My father in law is a brilliant marketer; he has this incredible
ability to pick up the jargon and terminology of whatever he's
working
with. I remember picking him up from the airport once and he's
chatting about Tapestry and Spring and all that ... and he really
doesn't know what it all is (nor would anyone expect him to), but
he's
able to use the correct words at the correct time and sound like he
knows how everything fits together. It's actually quite impressive.
I kind of picture Rob as a dark mirror image of this; perhaps he's a
capable engineer with a weird streak and way too much time on his
hands, but based on just the postings here, my picture is of a
socially awkward 15 year old with acne (and maybe a stutter) who is
capable of stringing together words and phrases without really
understanding any of it. "Rob" gets a sense of power by trying to
"tweak" myself and the Tapestry community. Very sad ... I went
though
a socially awkward stage (say, from age 12 to maybe 30 :-) ) but I
don't remember ever having this kind of destructive, lizard-brain
aspect.
Mailing lists and blogs are not the real world; anyone who has the
time and obsessive energy to post troll comments the way "Rob" does
has pretty much discounted his voice. People whose opinion counts,
those who have something valuable to say or have actually
accomplished
something worthwhile, are WAY too busy to get into a verbal ping-pong
match with "Rob" here or on some other forum. In that respect, Rob is
a somewhat positive force in the Tapestry world ... by getting the
ire
up of the many, many Tapestry users who love the framework and can't
stand to see it bashed.
The reality is that right now I'm sitting in an office at Formos and
every single person in the building is deriving their living directly
from Tapestry and the effort I've put into it over the last seven
years. And that's just the company I work for; Over the last few
years, I've trained perhaps 100 developers at many different
companies
on how to use Tapestry. I'm likely to double that number in the next
year ... and that's just the tiny tip of the iceberg of Tapestry
users
I know about. I'm excited about what I'm doing now, and I'm excited
about everything we have planned going forward.
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Angelo Turetta
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>
wrote:
Martin Kersten wrote:
I start to like him. What a nice smile this little post put on my
face. I
like him. He is like the guy who let the sun stay a bit higher if
you
know
what I mean. :-)
You lucky !!!
<joking>
I, on the opposite, just hope someone would 'accidentally' pass over
him on
a 16-wheeler. I'd do it myself, except I have no truck driving
license,
and
I won't happen to pass near Utrecht anytime soon :)
</joking>
What a pity it's always idiots that happen to have so much free
time. I
just barely manage to spare the time to read the lists I'm
interested
in,
while he follows tapestry's just to insult Howard and crunch balls
to
all
the others...
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Von: Rob Smeets [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Freitag, 11.
April
2008 16:34
An: Tapestry users
Betreff: Re: Getting Answers on the User List
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