Re: [SOLVED] Re: Post Fedora 41 upgrade - sshd problem

2024-10-31 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/31/24 9:01 PM, Tim via users wrote: On Thu, 2024-10-31 at 19:39 -0400, Max Pyziur wrote: Indeed, there was a ssh_config.rpmnew file that was present. One of the things I like about doing command line system updates (and I don't know if the *current* GUI based systems do this), was I coul

Re: stop posting replies of replies of replies of replies of replies of replies of replies...

2024-10-31 Thread Thomas Dineen
So when do you plan to actually STOP POSTING? On 10/31/2024 9:20 PM, Tim via users wrote: On Fri, 2024-11-01 at 09:00 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: I understand the list guidelines specify to not top post, which I follow, I was just curious as to why. I hadn't looked at the guidelines for ages,

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-10-31 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2024-10-31 at 07:47 -0400, Max Pyziur wrote: > CentOS 7 went EOL in June. To that end, what does the Fedora > community recommend as a replacement/alternative? That may depend on your reasons for using CentOS. You (in a later message) mentioned one reason being because you also used a Cen

Re: stop posting replies of replies of replies of replies of replies of replies of replies...

2024-10-31 Thread Tim via users
On Fri, 2024-11-01 at 09:00 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: > I understand the list guidelines specify to not top post, which I > follow, I was just curious as to why. I hadn't looked at the guidelines for ages, but it *does* help *some* people actually pay attention to following them when it gives s

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-10-31 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 11:40 PM Tim via users wrote: > > On Thu, 2024-10-31 at 19:16 -0500, Roger Heflin wrote: > > And note I was the person that worked the hard cases for a company > > with > 5,000 licenses, so if most senior linux resource at a company > > with that sort of licenses are gettin

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Post Fedora 41 upgrade - sshd problem

2024-10-31 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2024-10-31 at 19:39 -0400, Max Pyziur wrote: > Indeed, there was a ssh_config.rpmnew file that was present. One of the things I like about doing command line system updates (and I don't know if the *current* GUI based systems do this), was I could see comments being logged in its progress

Re: USB-Problems on Fedora 40

2024-10-31 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/31/24 3:34 AM, Anca Tibor Attila wrote: On my machine (Thinkpad E485), running Fedora 40 with all latest updates (Kernel 6.11.5-200.fc40.x86_64) usb ports stopped working. On boot my external Harddrive (connected through a hub) starts working, but when I reach the GNOME login screen, ever

How do I check to see if my xorg display manager is running?

2024-10-31 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
Fedora 39 How do I check to see if my xorg display manager is running? # systemctl status display-manager.service Unit display-manager.service could not be found. # dnf provides display-manager ... Error: No matches found. Many thanks, -T -- ___ use

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-10-31 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2024-10-31 at 19:16 -0500, Roger Heflin wrote: > And note I was the person that worked the hard cases for a company > with > 5,000 licenses, so if most senior linux resource at a company > with that sort of licenses are getting this story then everyone else > is screwed.. > > All paid gets

Re: USB-Problems on Fedora 40

2024-10-31 Thread Tim via users
On Thu, 2024-10-31 at 10:34 +, Anca Tibor Attila wrote: > On my machine (Thinkpad E485), running Fedora 40 with all latest updates > (Kernel 6.11.5-200.fc40.x86_64) usb ports stopped working. On boot my > external Harddrive (connected through a hub) starts working, but when I > reach the GNO

Re: Can't remove xWayland

2024-10-31 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/31/24 5:56 PM, Ryan Bach via users wrote: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/1dqeeme/gnome_47_can_be_built_without_x11_and_xwayland/ That's nice, but there's no way Fedora is going to do that anytime soon. -- ___ users mailing list

Re: Can't remove xWayland

2024-10-31 Thread Ryan Bach via users
gnome_47_can_be_built_without_x11_and_xwayland/ -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-c

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-10-31 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/31/24 19:08, Go Canes wrote: On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 7:39 PM ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I don't use the server install of Fedora though. I use a Live USB. Then I dnf whatever server programs I want. That keeps me from having a tons of junk I don't use running. WIth the Server netin

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-10-31 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/31/24 18:51, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 9:37 PM Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 31 Oct 2024 18:27:43 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: And Bugzilla got things fixed Not everything. See: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=451562 Reported 2008, now listed

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-10-31 Thread Go Canes
On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 7:39 PM ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > I don't use the server install of Fedora though. I use a > Live USB. Then I dnf whatever server programs I want. > That keeps me from having a tons of junk I don't use > running. WIth the Server netinstall ISO you can control what

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-10-31 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 9:37 PM Tom Horsley wrote: > > On Thu, 31 Oct 2024 18:27:43 -0700 > ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > > And Bugzilla got things fixed > > Not everything. See: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=451562 > > Reported 2008, now listed on the historic bug register :

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-10-31 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 31 Oct 2024 18:27:43 -0700 ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > And Bugzilla got things fixed Not everything. See: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=451562 Reported 2008, now listed on the historic bug register :-). -- ___ users maili

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-10-31 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/31/24 17:16, Roger Heflin wrote: On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 6:39 PM ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I found RHEL and friends too frustrating to use. They freeze their stuff so as to not have upgrade issues occur. Problem is they freeze the good and the bad. And it is like pulling teeth t

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Post Fedora 41 upgrade - sshd problem

2024-10-31 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 7:40 PM Max Pyziur wrote: > > > On 10/31/2024 1:32 PM EDT Charlie Dennett wrote: > > > > > /etc/ssh/ssh_config line 57: Bad key types > > > 'ssh-rsa,ssh-dss,rsa-sha2-512,rsa-sha2-256,ecdsa-sha2-nistp256,ssh-ed25519'. > > > /etc/ssh/ssh_config line 58: Bad key types > >

Re: Can't remove xWayland

2024-10-31 Thread Ryan Bach via users
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/1dqeeme/gnome_47_can_be_built_without_x11_and_xwayland/ -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct:

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-10-31 Thread Roger Heflin
On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 6:39 PM ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > I found RHEL and friends too frustrating to use. They > freeze their stuff so as to not have upgrade issues > occur. Problem is they freeze the good and the bad. > And it is like pulling teeth to get the to fix anything, > unless

Re: Can't remove xWayland

2024-10-31 Thread Ryan Bach via users
Not using any app that uses xwayland like steam, etc. -- ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/cod

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-10-31 Thread Thomas Dineen
Use Debian: CentOS8 would not run on my newest AMD Processor Boards! On 10/31/2024 11:49 AM, Thomas Cameron wrote: On 10/31/24 6:47 AM, Max Pyziur wrote: Greetings, My personal setup is three Fedora machines (two laptops), a Windows 10 laptop, and an older desktop used for backup/storage.

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-10-31 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 10/31/24 06:59, Jeffrey Walton wrote: I use Fedora Server in place of CentOS. I made the switch years ago. It was too frustrating trying to run a modern LAMP stack with a modern Wiki on RHEL or CentOS due to the antique software. I found RHEL and friends too frustrating to use. They freeze

Re: Strange DNF Post Install Script Message With F41

2024-10-31 Thread Colin J Thomson
Hi, On Thursday 31 October 2024 22:46:29 Greenwich Mean Time Stephen Morris wrote: > HI, > Following Patrick's thread about dnf tracer plugin I installed that > plugin again and got the following strange message that I have never > seen before: > > >> Running trigger-install scriptlet: > >

[SOLVED] Re: Post Fedora 41 upgrade - sshd problem

2024-10-31 Thread Max Pyziur
> On 10/31/2024 1:32 PM EDT Charlie Dennett wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 10:48 AM Max Pyziur wrote: > > Greetings again, [deleted for the sake of brevity] > > /etc/ssh/ssh_config line 57: Bad key types > > 'ssh-rsa,ssh-dss,rsa-sha2-512,rsa-sha2-256,ecdsa-sha2-nistp256,ssh

Re: How to install new kernels in grub?

2024-10-31 Thread Go Canes
On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 6:28 PM Stephen Morris wrote: > Looking at my efi environment, I have, gcdia32.efi gcdx64.efi grubia32.efi > grubx64.efi mmia32.efi mmx64.efi shim.efi shimia32.efi and shimx64.efi. I'm > not sure where all of these have come from unless it is because I'm running > an AMD

Strange DNF5 Functionality

2024-10-31 Thread Stephen Morris
Hi,     With the upgrade to DNF5, when I issue sudo dnf upgrade, for all package upgrades it lists the package that is being replaced and lists the repository as being , why is it specifying anything for the repository of the installed package? regards, Steve OpenPGP_0x1EBE7C07B0F7242C.asc

Strange DNF Post Install Script Message With F41

2024-10-31 Thread Stephen Morris
HI,     Following Patrick's thread about dnf tracer plugin I installed that plugin again and got the following strange message that I have never seen before: Running trigger-install scriptlet: glibc-common-0:2.40-3.fc41.x86_64warning: posix.fork(): .fork(), .exec(), .wait() and .redirect2null

Re: How to install new kernels in grub?

2024-10-31 Thread Stephen Morris
On 31/10/24 10:06, Go Canes wrote: On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 6:11 PM Stephen Morris wrote: On 30/10/24 11:51, Go Canes wrote: My output from efibootmgr is below. The boot order specified in the output is the boot order specified in my motherboard bios, not the boot orders specified in the

Re: stop posting replies of replies of replies of replies of replies of replies of replies...

2024-10-31 Thread Stephen Morris
On 31/10/24 09:25, Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/30/2024 03:46 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: although having said that I also get annoyed if I have to read through multiple mail threads to get the full context of what the reply is addressing, and in my view it is bad mail etiquette to not include that con

Re: Can't remove xWayland

2024-10-31 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 10/31/24 12:06 PM, Ryan Bach via users wrote: Not using any app that uses xwayland like steam, etc. You might be surprised by which apps are still using X. But it's a required piece for gnome-shell anyway, so you can't remove it. -- ___ users mail

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-10-31 Thread Roger Heflin
On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 3:44 PM Max Pyziur wrote: > > > > Use Red Hat Enterprise Linux. You can do so for zero cost. > > > > Go to https://developers.redhat.com/ and sign up. Then you can download > > and use RHEL on up to 16 your development/personal use machines. You can > > use RHEL virtualizat

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-10-31 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 10/31/24 3:43 PM, Max Pyziur wrote: Thank you for the recommendation. Reviewing your link, I see that "Developer membership benefits" are available for only one year. Is this really the case or is it extendable in some way? Per the other answer that I received on this thread, I'm inclined t

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-10-31 Thread Max Pyziur
> On 10/31/2024 2:49 PM EDT Thomas Cameron > wrote: > > > On 10/31/24 6:47 AM, Max Pyziur wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > My personal setup is three Fedora machines (two laptops), a Windows 10 > > laptop, and an older desktop used for backup/storage. > > > > The last has been running a varia

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-10-31 Thread Thomas Cameron
On 10/31/24 6:47 AM, Max Pyziur wrote: Greetings, My personal setup is three Fedora machines (two laptops), a Windows 10 laptop, and an older desktop used for backup/storage. The last has been running a variant of CentOS for the longest time; backup is done hourly on the Fedora machines using

Re: Post Fedora 41 upgrade - sshd problem

2024-10-31 Thread Charlie Dennett
On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 10:48 AM Max Pyziur wrote: > Greetings again, > > Post-upgrade and using ssh to access other machines via ssh I get the > following error: > pyz@Gryphon ~> ssh brill -v > OpenSSH_9.8p1, OpenSSL 3.2.2 4 Jun 2024 > debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config > deb

Re: CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-10-31 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 7:47 AM Max Pyziur wrote: > > My personal setup is three Fedora machines (two laptops), a Windows 10 > laptop, and an older desktop used for backup/storage. > > The last has been running a variant of CentOS for the longest time; backup is > done hourly on the Fedora machi

Post Fedora 41 upgrade - sshd problem

2024-10-31 Thread Max Pyziur
Greetings again, Post-upgrade and using ssh to access other machines via ssh I get the following error: pyz@Gryphon ~> ssh brill -v OpenSSH_9.8p1, OpenSSL 3.2.2 4 Jun 2024 debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config.d/20-systemd-

Re: USB-Problems on Fedora 40

2024-10-31 Thread George N. White III
On Thu, Oct 31, 2024 at 7:34 AM Anca Tibor Attila wrote: > Hello, > > I searched a bit around, but didn't find anything similar (tried to find > somethin in bugzilla...). > > On my machine (Thinkpad E485), running Fedora 40 with all latest updates > (Kernel 6.11.5-200.fc40.x86_64) usb ports stopp

Is the dnf tracer plugin working?

2024-10-31 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
I upgraded to F41 yesterday, and everything seemed to go smoothly. However a subsequent run of "dnf upgrade" updated firefox, but didn't tell me to restart it. Since I didn't notice this I kept using the (now outdated) Firefox that was already running, until FF suddenly told me it wanted to restart

[Off-topic] Data Centers

2024-10-31 Thread Max Pyziur
Greetings, The data center industry has been developing on steroids over the last ten years. It's a phenomenon that is moving from my periphery of understanding to one that is becoming part of daily jargon. I've been trying to learn as quickly as possible given daily bread time constraints:

CentOS - what to use now that CentOS 7 is EOL

2024-10-31 Thread Max Pyziur
Greetings, My personal setup is three Fedora machines (two laptops), a Windows 10 laptop, and an older desktop used for backup/storage. The last has been running a variant of CentOS for the longest time; backup is done hourly on the Fedora machines using rsync. CentOS 7 went EOL in June. To

USB-Problems on Fedora 40

2024-10-31 Thread Anca Tibor Attila
Hello, I searched a bit around, but didn't find anything similar (tried to find somethin in bugzilla...). On my machine (Thinkpad E485), running Fedora 40 with all latest updates (Kernel 6.11.5-200.fc40.x86_64) usb ports stopped working. On boot my external Harddrive (connected through a hub