abandoning Tapestry, high profile sites which were using Tapestry >> are >> also ditching Tapestry..." - *FUD* >> >> >> http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-Getting-Answers-on-the-User-List-p16634215.html >> "...Tapestry is now just another >> dead horse, I'm sorry..." - *Misinformation* >> >> >> http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-T5-%285.0.11%29---ready-for-production-deployment-p16348763.html >> "I have 2 favorite adjectives about Tapestry 5: Over-engineerd and >> Volatile!!' - *FUD* >> >> http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-How-is-T5-tutorial--p16270907.html >> "Go grab Wicket of GWT. It's better documented and questions like what you >> asked won't refer you to source code but to a well documented examples. >> Above all the users of those lists are far, far more friendly." - *SPAM* >> >> http://www.nabble.com/Re%3A-How-is-T5-tutorial--p16275158.html >> "There we go again, when someone raises a legitimate concern he is easily >> labeled a Troll" - *Misinformation*. You have no questions, you seek to >> incite anger. >> >> "Again, this proves how arrogant >> and unfriendly Tapestry mailing list members are." - *FUD + >> Misinformation* >> >> http://www.nabble.com/Tapestry-at-my-company-p16122861.html >> - *FUD* - This entire situation is probably a lie. If not, validate it. >> Provide links to the project company, and personally email me a >> technical contact that I can privately consult and verify. >> >> http://www.nabble.com/Newbie-Tapestry-p15893688.html >> "I googled and also learnt there is Tapestry 6 in the works which >> would also be a whole new beast not compatible with all previous Tapestry >> versions." - *Misinformation*. You did no such thing, and you are a >> despicable liar. >> >> >> Rob Smeets wrote: >> >>>> This person is beyond a troll and has >>>> gone to a concerted effort to spread FUD and mis-information >>>> >>>> >>> Petros, >>> >>> I want you to take a close look at the following points I've been making >>> >> and >> >>> tell me which one is a misinformation. >>> >>> 1. Every Tapestry major release is backward incompatible with previous >>> releases. >>> 2. High profile users and commiters have fled Tapestry to other >>> >> frameworks >> >>> such as Wicket. Namely, Kent Tong, Geoff Longman, etc. I could name some >>> more. Should I do it? >>> 3. Tapestry has been ditched by Theserverside.com and replaced with >>> >> another >> >>> webframework. >>> 4. In 7 years of existense of Tapestry Howard has only been able to >>> >> train >> >>> just a 100 Tapestry users. >>> >>> What is the misinformation here, Petros? >>> >>> Yours friendly, >>> >>> Rob >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 17/04/2008, Petros Petrou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> I don't mean to be rude but really... >>>>> WHY DO YOU GUYS EVEN REPLY TO THIS GUY >>>>> Can't you see how much fun he is having. >>>>> >>>>> By replying to a discussion he is part of, I feel I am his puppet and >>>>> >> my >> >>>>> job >>>>> is to keep entertaining him. This is what we are all doing by >>>>> >> reploying >> >>>> to >>>> >>>> >>>>> him. I am sure I am going to get some "smart" reply from him after I >>>>> >>>>> >>>> post >>>> >>>> >>>>> this BUT I will resist in getting dragged into a waste of time >>>>> >>>>> >>>> discussion >>>> >>>> >>>>> because I am extremely busy writting code with one of the best web >>>>> frameworks out there and I have worked with JSP, Servlet, JSF, Struts, >>>>> Webworks, Spring WebFlow, Tapestry 3, Tapestry 4 .......... (I am >>>>> considering T5 to be a new framework which is why I no longer worry >>>>> >>>>> >>>> about >>>> >>>> >>>>> backwards compatibility) >>>>> >>>>> Please don't get me wrong. I don't mean to patronise the people that >>>>> >>>>> >>>> reply >>>> >>>> >>>>> to him. In fact few of you guys that replied to his discussions >>>>> >> already >> >>>>> helped me out through this forum by replying to my posts and I am very >>>>> thankful of this BUT please.... let's keep this forum clean from >>>>> destructions and clean from emotional counter productive arguments and >>>>> let's >>>>> stop providing free entertainment. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Petros >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Martin Kersten-2 wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Rob your English is by no question admirable but you drove quite >>>>>> to far. I like all those Tapestry folks - special thanks to the core >>>>>> team and Howard from me. Thanks to their affords Web-Development >>>>>> Is fun again. >>>>>> >>>>>> So please stop insulting them. >>>>>> >>>>>> Rob Smeets wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Like those reading now, I'm smelling something fishy here. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> View this message in context: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >> http://www.nabble.com/Getting-Answers-on-the-User-List-tp16595432p16737253.html >> >>>>> Sent from the Tapestry - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >> -- >> http://thegodcode.net >> >> >> > >
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