Re: F19: GRUB and Plymouth issues

On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 8:05 PM, "Germán A. Racca" wrote: > On 07/07/2013 02:25 PM, Joachim Backes wrote: > >> On 07/07/2013 07:15 PM, "Germán A. Racca" wrote: >> >>> >>> About Grub, that is what I did: first I installed grub2-starfield-theme >>> and then I modified the file /etc/default/grub by ad

rant of the day: installing fedora

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Bonjour, Once upon a time, install fedora was easy: you had to choose between an automatic installation and a customised installation. Now, I get a stupid screen which allows to choose an environment (gnome, xfce,) bravo! And *I can only choose (

Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

I did had the possibility to partition manually ! I choosed my disk, uncheck it and check it again then it proposed me to partition manullay ("personalisé "). that's for the manual way to install, here we are deploying dozens of fedora19, in that case the use of kickstart and partition option wi

Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19

> > > Ah, SELinux again... Kinda' defeats the purpose these days, doesn't it? > > > No it's doing exactly what it should be doing ... in a 'normal' usercase there's no need for SSH to be on a port other than TCP/22 and this prevents it ... if you need it on another port it's trivial to add on the n

Re: Instability in F19 with KVM?

On 08.07.2013 08:34, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > On 08.07.2013 00:55, Martin Jackson wrote: >> Please, check this link for more info: >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2013-July/436981.html >> Mateusz Marzantowicz >> >> Thanks, Mateusz. I'm not certain that what I'm seeing is th

Re: F19: GRUB and Plymouth issues

On 08.07.2013 09:11, sguazt wrote: > Hello, > > Thank you for the feedback. > Just for info, is the grub2 "without themed" the new F19 default, or > something's gone wrong with my installation? It is essential for the boot loader to boot the kernel, not to play disco. :) poma -- users maili

Re: 138a:0018 Validity Sensors will not work

On 06.07.2013 11:31, Jerome Yanga wrote: > Thanks, Poma. > > I have compiled and installed the code in the URL you have provided. > However, I am still seeing the same issue. Don't top-post, s'il vous plaît. That is a library part - 'libfprint', follows a service part - 'fprintd'. ;) poma -

Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

François Patte wrote: > Once upon a time, install fedora was easy: you had to choose between an > automatic installation and a customised installation. > > Now, I get a stupid screen which allows to choose an environment (gnome, > xfce,) bravo! And *I can only choose (so there is no choice!!!

Fedora 18 -> 19 Upgrade

I've been running Fedora on both laptops and desktops since Fedora Core 1. Before that I used Red Hat Linux. I've been used to my six-monthly upgrades entailing a variable (but non-zero) amount of hassle. Over the weekend I upgraded both my laptop and my desktop from Fedora 18 to Fedora 19. For th

Re: Fedora 18 -> 19 Upgrade

On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 10:54:47 +0100 Dave Cross wrote: > I've been running Fedora on both laptops and desktops since Fedora Core 1. > Before that I used Red Hat Linux. I've been used to my six-monthly upgrades > entailing a variable (but non-zero) amount of hassle. > > Over the weekend I upgraded b

Fwd: Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - Message original Sujet: Re: rant of the day: installing fedora Date : Mon, 08 Jul 2013 10:54:28 +0200 De : François Patte Organisation : Université Paris Descartes Pour : jehan.procac...@tem-tsp.eu Le 08/07/2013 10:02, jehan pro

Re: Fedora 18 -> 19 Upgrade

On 8 July 2013 11:05, Maurizio Marini wrote: > On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 10:54:47 +0100 > Dave Cross wrote: > > > I've been running Fedora on both laptops and desktops since Fedora Core > 1. > > Before that I used Red Hat Linux. I've been used to my six-monthly > upgrades > > entailing a variable (but

fedup - the good and the bad

I've used fedup on 4 very different machines, and it has worked faultlessly. My only gripe is the complete silence during hours of processing. Is there any reason why something - if even just a dot every minute or so - should not appear on the screen? Of course an estimate of the expected duratio

Re: fedup - the good and the bad

On 07/08/2013 07:03 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: I've used fedup on 4 very different machines, and it has worked faultlessly. My only gripe is the complete silence during hours of processing. Is there any reason why something - if even just a dot every minute or so - should not appear on the screen

Re: fedup - the good and the bad

> My only gripe is the complete silence > during hours of processing. Hours? Jeez. It doesn't take anything like "hours" for me to install from scratch and copy my old config by hand. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.

Re: F19: GRUB and Plymouth issues

On 07/08/2013 05:32 AM, poma wrote: On 08.07.2013 09:11, sguazt wrote: Hello, Thank you for the feedback. Just for info, is the grub2 "without themed" the new F19 default, or something's gone wrong with my installation? It is essential for the boot loader to boot the kernel, not to play disc

RE: Wireless networking degraded with Fedora 18 (and now 19)

Excuse the top posting to my original email... Just updated the laptop to Fedora 19, same degraded networking performance. If I switch back to the hard drive with Fedora 17 everything goes back to normal, fast networking. I don't have another network card to test with, but I know the hardware

Re: Fwd: Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 12:12:12PM +0200, François Patte wrote: > Le 08/07/2013 10:02, jehan procaccia a écrit : > > I did had the possibility to partition manually ! I choosed my disk, > > uncheck it and check it again then it proposed me to partition > > manullay ("personalisé "). that's for th

Re: fedup - the good and the bad

On Monday 08 July 2013 12:37:13 Tom Horsley wrote: > > My only gripe is the complete silence > > during hours of processing. > > Hours? Jeez. It doesn't take anything like "hours" for me to > install from scratch and copy my old config by hand. But does that include the download time for the DVD?

Re: fedup - the good and the bad

On 07/08/2013 07:57 AM, Gary Stainburn wrote: On Monday 08 July 2013 12:37:13 Tom Horsley wrote: My only gripe is the complete silence during hours of processing. Hours? Jeez. It doesn't take anything like "hours" for me to install from scratch and copy my old config by hand. But does that inc

Re: Touchpad is not working anymore

Thanks Tim for your response! No, it's not the kernel. I have three kernels: 3.6.5, 3.6.8. and 3.9.9 With the two firsts, the mouse worked very well. I've made an update on 3.6.8 to 3.9.9 and then, booted to Windows on the reboot part, installed the chipset update, then boot fedora. Since that mome

Re: fedup - the good and the bad

On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 12:57:00 +0100 Gary Stainburn wrote: > But does that include the download time for the DVD? Nope, but my system stays up and is usable in a normal state while I'm downloading the DVD prior to an install from scratch :-). In fact with my latest preferred install technique my sy

Re: fedup - the good and the bad

Timothy Murphy writes: I've used fedup on 4 very different machines, and it has worked faultlessly. My only gripe is the complete silence during hours of processing. Is there any reason why something - if even just a dot every minute or so - should not appear on the screen? There is a progres

Re: Interpreting Yum Dependency Error

Am 07.07.2013 07:02, schrieb Bruno Wolff III: > On Sat, Jul 06, 2013 at 15:45:53 +0200, > Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> Am 06.07.2013 15:40, schrieb Tim Evans: >>> # yum -y update >> >> do *not* use "-y" >> >> what are you doing if due a packaging-error half of the system >> would be removed? > >

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

Am 07.07.2013 17:53, schrieb lee: > Heinz Diehl writes: >> On 07.07.2013, lee wrote: >> >>> What kind of crap is that? >> >> I don't know. >> >>> And does it mean that there again will be problems with updating when I try >>> to move to F19? >> >> In general, I would always prefer a fresh instal

Re: cron DELAY

Am 07.07.2013 15:19, schrieb Steven Stern: > Since F19, the following have appeared in my daily logwatch: > > - Cron Begin > > **Unmatched Entries** > INFO (RANDOM_DELAY will be scaled with factor 37% if used.) > INFO (RANDOM_DELAY will be scaled

F19: ipv6disable=1 as boot-param ignored

"ipv6disable=1" in F19 is ignored i get tired every few months research how IPv6 to disable because it permanently changes, maybe it is F19/systemd maybe it is the F20 3.10.0-1.fc20.x86_64 because it is the only 3.10 build currently, however the kernel-line is clear on pure ipv4 networks there is

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

Am 07.07.2013 19:21, schrieb lee: > Reindl Harald writes: > >> Am 07.07.2013 17:53, schrieb lee: >>> If Fedora cannot be updated without major problems, it's >>> not useable. >> >> if you follow this guides *strictly* and willing to learn to deal >> wtih "package-cleanup --leaves | --problems |

Re: How to get rid of the clock lock screen

On Sun, Jul 07, 2013 at 06:30:54PM +, Andre Robatino wrote: > But what if you DO want the screen to blank (and eventually turn the monitor > off, for power saving) but get rid of the screen shield? Curremtly, the official Gnome answer seemed to be "don't use Gnome". There was a thread a while

Re: Fwd: Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

Alexander Volovics wrote: > Du calme, Francois. Ce que nous voyons ici c'est: > 'Monsieur Hulot et les ordinateurs' ou 'Francois et les ordinateurs'. > > First there are 'installation guides' (though one is too terse and the > other long-winded and turgid). > By browsing these you would have know

Re: Resume problem

Joachim, dis you submit this problem to the devel list since it seems to be a kernel problem ? Best regards Eric 2013/7/7 Joachim Backes > On 07/07/2013 03:17 PM, Martin Møller Skarbiniks Pedersen wrote: > >> Are you swap partition large enough ? >> > > Hi Martin, > > in such cases, pm-suspend

Re: Fwd: Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

On 07/08/2013 08:58 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Alexander Volovics wrote: Du calme, Francois. Ce que nous voyons ici c'est: 'Monsieur Hulot et les ordinateurs' ou 'Francois et les ordinateurs'. First there are 'installation guides' (though one is too terse and the other long-winded and turgid).

Re: Resume problem

On 07/08/2013 03:14 PM, Eric Tanguy wrote: Joachim, dis you submit this problem to the devel list since it seems to be a kernel problem ? Best regards Eric Eric, I filed a kernel BZ in july 2012 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=842033 which I closed in the meantime because for me

Re: F19: ipv6disable=1 as boot-param ignored

On Sun, 2013-07-07 at 18:18 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > "ipv6disable=1" in F19 is ignored > > i get tired every few months research how IPv6 to disable > because it permanently changes, maybe it is F19/systemd > maybe it is the F20 3.10.0-1.fc20.x86_64 because it is > the only 3.10 build current

Re: Fwd: Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 02:58:47PM +0200, Timothy Murphy wrote: > The default should always be to leave things as they are, > as far as possible. Did you protest against the new anaconda, I can't remember. I didn't because I believe in flexibility and adaptation, certainly when the end result is

Re: Fwd: Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 08/07/2013 13:49, Alexander Volovics a écrit : > On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 12:12:12PM +0200, François Patte wrote: > >> Le 08/07/2013 10:02, jehan procaccia a écrit : >>> I did had the possibility to partition manually ! I choosed my >>> disk, unche

Re: How to get rid of the clock lock screen

Matthew Miller fedoraproject.org> writes: > I've gotten used to double-clicking "esc" to unlock my screen. If the screen is blanked, and I hit Esc specifically (as opposed to just any kind of mouse or keyboard action, as previously), it both unblanks the screen and avoids the screen shield. But

Re: nfs issues in fedora 19

On Mon, 08 Jul 2013 13:29:44 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 07/08/13 13:09, Amadeus W.M. wrote: >> I normally have an nfs server running on one of my machines. Now nfs >> itself and the portmapper start on fixed ports, but the rpc services >> start on random ports so they need to be assigned fixed

Re: How to get rid of the clock lock screen

On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 02:09:12PM +, Andre Robatino wrote: > > I've gotten used to double-clicking "esc" to unlock my screen. > If the screen is blanked, and I hit Esc specifically (as opposed to just any > kind of mouse or keyboard action, as previously), it both unblanks the > screen and avo

Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19

Allegedly, on or about 08 July 2013, James Hogarth sent: > If you want SSH on a different port the better options are to pick a > port below 1024 (and add that port to the sshd_t context via semanage) > or to bind SSH to 22 and to use iptables to do a redirection > internally from the high level po

Re: F19: ipv6disable=1 as boot-param ignored

Am 08.07.2013 15:56, schrieb Cristian Sava: > On Sun, 2013-07-07 at 18:18 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> "ipv6disable=1" in F19 is ignored >> >> i get tired every few months research how IPv6 to disable >> because it permanently changes, maybe it is F19/systemd >> maybe it is the F20 3.10.0-1.fc2

Re: nfs issues in fedora 19

On 07/08/13 22:24, Amadeus W.M. wrote: > Thank you, that's life saver. > > Behind I am, but then so is system-config-nfs because that's what I used > to configure nfs, including the ports. I don't use that tool. If it lead you down the garden path, you probably should write a bugzilla. > > Whi

Re: fedup - the good and the bad

Allegedly, on or about 08 July 2013, Timothy Murphy sent: > Of course an estimate of the expected duration would be even more > helpful, or just a statement of how many packages have been processed, > out of how many in total. It's often been said that it's hard to estimate how long to completion

Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19

On 07/08/2013 10:01 AM, Tim wrote: > And I'd certainly avoid putting anything exploitable, ever, on port > 23456. Maybe that was just a made up example by the original poster, > but consecutive numbers like that, and other common number sequences, > are just the sort of thing that wannabes hackers

Re: fedup - the good and the bad

On Monday 08 July 2013 13:06:12 Tom Horsley wrote: > On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 12:57:00 +0100 > > Gary Stainburn wrote: > > But does that include the download time for the DVD? > > Nope, but my system stays up and is usable in a > normal state while I'm downloading the DVD prior > to an install from scrat

Re: Fwd: Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

Allegedly, on or about 08 July 2013, François Patte sent: > But this requires to have two computers: while you install one, you > follow the instructions on the other. I've, long since, come to realise that it's nearly impossible to manage with just one computer. Your instructions are on-file/on-

Re: How to get rid of the clock lock screen

Allegedly, on or about 08 July 2013, Matthew Miller sent: > Yeah it seems like a good RFE would be for shift, alt, and ctl to also > clear the screen shield. They're certainly the keys that I hit, now, to unblank the screen. Since, by themselves, they're not supposed to be able to do anything. Ot

Re: How to get rid of the clock lock screen

On 07/08/2013 09:47 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > Yeah it seems like a good RFE would be for shift, alt, and ctl to also clear > the screen shield. Press the Enter key. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org

Re: Touchpad is not working anymore

Allegedly, on or about 08 July 2013, Diego Vargas sent: > No, it's not the kernel. > I have three kernels: 3.6.5, 3.6.8. and 3.9.9 > With the two firsts, the mouse worked very well. > I've made an update on 3.6.8 to 3.9.9 and then, booted to Windows on > the reboot part, installed the chipset updat

Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19

Allegedly, on or about 08 July 2013, Michael Cronenworth sent: > Since there are only 65,535 ports to scan, anyone at any time can > easily scan for an open port in seconds. Arguing about semantics of a > port number is more Security Through Obscurity(tm). I think there's some difference between p

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

I've been using Fedora and before that Red Hat Linux for over 15 years. I've never trusted any update process. I've always done a re-installation. This time, I thought I'd give fedup a chance. I've done it on three systems. Each mostly worked. The problems were minor and could essentially b

Re: Resume problem

| From: Tanguy Eric | The problem was in f18 and now also in f19. The pc seems to go fine in | hibernate but when i try to resume it seems to try to resume and after few | seconds reboot normally. I tried to activate the pm_trace functionality with | |echo 1 > /sys/power/pm_trace| and use |dmesg

Re: Fwd: Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

Sorry for top posting this. My bb won't allow bottom posting. My $0.02 on this topic. My nfs server is running fc5. Very outdated but I see no reason to upgrade it as there are 3 firewalls between it and the Net. It is doing what I want it to do. Serve files. My other machines are all F17. Onl

Re: Fwd: Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 08/07/2013 18:03, davidscha...@mobilicity.blackberry.com a écrit : > Sorry for top posting this. My bb won't allow bottom posting. > > My $0.02 on this topic. > > My nfs server is running fc5. Very outdated but I see no reason to > upgrade it as

Re: F19: ipv6disable=1 as boot-param ignored

On Mon, 2013-07-08 at 16:15 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 08.07.2013 15:56, schrieb Cristian Sava: > > On Sun, 2013-07-07 at 18:18 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> "ipv6disable=1" in F19 is ignored > >> > >> i get tired every few months research how IPv6 to disable > >> because it permanently

updating live CD: does it result in more up-to-date installations?

I have built a USB stick with a Live Fedora 19 on it. I gave it a large overlay to make room for updates. I booted the stick and did a yum update. (Boy was that slow. I think that the Kingston DT101 G2 stick, combined with the USB 2.0 interface, was the cause.) If I install from this stick,

Re: How to get rid of the clock lock screen

On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 10:34:27AM -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > On 07/08/2013 09:47 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: > > Yeah it seems like a good RFE would be for shift, alt, and ctl to also clear > > the screen shield. > Press the Enter key. Right, so, rewinding a second in the conversation

Re: updating live CD: does it result in more up-to-date installations?

On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 12:16:29 -0400, "D. Hugh Redelmeier" wrote: I have built a USB stick with a Live Fedora 19 on it. I gave it a large overlay to make room for updates. I booted the stick and did a yum update. (Boy was that slow. I think that the Kingston DT101 G2 stick, combined with

Re: Procedure for changing ethernet controllers

Hi, On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 12:45 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 06/29/2013 08:45 PM, Digimer wrote: >> >> You need to get the MAC address for the new card and replace the old >> card's MAC address value in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-. >> Specifically, edit the 'HWADDR="..."' line. > > > Rece

Re: updating live CD: does it result in more up-to-date installations?

| From: Bruno Wolff III | On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 12:16:29 -0400, | "D. Hugh Redelmeier" wrote: | >If I install from this stick, will the installed system be already | >updated? | The way things currently work the anwser is yes. The file system is | essentially copied off the live image for

Re: How to get rid of the clock lock screen

On Tue, 09 Jul 2013 01:01:09 +0930 Tim wrote: > I'm > damn sick of some of the stupid things that have happened, in the way of > alleged improvements, over the years. But at least my new Asus motherboard has an earth-shattering new improvement that actually makes sense: You can hit DEL or F2 to

Re: Fwd: Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

On Mon, 8 Jul 2013, davidscha...@mobilicity.blackberry.com wrote: Sorry for top posting this. My bb won't allow bottom posting. My $0.02 on this topic. My nfs server is running fc5. Very outdated but I see no reason to upgrade it as there are 3 firewalls between it and the Net. It is doing w

Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19

On 07/08/2013 11:24 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > have fun Technologies such as open proxies and bot-nets enable an experienced cracker to attack your system within a few seconds. P.S. Please do not snip replies to exclude information that is relevant to the conversation. It makes you look like a tr

Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/08/2013 04:02 AM, James Hogarth wrote: > > > > Ah, SELinux again... Kinda' defeats the purpose these days, doesn't it? > > > > No it's doing exactly what it should be doing ... in a 'normal' usercase > there's no need for SSH to be on a por

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

"Garry T. Williams" writes: > On 7-7-13 19:21:33 lee wrote: >> So we have three options to upgrade: >> >> 1.) the recommended fedup which probably doesn't work >> 2.) the untested and unsupported way using yum which might work or >> not >> 3.) move away from Fedora and install a different distri

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

Heinz Diehl writes: > On 07.07.2013, lee wrote: > >> That is not an option. I can't start from scratch every half year and >> waste a week or two to get the system back to how I need it. > > Have you considered to switch to some kind of "rolling distribution", > then? I for myself like very muc

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

Frank Murphy writes: > No. 2.) might not work anymore >> sooner or later, if it works at all to begin with --- and it's all >> guesswork anyway. > > yum is not guesswork. Upgrading Fedora is guesswork, especially when using yum to upgrade. > All I have updated with yum since F16, the last fres

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

Mateusz Marzantowicz writes: > If you don't want to upgrade to F19 yet, try to regenerate grub boot > menu manually using grub2-mkconfig. You'll gain some time to track > package that is trying to make you "happy" and then remove or > reconfigure it. You mean messing up booting when running 'yum

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

Reindl Harald writes: > Am 07.07.2013 19:21, schrieb lee: >> Considering that Fedora does not have a working (and tested and >> supported) upgrade method at all, such packaging guidelines seem very >> questionable. That means you're simply lucky if you manage to upgrade. >> That users are quick

Re: Fwd: Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

Alexander Volovics writes: > (It's a lot like reading math books/papers skipping the proofs > because you want to try them yourselve first). > Here you browse the guides and then experiment with anaconda. > > And François is no newcomer to the list or linux. That a non-newcomer cannot figure ou

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

On Mon, 08 Jul 2013 18:09:13 +0200 lee wrote: > So it seems that most ppl use yum to upgrade and that it mostly works. The sample size of people in this thread isn't really enough to extrapolate to 'most people', IMHO. > If that is so, then why did they ever come up with fedup? Why don't > th

Re: 138a:0018 Validity Sensors will not work

On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 1:40 AM, poma wrote: > On 06.07.2013 11:31, Jerome Yanga wrote: > > Thanks, Poma. > > > > I have compiled and installed the code in the URL you have provided. > > However, I am still seeing the same issue. > > Don't top-post, s'il vous plaît. > > That is a library part - '

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

On 07/08/2013 08:56 AM, lee wrote: Now consider the possible consequences of running a presumably pretty harmless "yum update": You can be left stranded with a non-working system and you can lose your data. What kind of reliability is that? For well over 99% of the people using Fedora this is

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

On 07/08/2013 09:02 AM, lee wrote: When you do that, how do you make sure that you don't run into a situation in which your system becomes unusable? You might end up with crucial software not running or not working anymore because other software already has been updated or hasn't been updated ye

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

On 07/08/2013 11:40 AM, Heinz Diehl wrote: And taking into account the simple fact that usually those who encounter(ed) problems are dominating the list, you have to deal with "publication bias" :-) You make an excellent point. I'm still running F17, but I plan to upgrade my laptop to 19 RSN,

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

On 08.07.2013, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > The sample size of people in this thread isn't really enough to > extrapolate to 'most people', IMHO. And taking into account the simple fact that usually those who encounter(ed) problems are dominating the list, you have to deal with "publication bias" :-)

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

On Mon, 8 Jul 2013, Joe Zeff wrote: You make an excellent point. I'm still running F17, but I plan to upgrade my laptop to 19 RSN, and once that's working properly, I'll do the same to my desktop. I skipped 18 because of all the upgrade issues I read about here and other Fedora help group

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

On 08.07.2013, Joe Zeff wrote: > I'm still running F17, but I plan to upgrade > my laptop to 19 RSN, and once that's working properly, I'll do the same to > my desktop. I skipped 18 because of all the upgrade issues I read about > here and other Fedora help groups I infest. I have two machines

Re: How to get rid of the clock lock screen

On 7/8/2013 12:38 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Tue, 09 Jul 2013 01:01:09 +0930 Tim wrote: I'm damn sick of some of the stupid things that have happened, in the way of alleged improvements, over the years. But at least my new Asus motherboard has an earth-shattering new improvement that actually

Re: Touchpad is not working anymore

No, what I've updated on Windows is the chipset. Which (supposedly) only makes Windows to recognize parts of the hardware, like the LAN card, the WiFi card and so forth. Now, there is a special disable/enable touchpad hotkey. But it just doesn't work. I've tried that in my Fedora 19, in anaconda a

Re: [389-users] Multi master replication problem (389 DS - AD)

Alberto Viana wrote: Hi man, Where I can find the 1.3.1 source to download? I tried http://directory.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Source#Directory_Server_Source_Code, but it´s not available over there. You can get it here: A source tarball is available for download at http://port389.org/sources/38

Re: [389-users] Multi master replication problem (389 DS - AD)

Hi, I got it. Everything is working fine now, so it was something in the old branch (1.3.0.4) Alberto Viana On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Noriko Hosoi wrote: > Alberto Viana wrote: > > Hi man, > > Where I can find the 1.3.1 source to download? I tried > http://directory.fedoraproject.org/

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

Reindl Harald writes: > Am 08.07.2013 20:19, schrieb lee: >>> i do not buy "you're simply lucky" after around 400 dist-upgrades >>> with yum on workstations and production servers with all sort >>> of services - i *never* rely on luck, i simply *test* and *prepare* >>> upgrades after test them ca

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

On 07/08/2013 01:10 PM, lee wrote: Your conclusion would have to be that Fedora can only reasonably be used in a professional environment like you have at your disposal and that it is totally unsuited for what they say that their user base is. No, that's *your* conclusion. I run Fedora on my p

Re: Fwd: Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 12:12:12PM +0200, François Patte wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > - Message original > Sujet: Re: rant of the day: installing fedora > Date : Mon, 08 Jul 2013 10:54:28 +0200 > De : François Patte > Organisation : Universi

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

Am 08.07.2013 17:47, schrieb D. Hugh Redelmeier: > | > if you follow this guides *strictly* and willing to learn to deal > | > wtih "package-cleanup --leaves | --problems | --orphans and > | > to understand how your OS basically works you are fine > | > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fed

Re: F19: ipv6disable=1 as boot-param ignored

Am 08.07.2013 18:16, schrieb Cristian Sava: > On Mon, 2013-07-08 at 16:15 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> syslog message at boot: >> ipv6: Loaded, but administratively disabled, reboot required to enable >> >> this does currently no longer work and every release >> the magic how to achive this is

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

Am 08.07.2013 22:10, schrieb lee: > Reindl Harald writes: > >> Am 08.07.2013 20:19, schrieb lee: i do not buy "you're simply lucky" after around 400 dist-upgrades with yum on workstations and production servers with all sort of services - i *never* rely on luck, i simply *test* a

Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19

Am 08.07.2013 17:13, schrieb Michael Cronenworth: > On 07/08/2013 10:01 AM, Tim wrote: >> And I'd certainly avoid putting anything exploitable, ever, on port >> 23456. Maybe that was just a made up example by the original poster, >> but consecutive numbers like that, and other common number sequ

Re: what has 'yum update' done?

Am 08.07.2013 20:19, schrieb lee: >> i do not buy "you're simply lucky" after around 400 dist-upgrades >> with yum on workstations and production servers with all sort >> of services - i *never* rely on luck, i simply *test* and *prepare* >> upgrades after test them carefully on clones with note a

Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19

Am 08.07.2013 18:49, schrieb Michael Cronenworth: > On 07/08/2013 11:24 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> have fun > > Technologies such as open proxies and bot-nets enable an experienced > cracker to attack your system within a few seconds. there is a *large* difference between a botnet and the typical

Re: rant of the day: installing fedora

Am 08.07.2013 22:26, schrieb Robert Holtzman: >> Also, no time for installation is displayed, I'm stcked there waiting >> for an end! >> >> Many thanks to all those crapy packagers who think that common people >> are to stupid to manage their own computer! > > Wrong! > > Everyone else seems to

Re: 138a:0018 Validity Sensors will not work

On 07/08/2013 03:25 PM, Jerome Yanga wrote: On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 1:40 AM, poma mailto:pomidorabelis...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 06.07.2013 11:31, Jerome Yanga wrote: > Thanks, Poma. > > I have compiled and installed the code in the URL you have provided. > However, I a

Re: Touchpad is not working anymore

On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Diego Vargas wrote: > Hello All! > > I've been playing with fedora a little bit and I just love it! I've have > the gnome GDM and the Cinnamon Desktop. > My Toshiba U945-S4140 is running Fedora 19 and Windows 7. Didn't like the > pre-installed Windows 8 and I just

Re: 138a:0018 Validity Sensors will not work

On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 1:40 PM, "Germán A. Racca" wrote: > On 07/08/2013 03:25 PM, Jerome Yanga wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 1:40 AM, poma > > >> wrote: >> >> On 06.07.2013 11:31, Jerome Yanga wrote: >> > Thanks, Poma. >> > >>

Re: ABI compliance checker on Fedora 19

On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 9:57 PM, Eduardo Bortolini < ebortolini.lis...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes, I forgot to mention that I tried in this way too. I tried in three > ways, first from git. after using yum and after using the link mentioned. > No success in all > > I tried -test and it worked for

Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

On 07/08/2013 03:36 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > *large* > *but* > *serious* > *ifÜ > *and* you have rate-controls *and then* > *pretty sure* > *really serious* Reindl, Please understand that your use of the English language comes across as violent and aggressive. Excessive accenting, excessive s

Urgent network help needed

I am away from home. My wife at home cannot access the internet with her laptop. I suspect the problem is in the home server I am responsible for. In brief, the internet can be accessed from the CentOS-6.4 server. Her laptop accesses a WiFi router which is connected to the server. I have to confes

Re: Mailing List Etiquette (was Re: can't run sshd on 23456 in Fedora 19)

On 07/08/2013 01:58 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Also, there is no need to send the same mail twice. I do not wish to argue with you further as this is not the first time you have been confronted about your behavior and I doubt it will be the last. You also like to get in "the last word", which

Re: 138a:0018 Validity Sensors will not work

On 07/08/2013 05:57 PM, Jerome Yanga wrote: On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 1:40 PM, "Germán A. Racca" mailto:german.ra...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 07/08/2013 03:25 PM, Jerome Yanga wrote: On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 1:40 AM, poma mailto:pomidorabelis...@gmail.com>

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