There are so many interesting replies over here. As for me I found this list is very interesting. This is a great place where you can find a lot useful information. Also if you can ask right question definitely you can get right answer which is great. Anyway as Java developer my first technology was JSF. It was not an easy thing to use it especially when you don't have experience in different Java technologies. But after that I had an opportunity to try out Tapestry 4. After JSF it was not an easy framework. I mean at that time I even didn't know what Inversion of Control means as the result it was very hard to start. And later I had an opportunity to work with Spring (another IoC) and some things become clear for me (I mean HiveMind concepts). Anyway Tapestry 4 helped me understood better how JSF works. I know that for someone it sounds strange but if you look at any book about Tapestry4 or T5 you will found that the first thing each author tried to explain how to pass data from one page to another and how user can persist data on some page (e.g. @Persist). In JSF it's a bit tricky since JSF by default don't include such a useful thing but at the same time Myfaces Tomahawk provides additional component which does this work. And a few months ago I tried to use T5. What can I say it's amazing framework and you can build your applications very easy. Most of all I like such things: 1) T5 allow user to modify Java classes (related to your T5 app) without restarting app server. 2) No configuration stored in XML 3) Great error handling 4) Easy to create your own components. Of course, there are a lot of things to enhance. JSF 2.0 will include many T5 ideas is very great for T5. It is another proof that T5 is a great framework to develop web applications. But there is one challenge for beginners is that T5 is based on T5 IoC (which I personally think a good marriage) as the result if you want to use full power of T5 you need to understand IoC.
To Rob: I decided to highlight you because you are special person :-). If you feel that Howard has an ego then try to avoid it. To be honest how you can feel Howard's ego in this maillist. You can always ask right question and get right answers and you will never hit Howard's ego. But I must tell you if you don't know it yet that every person has an ego and even you :-). But of course, if you are working with Howard (which I'm sure is not true) then you have always an opportunity to be kind and respect Howard since he really changed the world of Java Web Application Frameworks. In other words stop this FUD. On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 9:59 PM, Michael Gerzabek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Howard Lewis Ship schrieb: > > > The reality is that right now I'm sitting in an office at Formos and > > every single person in the building is deriving their living directly > > from Tapestry and the effort I've put into it over the last seven > > years. And that's just the company I work for; Over the last few > > years, I've trained perhaps 100 developers at many different companies > > on how to use Tapestry. I'm likely to double that number in the next > > year ... and that's just the tiny tip of the iceberg of Tapestry users > > I know about. I'm excited about what I'm doing now, and I'm excited > > about everything we have planned going forward. > > > > > > And that's really a men with a vision. Kudos Howard!!! > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
