Re: Oracle Bad news JDK 6 will no longer be free which screws AOO usage

2012-12-14 Thread upscope
On Friday, December 14, 2012 11:34:44 AM Girvin R. Herr wrote: > upscope wrote: > > On Thursday, December 13, 2012 06:11:01 PM Girvin R. Herr wrote: > >> upscope wrote: > >> > >> > > > > > These client libs are available from the openSUSE repo's. Maybe slackware > > has something equal. > > >

Re: Oracle Bad news JDK 6 will no longer be free which screws AOO usage

2012-12-14 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Rod Lockwood wrote: > If they can find a way to charge for Java (maybe change the licensing for > Java 8) then they will do that. I think the latter is the most likely > scenario. So you now predict the future?. How much do you charge for each crystal ball reading

Re: Oracle Bad news JDK 6 will no longer be free which screws AOO usage

2012-12-14 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 7:30 PM, Rod Lockwood wrote: > I may be wrong about this, but now I have the impression that Oracle wants > nothing to do with anything that they cannot make money from. Yes, you are wrong. Oracle is continuing development on most FOSS projects including: OpenJDK (GPL Java

Re: Oracle Bad news JDK 6 will no longer be free which screws AOO usage

2012-12-14 Thread Rod Lockwood
My take on the Java situation is: Oracle stopped developing OpenOffice when they found out it was freeware. About the time I found out this I seem to remember reading an article that Oracle had gone through the courts because they wanted to charge for the use of Java. They lost, but were pr

Re: Oracle Bad news JDK 6 will no longer be free which screws AOO usage

2012-12-14 Thread Girvin R. Herr
upscope wrote: On Thursday, December 13, 2012 06:11:01 PM Girvin R. Herr wrote: upscope wrote: These client libs are available from the openSUSE repo's. Maybe slackware has something equal. [Code] rpm -qa |grep libmysqlclient libmysqlclient_r18-5.5.25a-102.1.x86_64 libmysqlc

Re: Oracle Bad news JDK 6 will no longer be free which screws AOO usage

2012-12-14 Thread upscope
On Thursday, December 13, 2012 06:11:01 PM Girvin R. Herr wrote: > upscope wrote: > > > > > I am running openSUSE 12.2 with LibreOffice 3.6.4 from LO website and > > LibreOffice 3.6.3 from openSUSE repo's with Java_7_0-openjdk from SuSE > > repo's with no issues. > > > > I do not use Base, I us

Re: Oracle Bad news JDK 6 will no longer be free which screws AOO usage

2012-12-13 Thread Girvin R. Herr
upscope wrote: I am running openSUSE 12.2 with LibreOffice 3.6.4 from LO website and LibreOffice 3.6.3 from openSUSE repo's with Java_7_0-openjdk from SuSE repo's with no issues. I do not use Base, I use MySQL, so I'm not sure about it. All other office items work. I am not sure about

Re: Oracle Bad news JDK 6 will no longer be free which screws AOO usage

2012-12-13 Thread upscope
On Thursday, December 13, 2012 02:19:10 PM Scooter C wrote: > Thanks Girvin, > > I run Windows 7x64 Home Premium. > AOO is the ONLY piece of my software that requires JRE 6. Thunderbird > (TB) seems to run OK without it, although its been squirrely for the > last few months (cause unknown). I'v

Re: Oracle Bad news JDK 6 will no longer be free which screws AOO usage

2012-12-13 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Girvin R. Herr wrote: > Fernando, > From my reading the postings on this forum, it is my understanding that > there are (were?) problems running Java7 and AOO/LO. Yes, I´ve seen those reports, but nothing was more specific than "Base runs slow on JRE7" or " "AOO c

Re: Oracle Bad news JDK 6 will no longer be free which screws AOO usage

2012-12-13 Thread Girvin R. Herr
Fernando Cassia wrote: Maybe it is time for AOO to either code for Java 7 or remove Java dependencies altogether. Keep in mind that AOO is not the only app that uses Java. Mozilla immediately comes to mind. They will most likely have to change also. Girvin Herr Why does people always f

Re: Oracle Bad news JDK 6 will no longer be free which screws AOO usage

2012-12-13 Thread Girvin R. Herr
Scooter, Keep in mind that unless you are using Base or the Accessibility features, you don't need Java to run OpenOffice (AOO) or LibreOffice (LO). I am not sure what TB needs Java for. I know some websites use it, since there are TB configuration options to disable certain Java features fo

Re: Oracle Bad news JDK 6 will no longer be free which screws AOO usage

2012-12-13 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 03:04:08PM -0500, TJ Frazier wrote: > >>AOO is the ONLY piece of my software that requires JRE 6. > > > >OpenOffice does not require JRE 6, it works fine with JRE 7 on Windows. > >In case it does not work for you, it's due to a bug with Java 7 that > >requires you to instal

Re: Oracle Bad news JDK 6 will no longer be free which screws AOO usage

2012-12-13 Thread TJ Frazier
On 12/13/2012 14:32, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 02:19:10PM -0500, Scooter C wrote: AOO is the ONLY piece of my software that requires JRE 6. OpenOffice does not require JRE 6, it works fine with JRE 7 on Windows. In case it does not work for you, it's due to a bug wi

Re: Oracle Bad news JDK 6 will no longer be free which screws AOO usage

2012-12-13 Thread Fernando Cassia
> Maybe it is time for AOO to either code for Java 7 or remove Java > dependencies altogether. > Keep in mind that AOO is not the only app that uses Java. Mozilla > immediately comes to mind. They will most likely have to change also. > Girvin Herr Why does people always feel the need to jump in

RE: Oracle Bad news JDK 6 will no longer be free which screws AOO usage

2012-12-13 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
From: Scooter C [mailto:scoo...@scootersdesk.com] Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 11:19 To: users@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Oracle Bad news JDK 6 will no longer be free which screws AOO usage Thanks Girvin, I run Windows 7x64 Home Premium. AOO is the ONLY piece of my software that

Re: Oracle Bad news JDK 6 will no longer be free which screws AOO usage

2012-12-13 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 02:19:10PM -0500, Scooter C wrote: > AOO is the ONLY piece of my software that requires JRE 6. OpenOffice does not require JRE 6, it works fine with JRE 7 on Windows. In case it does not work for you, it's due to a bug with Java 7 that requires you to install extra softwar

Re: Oracle Bad news JDK 6 will no longer be free which screws AOO usage

2012-12-13 Thread Scooter C
Thanks Girvin, I run Windows 7x64 Home Premium. AOO is the ONLY piece of my software that requires JRE 6. Thunderbird (TB) seems to run OK without it, although its been squirrely for the last few months (cause unknown). I've already installed two substitutes for the absolute failure of TB, b

Re: Oracle Bad news JDK 6 will no longer be free which screws AOO usage

2012-12-12 Thread Dale Erwin
It was my understanding that the only thing in OO that was dependent upon Java was the database engine (HSQLDB) which is coded 100% in Java. I used OS/2 and eComStation until I reached the point that I could not install it on my new hardware, and the OS/2 version of OOo worked just fine withou

Re: Oracle Bad news JDK 6 will no longer be free which screws AOO usage

2012-12-12 Thread Girvin R. Herr
Scooter C wrote: Why has this issue not been mentioned? last publicly available release of Oracle JDK 6 is to be released in *February, 2013*. This means that after February 19, 2013, all newsecurity updates <#>, patches and fixes for Java SE 6 and Java SE 5 will only be available through M

Re: Oracle Bad news JDK 6 will no longer be free which screws AOO usage

2012-12-12 Thread Josef Latt
What's about java 7? Am 12.12.2012 17:20, schrieb Scooter C: Why has this issue not been mentioned? last publicly available release of Oracle JDK 6 is to be released in *February, 2013*. This means that after February 19, 2013, all newsecurity updates <#>, patches and fixes for Java SE 6 and Ja