> From: William Mattison <wcmatti...@yahoo.com>
>To: "users@lists.fedoraproject.org" <users@lists.fedoraproject.org> 
>Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 9:03 PM
>Subject: how to make user account partially bi-lingual?

>(Fedora-18; all desktops)
>
>A user needs all
>* menu entries, buttons, prompts, messages, application icon labels, etc.
>within
>* desktops (Gnome, KDE, Xfce, etc.), all LibreOffice applications, vi, etc.
>to be English.
>
>
>But he needs to be able to both
>* enter and view
>text in both
>* English and  simplified Chinese
>within
>* vi,
 all LibreOffice applications, internet e-mail (Yahoo mail, gmail, etc.), etc.
>where most files/messages will contain a mix of English and simplified Chinese.
>
>How does root and/or the user set up his account so he always has these 
>abilities?  In effect, we want the account to be bi-lingual, with English as 
>the primary language, and simplified Chinese being a secondary language.
>
>
>Thank-you in advance for your help.
>Bill.

When diagnosing and solving this started involving screen captures, I decided 
to take this off-line with Ed Greshko.    With a lot of
 excellent help from Ed, everything I believe I want or need to do, I can now 
do somehow.  It would take a lot to spell it all out.  I'll try to summarize.  
I'll keep referring to Chinese (meaning "simplified" Chinese) here, but I 
suspect this applies to some other languages as well.


* It may be necessary to download RPMs for Chinese.  You'll need Chinese fonts 
and "ibus" (the tool needed for input of Chinese characters).
* In the chosen desktop's customization GUI, a user can select more than one 
language.  He should make sure English is the display language.  But the list 
of available languages must include Chinese.
* The "ibus" tool should be chosen for input of Chinese.  "ibus" is 
configurable.
* UTF-8 is the preferred encoding for text in files.
* Make sure the encoding in terminal windows and LibreOffice applications is 
set correctly.  The encoding in terminal windows and LibreOffice applications 
must match the encoding of the text in the files being edited.
* Make sure the font in terminal windows and LibreOffice applications is set to 
something that provides glyphs for Chinese.
* The "file" command is useful for determining the encoding within many (but 
not all) files.
* The "iconv" command is useful for converting files from one encoding to 
another.

Along the way, four bugs were found.  Two bugs were already reported in 
Bugzilla:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=890474

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=918308

One new bug was reported by Ed:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=956512

One bug was reported by myself in both
 Redhat and LibreOffice (freedesktop):

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=960768
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64678

There are work-arounds to all four bugs if you're not tied to one desktop 
manager and one terminal, and you're flexible about font face and size.

The last two bugs (Redhat #960768 and LibreOffice #64678) appear to be already 
closed, prematurely in my opinion.  The others appear to still be open. 
 Therefore, I termed this thread "[CLOSED]", not "[SOLVED]".

I thank Ed for all his help on this.

Bill.
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