Again, will you back up any of your claims with something technical, and stop whining ?
you are not a wicket user and you know too little about it to comapre it to tapestry. Why do you keep bringinng wicket up again, and again ? Why don't you reply to any user mail to help, or ask for help like real users ? I'm would ignore you just like jesse, but someone must mark your remarks as they are: TROLL, so nobody is mistaken when reading these threads. Davor Hrg On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Rob Smeets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And please allow me to also mention that, not only are high profile > Tapestry > users abandoning Tapestry, high profile sites which were using Tapestry > are > also ditching Tapestry. An example is theserverside.com which whacked > Tapestry like a baseball from their servers and replaced it with another > webframework, maybe Wicket, I'm not sure. This because they have a > business > model that looked forward into the future. Their model wasn't compatible > with Tapestry, which would have meant in every major release they would > have > to rewrite their frontend all over again and again. > > BTW, why is Jesse Kuhnert not participating anymore in the forum? Is he > going to be the next to deflect? > > Yours friendly, > > Rob > > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Rob Smeets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Howard, > > > > Please stop throwing a dark blanket on me condemning me. Why not pick on > > the points I made head on and defend yourself? Wel, > > I'm not surprised you're not doing it because you are not destined to > take > > challenges head on. > > Is it not true Tapestry's popularity has diminished over the last couple > > of years or so? Is it not true high profile users have > > fled away from Tapestry like flies. If you dispute this I can even name > > more names. That within 7 years you've > > trained only 100 developers says a lot about the status of Tapestry. I > > would have expected more than a 1,000 within the seven years, > > if you say Tapestry is one of the best. I know the mass used to follow > > Tapestry. But the unfortunate thing is at the release of > > any major version, you punch them hard in the stomach and then they flee > > from the schock and pain. At a point in time your > > ego became inflated to an explosive point. And as we all know, from any > > bubble there is a burst. That's why you're in the current > > state. > > The solution to all your current travails? Maybe you should rename > > Tapestry 5, to maybe Wicketstry, because it > > resembles Wicket so much. By doing so all the misery and the hooplas > about > > backward incompatibilty would end and you'll have > > your peace of mind. > > > > Howard, I'm only a messenger and as the saying goes, don't persecute the > > messenger. > > > > Yours friendly, > > > > Rob > > > > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Howard Lewis Ship <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > My father in law is a brilliant marketer; he has this incredible > > > ability to pick up the jargon and terminology of whatever he's working > > > with. I remember picking him up from the airport once and he's > > > chatting about Tapestry and Spring and all that ... and he really > > > doesn't know what it all is (nor would anyone expect him to), but he's > > > able to use the correct words at the correct time and sound like he > > > knows how everything fits together. It's actually quite impressive. > > > > > > I kind of picture Rob as a dark mirror image of this; perhaps he's a > > > capable engineer with a weird streak and way too much time on his > > > hands, but based on just the postings here, my picture is of a > > > socially awkward 15 year old with acne (and maybe a stutter) who is > > > capable of stringing together words and phrases without really > > > understanding any of it. "Rob" gets a sense of power by trying to > > > "tweak" myself and the Tapestry community. Very sad ... I went though > > > a socially awkward stage (say, from age 12 to maybe 30 :-) ) but I > > > don't remember ever having this kind of destructive, lizard-brain > > > aspect. > > > > > > Mailing lists and blogs are not the real world; anyone who has the > > > time and obsessive energy to post troll comments the way "Rob" does > > > has pretty much discounted his voice. People whose opinion counts, > > > those who have something valuable to say or have actually accomplished > > > something worthwhile, are WAY too busy to get into a verbal ping-pong > > > match with "Rob" here or on some other forum. In that respect, Rob is > > > a somewhat positive force in the Tapestry world ... by getting the ire > > > up of the many, many Tapestry users who love the framework and can't > > > stand to see it bashed. > > > > > > The reality is that right now I'm sitting in an office at Formos and > > > every single person in the building is deriving their living directly > > > from Tapestry and the effort I've put into it over the last seven > > > years. And that's just the company I work for; Over the last few > > > years, I've trained perhaps 100 developers at many different companies > > > on how to use Tapestry. I'm likely to double that number in the next > > > year ... and that's just the tiny tip of the iceberg of Tapestry users > > > I know about. I'm excited about what I'm doing now, and I'm excited > > > about everything we have planned going forward. > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Angelo Turetta > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> < > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote: > > > > Martin Kersten wrote: > > > > > > > > > I start to like him. What a nice smile this little post put on my > > > face. I > > > > like him. He is like the guy who let the sun stay a bit higher if > you > > > know > > > > what I mean. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > You lucky !!! > > > > <joking> > > > > I, on the opposite, just hope someone would 'accidentally' pass > over > > > him on > > > > a 16-wheeler. I'd do it myself, except I have no truck driving > > > license, and > > > > I won't happen to pass near Utrecht anytime soon :) > > > > </joking> > > > > > > > > What a pity it's always idiots that happen to have so much free > time. > > > I > > > > just barely manage to spare the time to read the lists I'm > interested > > > in, > > > > while he follows tapestry's just to insult Howard and crunch balls > to > > > all > > > > the others... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > > > > Von: Rob Smeets [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Freitag, > 11. > > > April > > > > 2008 16:34 > > > > > An: Tapestry users > > > > > Betreff: Re: Getting Answers on the User List > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Howard M. Lewis Ship > > > > > > Creator Apache Tapestry and Apache HiveMind > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > >
