Thunderbird issue (OT).

2018-03-06 Thread William Mattison
Good morning, When I try to sign in to a (verizon) yahoo e-mail account via Thunderbird, it takes several seconds to get a response, then I often get this error message: -- Thunderbird The current operation on 'Inbox' did not succeed. The mail server for account [my e-mail account] responded

empty messages from fedora users list.

2018-03-14 Thread William Mattison
Good morning, Since March 08, I've received 11 messages from this list that appear empty, including 2 so far today. I have received a few (less) not empty, none today and 3 yesterday. What's causing this problem, and how do I fix it? My e-mail client is Thunderbird 52.5.2. I will occasional

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

2018-03-14 Thread William Mattison
h I did a "View source" on the most recent empty-looking message. Everything is there. The whole thing is 742 lines long. You want the top how many lines? Or how would I recognize the end of the header? What displays in the header area (below the list of messages, above where the me

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

2018-03-14 Thread William Mattison
Hi Samuel, Using the "View source" function, here between the lines of '=' is the header (copied and pasted): = X-Apparently-To: mattison.compu...@yahoo.com; Wed, 14 Mar 2018 11:45:33 + Return-Path: Received-SPF: pass (domain of lists.fedoraproject.org designates 209.132.181.2 as permi

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

2018-03-14 Thread William Mattison
> The header looks fine and there should be 33KB of content. When you > view source do you see the message body? yes. In "View source", I see 759 lines of stuff. But most looks like "meta-data", not message body that I would expect to see in the Thunderbird window. The first blank line is li

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

2018-03-14 Thread William Mattison
Patrick, I am using the "fedora HYPERKITTY" web interface for all my posts to this thread. But the e-mail address for my Fedora users list is a yahoo e-mail address. Bill. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

2018-03-14 Thread William Mattison
I saved the "View source" window contents as a text file. What is now the best way to get that file onto Fedora's paste bin? Last time I tried that (last summer), it didn't work well. Making the whole message available might be better than me trying to guess what would be helpful in diagnosin

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

2018-03-14 Thread William Mattison
ok, I figured out how to get the message into the Fedora paste site. It can be viewed here: "https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/LvQNrf-2pwpvnXbWWxOmow";. thanks, Bill. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an em

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

2018-03-14 Thread William Mattison
> I saved that [etc.] That does work. > ... Try closing ... cough gag cough cough choke gag cough On March 06, I started a thread titled "Thunderbird issue (OT).". I never saw any replies. The problem remains completely unsolved. Actually, it's now worse! I've experienced that probl

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

2018-03-15 Thread William Mattison
> What I was suggesting... KSysGuard shows that yahoo feeds data to Thunderbird in very teeny chunks. A message with an attached photo took about an hour to download yesterday. I also access my e-mail from multiple workstation accounts and operating systems. So some time ago, I set all my e-

Re: empty messages from fedora users list.

2018-03-16 Thread William Mattison
That worked. Thank-you Samuel. The log is here: "https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/07xQurGCBVjXYes1PUleiw"; I'll add that this bug is partially random. I only see the problem (and other problems) on messages with attachments. But the problem does not always show up on messages with attach

Re: Thunderbird issue (OT).

2018-03-16 Thread William Mattison
Thanks to guidance from Samuel Sieb in another thread, I'm now able to get a log relating to this problem. It's posted here: "https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/UmtcWch07hlEUUJ60vqIyA"; A few more notes... This problem occurs much more often with two e-mail addresses than with my other four,

Re: Updated to f20, but can only boot f19.

2014-01-22 Thread William Mattison
Joe asks: > > And I did "fedup --network 20". > > Have you run the upgrade yet? Yes, I did that Monday afternoon.  I did not watch it continually, but I saw no indication of trouble until the boot screen came up with no Fedora-20. Important question...  Given my answer above, is what Chris advi

Re: rkhunter warnings, maybe yum issues?

2014-01-30 Thread William Mattison
Joe says: > If it helps, I don't have either a /dev/dev or a /root/.readahead. > However, I'm running F19 on my desktop, with Xfce, although I never use > a GUI as root.  I also don't have rkhunter installed, so that might be > significant. The file is not "/root/.readahead".  The mystery file

application to listen to on-line broadcasts? [SOLVED]

2016-07-13 Thread William Mattison
Neither VLC nor Amarok seem to come with Fedora. But late last night, I found VLC with "apper" and downloaded it. I got it to work for the two radio stations. It did not help with "Pipedreams". (By the way, Pipedreams is *not* a radio station.) Now this morning, the buttons on the second li

Re: application to listen to on-line broadcasts? [SOLVED]

2016-07-13 Thread William Mattison
The message I'm replying to was intended to be the closure of the thread "application to listen to on-line broadcasts?", but I failed to put the "Re: " at the beginning of the subject line. My apologies. On to the new thread that I intended to create... 1. I've encountered several websites th

Re: application to listen to on-line broadcasts? [SOLVED]

2016-07-15 Thread William Mattison
I was wrong about the National Weather Service weather RADAR pages. When I click a "Loop" button, the display shows a message "A plugin is needed to display this content." message. I used Firefox's "Inspect Element" function, and what I see includes this: followed by a small gray-filled

Re: application to listen to on-line broadcasts? [SOLVED]

2016-07-19 Thread William Mattison
I finally found time to do some more of this. (Samuel: I'm looking to go the pepper flash player + freshplayer route, not the old flash route.) First I looked in the places that I trust most. I used Fedora's "apper" to look for Chrome, Chromium, pepper, and freshplayer in the Fedora and rpmfus

Re: application to listen to on-line broadcasts? [SOLVED]

2016-08-04 Thread William Mattison
Thank-you for the explanation. Yes, I'm the same person. I tried what you suggested. You're right. It works. Thank-you, Samuel. Bill. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/users@lists.fed

evercookies.

2016-08-22 Thread William Mattison
Hi all, Two questions about "evercookies". I think this could be useful to others in this forum as well as to me. 1. On my home Fedora-23 (updated weekly) workstation, how do I find and truly, fully, permanently get rid of whatever evercookies might be on my system? If y'all don't mind, I'd

Re: evercookies.

2016-08-24 Thread William Mattison
(I'm replying to the entire discussion as of Wednesday evening US Mountain time.) I'm now wondering if evercookies can really be fully blocked. I do want to block what I reasonably can. But as was pointed out, a lot of wanted web functionality needs cookies. So now I'm mainly focused on gett

Brasero problem and question.

2013-08-12 Thread William Mattison
Good afternoon, I'm using Fedora-18 (updated last Wednesday) on a 64-bit system.  The desktop is Gnome (updated last Wednesday).  This is about Brasero 3.6.1. After putting together the project, that is, listing all the tracks I want burned onto a music CD, I click the "Burn..." button.  Up com

Re: Brasero problem and question.

2013-08-14 Thread William Mattison
Good evening, > > Problem: That progress bar shows no progress.  I checked task usage of > > CPU, and CPU usage of Brasero is negligible.  Even after many minutes, > > nothing seems to happen.  What am I not doing that I should do, and/or > > doing that I should not do? > > Sorry, I don't have a

problem: system freezes.

2013-09-09 Thread William Mattison
Good afternoon, This is Fedora-19 on a 64 bit quad-core i7; with an Nvidia GEFORCE GTX 660.  I most recently updated Fedora last Wednesday, Sept. 04. At least once each day, the system just locks up with no advanced warning or symptoms.  It just stops responding to the trackball and keystrokes.

Re: problem: system freezes.

2013-09-10 Thread William Mattison
Good afternoon, Rick Stevens wrote... > Need a lot more info: > > Make and model of computer > Video card type (nVidia, Intel, ATI, etc.) > Memory size > Disk size and type > > You can (as root) run "dmidecode" and "lspci" from the command line > and include that with your response. We can then t

Re: problem: system freezes.

2013-09-10 Thread William Mattison
Good afternoon, I ran the memtest86+; it passed - 100%. I'm curious: is there a way to test the gpu?  If yes, how? > That's the one. So it's an nVidia GeForce GTX660. > Yeah, that's typically the driver having issues or memory problems. > Next, we need to see if you're running the nvidia or nou

Re: problem: system freezes. [SOLVED]

2013-09-12 Thread William Mattison
Good afternoon, Rick Stevens wrote: > Yeah, that's typically the driver having issues or memory problems. > Next, we need to see if you're running the nvidia or nouveau drivers. > You can look at the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file and see which driver is > loaded. Alternately, try (as root): > >    l

how to remove F18 from F18-Win7 dual boot?

2013-03-13 Thread William Mattison
I have a dual boot desktop with Fedora 18 (from the Live Media) and Windows 7 home. I need to delete the Fedora 18 install. The installation guide (section 20.2.1) discusses how to do this if the windows install is Windows 2000, Windows Server 2000, Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, Windows Vis

follow-up - Re: how to remove F18 from F18-Win7 dual boot?

2013-03-13 Thread William Mattison
Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2013, 11:01 AM > Install over it would be the easiest > way to do it. > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone powered by Mobilicity > > -----Original Message- > From: William Mattison > Sender: users-boun...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Date: Wed, 1

Re: how to remove F18 from F18-Win7 dual boot?

2013-03-14 Thread William Mattison
2013-03-13 at 08:04 -0700, > William Mattison wrote: > > I have a dual boot desktop with Fedora 18 (from the > Live Media) and > > Windows 7 home. I need to delete the Fedora 18 > install. > > If you find that you're unable to install over the top, as > the other > r

Re: how to remove F18 from F18-Win7 dual boot? [SOLVED]

2013-03-21 Thread William Mattison
The replies I received were correct. It was unnecessary to delete the previous install. I merely had to install over the old installation. Thank-you, both of you that replied. Bill. --- On Wed, 3/13/13, William Mattison wrote: > From: William Mattison > Subject: how to remove F1

Fedora 18 security questions.

2013-03-21 Thread William Mattison
I have a single desktop connected only to the internet. It's dual-boot: Fedora 18 and windows 7 home. In Fedora, it has more than one user id. I skimmed/read through the Fedora 18 security guide, and much of the Fedora 18 installation guide and the Fedora 18 sys. admin. guide. As best as I ca

Re: Fedora 18 security questions.

2013-03-22 Thread William Mattison
I may someday connect to work computers, clouds, etc. from home via ssh, vpn, etc. I will not be running a mail server, or any other kind of server, on my new system. thanks, Bill. --- On Thu, 3/21/13, William Mattison wrote: > From: William Mattison > Subject: Fedora 18

no printout, but no other hint of error. F18.

2013-03-25 Thread William Mattison
Hi, When I try to print anything out, I get no printout. Even a test page does not come out. But no indication of trouble shows up on the monitor, and no indication of trouble on the printer's display. I did download and install the driver. cups gives no hint of trouble that I recognize. I

Re: no printout, but no other hint of error. F18.

2013-03-25 Thread William Mattison
Hi Dave, > Sorry for the top post. Google shows there is a linux driver for that > printer on xerox web sight. Google search string was xerox 6015ni linux. > > Might be a short term solution for you. > > Dave I had already done this before I posted the problem. But thank-you for trying to help.

Re: no printout, but no other hint of error. F18. (Roger)

2013-03-25 Thread William Mattison
Hi Roger, > I too have Fedora 18 64 bit. Have always had trouble with Xerox laser printer > in Fedora Linux, all versions, for years. It has never been auto detected. > > You may need the ppd file, I can send my fxlinuxprint.ppd if you wish or > google for it. Copy it to /usr/share/cups/model/ > M

Re: no printout, but no other hint of error. F18. (Roger)

2013-03-25 Thread William Mattison
Hi Roger, > > I too have Fedora 18 64 bit. Have always had trouble > with Xerox laser printer > > in Fedora Linux, all versions, for years. It has never > been auto detected. > > > > You may need the ppd file, I can send my > fxlinuxprint.ppd if you wish or > > google for it. Copy it to /usr/share

Re: no printout, but no other hint of error. F18. (Roger)

2013-03-27 Thread William Mattison
Hi Roger, > > > > I too have Fedora 18 64 bit. Have always had > > > > trouble with Xerox laser printer > > > > in Fedora Linux, all versions, for years. It has > > > > never been auto detected. > > > > > > > > You may need the ppd file, I can send my > > > > fxlinuxprint.ppd if you wish or > > >

how to fully delete user account?

2013-04-16 Thread William Mattison
The language for a user account was set to simplified Chinese.  Not what was wanted!  So I thought I could just delete the account and re-create it.  I used the Users and Groups GUI to delete the user account.  I did check that the home directory for that account was gone.  Then I re-created the

Re: how to fully delete user account?

2013-04-16 Thread William Mattison
I forgot to mention: this is a Fedora-18 system.  - Bill. - Original Message - > From: William Mattison > To: "users@lists.fedoraproject.org" > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 3:52 PM > Subject: how to fully delete user account? > >T he languag

Re: how to fully delete user account? [SOLVED]

2013-04-16 Thread William Mattison
- Original Message - > From: William Mattison > To: "users@lists.fedoraproject.org" > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 3:52 PM > Subject: how to fully delete user account? > >T he language for a user account was set to simplified Chinese.  Not what was > w

how to make user account partially bi-lingual?

2013-04-16 Thread William Mattison
(Fedora-18; all desktops) A user needs all * menu entries, buttons, prompts, messages, application icon labels, etc. within * desktops (Gnome, KDE, Xfce, etc.), all LibreOffice applications, vi, etc. to be English. But he needs to be able to both * enter and view text in both * English and  simpl

how to create iso9660 archive.

2013-04-17 Thread William Mattison
(fedora-18, all desktops) I would like to burn a single dvd with an ISO9660 - Rock Ridge - Joliet file made from: * /home/user1/project17/ * /home/user2/project17/ * /home/user2/.hidden/ Each of these directories has multiple levels of subdirectories.  user1 and user2 each has other directories

Re: how to make user account partially bi-lingual?

2013-04-17 Thread William Mattison
> (Fedora-18; all desktops) > ... > How does root and/or the user set up his account so he always has these > abilities? > In effect, we want the account to be bi-lingual, with English as the primary > language, > and simplified Chinese being a secondary language. > > Thank-you in advance for you

Re: how to make user account partially bi-lingual?

2013-04-18 Thread William Mattison
> What do you get when you type > > file filename  ? > > I don't remember, but I think in the Fedora 9 days Unicode may not have been > the default.  The encoding you have may be GB2312. > > You can try running > > iconv -f GB2312 -t UTF8 filename > filename.utf8 > > and then vi the result

Re: how to create iso9660 archive. [SOLVED]

2013-04-18 Thread William Mattison
> (fedora-18, all desktops) > > I would like to burn a single dvd with an ISO9660 - Rock Ridge - Joliet file > made from: > * /home/user1/project17/ > * /home/user2/project17/ > * /home/user2/.hidden/ > Each of these directories has multiple levels of subdirectories.  user1 and > user2 each has

Re: how to make user account partially bi-lingual?

2013-04-18 Thread William Mattison
> The ISO-8859 text is a good indication that the file is encoded in GB2312. > > So, you'll want > > -f GB2312 > -t UTF-8 > > That is all Progress.  That made the file display in vi in Terminal correctly.  Thank-you, Ed. But the Chinese still doesn't display correctly in vi in Konsole an

Re: how to make user account partially bi-lingual?

2013-04-22 Thread William Mattison
> > But the Chinese still doesn't display correctly in vi in Konsole and XTerrm. > > > > There are other issues, but I will initiate separate threads for those. > > I could understand it not displaying properly in an xterm. > > I've no problem konsole.  Should check Advanced profile settings

how to change character menu font in ibus?

2013-04-22 Thread William Mattison
(Fedora-18) Using ibus's settings GUI, I configured ibus to use a size 16 kai font to display a list of simplified Chinese characters that match the pinyin that the user types to enter a simplified Chinese character.  But when I try to enter Chinese characters (in vi in a Gnome terminal), the m

not receiving anything from users at lists.fedoraproject.

2013-05-02 Thread William Mattison
Good morning, For several days now, I have not received anything from users@lists.fedoraproject.org.  I sent a message to "owner", but received no response.  How do I get this fixed? Please reply to me as well as the list.  I will also check the archives later today for answers. thanks, Bill

Re: not receiving anything from users at lists.fedoraproject. [SOLVED]

2013-05-02 Thread William Mattison
@fedoraproject.org", though a lot less today.  It was really bad a few days ago.  Could Yahoo e-mail subscribers' responses to all those "nobody" messages be what caused Yahoo to bounce messages - based on "fedoraproject.org". Bill. - Original Message - &g

Re: no printout, but no other hint of error. F18.

2013-05-14 Thread William Mattison
Good morning, > From: William Mattison > To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Cc: > Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 11:33 AM > Subject: no printout, but no other hint of error.  F18. > > Hi, > > When I try to print anything out, I get no printout.  Even a test page do

Re: no printout, but no other hint of error. F18.

2013-05-14 Thread William Mattison
> Do you see any errors in /var/log/messages pertaining to cups?  Does > "lpstat -t" show the printer and is it enabled? > > Kevin Here's what I have/get, right after re-booting and trying an "lp" command: [root@c-69-138-198-76 ~]# cd /var/log [root@c-69-138-198-76 log]# lpstat -t scheduler i

Re: no printout, but no other hint of error. F18.

2013-05-15 Thread William Mattison
> Also, the line: > >   May 13 16:26:14 c-69-138-198-76 cupsd[625]: p11-kit: couldn't open > >   config file: /root/.pkcs11/pkcs11.conf: Permission denied > > from your lpstat output may not be causing a problem, but you should > address it anyway because until you do you won't know if it's part

Re: no printout, but no other hint of error. F18. (Kevin Martin)

2013-05-15 Thread William Mattison
>Where did you say you got the PPD for this device? Are you running 64bit or >32bit Fedora?  Does libcups.so.2 exist on the system >anywhere? I do not know what a "PPD" is.  Whatever I got specifically for this device must have come from the Xerox device driver RPM for this device which I do

Re: how to make user account partially bi-lingual? [CLOSED]

2013-05-20 Thread William Mattison
> From: William Mattison >To: "users@lists.fedoraproject.org" >Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:03 PM >Subject: how to make user account partially bi-lingual? >(Fedora-18; all desktops) > >A user needs all >* menu entries, buttons, prompts, messages, app

Re: no printout, but no other hint of error. F18. [SOLVED]

2013-05-31 Thread William Mattison
> When I try to print anything out, I get no printout.  Even a test page does > not come out. > But no indication of trouble shows up on the monitor, and no indication of > trouble on the > printer's display.  I did download and install the driver.  cups gives no > hint of trouble that I > reco

Re: no printout, but no other hint of error. F18. [SOLVED]

2013-05-31 Thread William Mattison
[the previous version of this was sent by mistake; I intended to "Save draft".] > When I try to print anything out, I get no printout.  Even a test page does > not come out. > But no indication of trouble shows up on the monitor, and no indication of > trouble on the > printer's display.  I did

Re: no printout, but no other hint of error. F18. [SOLVED]

2013-06-03 Thread William Mattison
Hi Daniel, > You might want to open a bugzilla with Xerox to fix the way they build their > libraries, with PIC flags. I looked and searched the Xerox web site.  I found neither Bugzilla nor any other bug-reporting page/link.  How do I do as you suggest? thanks, Bill.-- users mailing list use

Re: no printout, but no other hint of error. F18. [SOLVED] [CLOSED]

2013-06-05 Thread William Mattison
> You might want to open a bugzilla with Xerox to fix the way they build their > libraries, with PIC flags. Done.  The second line engineer gave me the sense that it's very unlikely that they will implement the requested fix.  He said that Fedora and Redhat each account for less than 0.1% of t

question: F-19 and CUPS upgrade.

2013-06-27 Thread William Mattison
I see in the Fedora-19 release notes that CUPS will be upgraded to 1.6.  The page on that: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/CUPS1.6 says this involves using pdf rather than postscript as the baseline document format.  While wrestling to get printing working on my system this past spring,

Re: question: F-19 and CUPS upgrade.

2013-06-28 Thread William Mattison
> I think that change is just an internal detail cups cares about. > > I've been just copying my /etc/cups/ppd/ files from one fedora to the > next for years now and printing keeps working (and seemed to work > in fedora 19 beta as well). Thank-you for your comments, Tom. Did any of those change

Re: question: F-19 and CUPS upgrade.

2013-06-30 Thread William Mattison
> I'm pretty sure the ps versus pdf is just the way the print job > is handed to the driver that converts it to whatever the > printer actually needs. > > Certainly my Brother HL-2040 doesn't print postscript of > any kind natively, it needs HP PCL. My Epson Artisan doesn't > even use a native dri

lost cursor.

2013-07-02 Thread William Mattison
(Fedora-18; 64-bit; all desktops) I have two 27-inch monitors on my system.  Occasionally, I "lose" the cursor.  (ok, who's that that I hear snickering out there?!)  I recall years ago (two jobs ago) on the Unix system at work, we had a tool called "xeyes" which amounted to a pair of eyes which

Re: lost cursor. [SOLVED]

2013-07-03 Thread William Mattison
Good morning, >(Fedora-18; 64-bit; all desktops) > >I have two 27-inch monitors on my system.  Occasionally, I "lose" the cursor.  >(ok, who's that that I hear snickering out there?!)  I recall years ago (two >jobs ago) on the Unix system at work, we had a tool called "xeyes" which >amounted t

looking for xv.

2013-07-09 Thread William Mattison
(Fedora-18; 64-bit; all desktops) On my old Redhat-9 system, I had this great tool "xv" which I used quite often to "colorize" raw weather satellite images.  It made doing that very easy, especially with the three GUIs that let me graphically vary the red, green, and blue intensities independen

Re: f24 boot fails; need help.

2017-05-11 Thread William Mattison
All three fedora versions in the grub menu appear to yield the same results. So whatever the "dnf upgrade" did, it affected all three. The windows-7 boot still works (this is a dual boot system, a desktop). My camera died over a year ago, and I have no portable devices. Having been unemploye

Re: f24 boot fails; need help.

2017-05-11 Thread William Mattison
Good evening, Based on what y'all said, I'd say I'm in a "dracut shell". I cannot reach any login whatsoever, using any of the techniques y'all suggested. The "/var/log/" directory is empty. There is no "/var/cache/" directory. The directory "/usr/bin/" does not have many things in it. It do

Re: f24 boot fails; need help.

2017-05-15 Thread William Mattison
Good afternoon. I've wrestled with this for some 3(?) days now. I'm still stuck. I did find a "rescue" mode, and I was able to get in to it. But it didn't really help. Two IT grad students came and tried to help, but couldn't. In the rescue mode, I tried to use "fdisk" to get the device ID fo

Re: f24 boot fails; need help.

2017-05-17 Thread William Mattison
Finally, I hope, a few useful clues. Rescue mode gave me enough information to make a lucky guess as to how to mount "/home" from within the dracut shell. With that, I could try the boot again (which of course failed and dropped me into the dracut shell), and then mount "/home", and then copy

Re: f24 boot fails; need help.

2017-05-17 Thread William Mattison
From what I've seen in the website you referenced, and what I posted here earlier today, it seems similar to what you experienced, but not identical. It seems fsck says something is wrong with one of the partitions. Take a look. Feel free to chime in along with the others. Thank-you. ___

Re: f24 boot fails; need help.

2017-05-17 Thread William Mattison
I don't have a LiveUSB, and I get the impression it would take hours to make one. This incident teaches me that once I get the system back on its feet, and I've upgraded to f25, I'll want to make one. About how long should it take? ___ users mailing l

Re: f24 boot fails; need help.

2017-05-17 Thread William Mattison
I have three active versions of f24 - the 3 most recent weekly patches. All three fail the same way and drop me into the dracut mode. I didn't know I had a rescue mode until some long-time IT friend suggested it to me last Friday. It wasn't obvious in the grub menu. It actually proved helpfu

Re: f24 boot fails; need help.

2017-05-17 Thread William Mattison
> It isn't home you want to mount, it's /, the root filesystem. I wanted /home as a place to copy log files to so I could then access them from the windows box. I originally wanted to copy them to a USB stick, but I couldn't get that to work. I didn't know workstations nowadays had batteries.

Re: f24 boot fails; need help. [SOLVED]

2017-05-19 Thread William Mattison
Well, as you yourself said in an earlier post on this topic, " Memory is the second thing to go, but I can't remember the first!"! You are almost certainly correct - it was "fsck", not "fdisk". I just typed the wrong thing into my posting. Another "senior moment". > This isn't a black art

Re: f24 boot fails; need help. [SOLVED]

2017-05-19 Thread William Mattison
You're right. I should see my friend sometime next week or two. He wants me to help him practice his cloud computing paper before he presents it at some conference. (He's an international student.) I'll ask him about the fsck options then. Bill. ___ u

Re: Fedora command for motherboard clock condition (from: f24 boot fails; need help).

2017-05-19 Thread William Mattison
After groping through papers in a moving box, I found the user's guide for the motherboard. Amazing: something I kept actually proved useful! It's a ASUS Sabertooth Z77, bought in early 2013. Well, no index, no mention of battery in the table of contents. I skimmed through once, no hint of b

Re: ACPI errors (was: f24 boot fails; need help).

2017-05-21 Thread William Mattison
1. For several weeks, I've been seeing text fly by early during the boot process, before the blue and white line grows left to right at the bottom of the screen. But the text scrolls by too fast and disappears too fast for me to catch more than an isolated word or two. I also had no idea how t

Re: post-mortem: f24 boot fails; need help.

2017-05-24 Thread William Mattison
Thank-you Sam and Rick. For the next 2 questions, I'm not looking for numerical answers. Qualitative probability terms on a scale going from "highly improbably" to "almost certainly" would be great. The clock (and the CMOS battery) got some attention while trying to fix the boot problem. I h

Re: f24 boot fails; need help. [SOLVED]

2017-05-24 Thread William Mattison
My friend was here earlier tonight. The command was "fsck /dev/sda6" (no options). He also said he's seen this kind of thing before. Bill. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedora

Re: post-mortem: f24 boot fails; need help.

2017-05-29 Thread William Mattison
Good evening, Hardware problems have seriously tied me up for about a week now. My apologies for my silence on this topic. The hardware issue is not really fixed yet. I likely will be forced off-line again for several days to a few weeks. If I'm not responding; assume that that's what's hap

Re: post-mortem: f24 boot fails; need help.

2017-05-30 Thread William Mattison
I wasn't fully convinced these problems are due to the battery. That's why I listed the four things I found "odd". On the other hand, I recall hearing and reading that the output of lithium batteries is almost flat (better than any other type of battery), but then very quickly drops (faster th

Re: post-mortem: f24 boot fails; need help.

2017-05-31 Thread William Mattison
I did "smartctl --all /dev/sda > smartctl_out.txt". I got over 200 lines of output. The most recent error reported in the output file is this one: === Error 66 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 13741 hours (572 days + 13 hours) When the command that caused the error occurred, th

Re: post-mortem: f24 boot fails; need help.

2017-05-31 Thread William Mattison
> Look up S.M.A.R.T., though be aware that some controllers may not > co-operate, but that tends to be things like outboard USB interfaces, or > RAID. Ordinary hard drives plugged straight into the motherboard are > likely to be checkable. It's the hard drive, itself, that checks its > health an

Re: post-mortem: f24 boot fails; need help.

2017-06-02 Thread William Mattison
I tried badblocks last night. I didn't realize how long it would take. After over 3 hours, I had to abort it to do something else. This morning, I retried it, this time with options to show its progress. It took between 3 1/2 and 3 3/4 hours. Here are the results: === bash.3[~]:

Re: post-mortem: f24 boot fails; need help.

2017-06-02 Thread William Mattison
Well, the battery has been replaced this afternoon. It took between 2 and 2 1/2 hours. The system seems to be functioning ok so far, but I haven't yet booted up in windows-7, and I haven't yet tried a "dnf upgrade". Before I took the system apart, I checked the CMOS clock and the voltages rep

Re: post-mortem: f24 boot fails; need help.

2017-06-03 Thread William Mattison
According to the man page, the "-n" option is non-destructive; the "-w" option is what you described. Regardless, it's too long. Bill. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproje

Re: post-mortem: f24 boot fails; need help.

2017-06-03 Thread William Mattison
While changing the motherboard battery yesterday (Friday), most cables were disconnected and then later re-connected. That included the hard drive connection to the motherboard. I also disconnected and reconnected both the power cable and the data cable where they plug in to the hard drive its

Re: post-mortem: f24 boot fails; need help.

2017-06-03 Thread William Mattison
The smartctl long test took about 4 hours (I think!). I wish it would notify me when it was actually finished! As best as I could tell (by using "smartctl -l error /dev/sda", it found no problems. thanks, Bill. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.f

Re: post-mortem: f24 boot fails; need help.

2017-06-08 Thread William Mattison
I did my weekly patches this afternoon, and this time the system booted up fine. So I'm back to what caused the problems. * Motherboard battery? Quite unlikely, but not 100% certain. Battery replaced anyway. * Hard drive? Somewhat unlikely. Two 4-hour non-destructive disk checks found no is

Re: post-mortem: f24 boot fails; need help.

2017-06-09 Thread William Mattison
It's believed that the main problems were i-node problems identified by "fsck" during boot. The first time, they were on sda6; the second time, they were on sda7. A few follow-up questions about the hard drive... I used the long but non-destructive test options of both "badblocks" and "smartc

Re: post-mortem: f24 boot fails; need help.

2017-06-09 Thread William Mattison
I think you're probably right on both counts. I thought so before my Thursday night post, but really thought it best to check with the experts. thanks, Bill. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-

Re: how to (re-?)construct grub menu?

2017-06-27 Thread William Mattison
(replying to all three messages) When I boot, the bios display says it is UEFI. Am I mis-understanding what that means? Am I mis-using the term? My /boot directory has only two sub-directories: "grub" and "grub2", no sub-directory "efi". Each of the two sub-directories has a file called "gru

Re: how to (re-?)construct grub menu?

2017-06-28 Thread William Mattison
Good evening, I believe Stan is correct. I built this system 4+ years ago. At that time, it was my understanding that to get a windows-7 and Fedora dual-boot system, I had to install windows-7 first. I think that at that time, windows-7 did not support UEFI. Though I did not explicitly make

Re: how to (re-?)construct grub menu?

2017-06-29 Thread William Mattison
Good afternoon, I found the login attempts in the journalctl output, though it isn't easy. I'll open a new thread to address what this is really about. Before the hard drive replacement, the grub menu showed the three most recent Fedora patches, then something like "Advanced options for Fedora

attempts to hack in?

2017-06-29 Thread William Mattison
Good afternoon, (f25 home workstation) While looking at journalctl output yesterday and today for other reasons (separate thread), I saw many "authentication failure" messages, over half also saying "user=root". I also saw many "password check failed for user (root)" messages. I saw many unk

Re: how to (re-?)construct grub menu?

2017-06-29 Thread William Mattison
> Add the entry > GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU=y > to the /etc/default/grub file. That made no difference. Then I did "grub2-mkconfig". Still no difference. > Try adding the entry > GRUB_GFXPAYLOAD_LINUX=text > to the /etc/default/grub file. You might have to play with this a > little. To examine

Re: how to (re-?)construct grub menu?

2017-06-30 Thread William Mattison
Good evening, I did what was advised. Still no change. But I think there is a more fundamental problem here. The grub on my system came from"Boot-Repair-Disk", on a live-usb stick, not from any dnf install from a Fedora repository. So if Fedora's grub is customized or specialized in some wa

Re: attempts to hack in?

2017-06-30 Thread William Mattison
Wow. Hot topic! I view all this here: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org In past threads, the oldest messages were at the top, and the newest at the bottom. Why is it "upside down" in this thread?! I have skimmed the responses so far. But I've had to f

Re: attempts to hack in?

2017-07-01 Thread William Mattison
Today (Saturday), I booted up only once, logged in only once as my primary common user, and then a short while ago logged in to an different account with adequate privileges to view the journalctl. With over 12 hours as a common user, I hoped that searching the journalctl would be simpler. I h

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