RE: [techtalk] SMP kernels and ISO images ...

2001-05-25 Thread James Sutherland
On Thu, 24 May 2001, Angela Nash wrote: > The newer versions of LILO let you boot from a disk over 8GB with no > problems. The latest versions of about all distributions ship it. It's > been out for a while now. LBA32 mode, yes - but it does need a post-98 BIOS. Julie's new machine should be f

[techtalk] Sick of surf and porn addicts

2001-05-25 Thread Liese
Hi, This question is not really linux related but i'm getting desperate. There are about 300 users in the company where i work. Our website is running on a local system, using suse, apache and mysql. Last year we had to upgrade our line to the outside world, not because the incoming traffic (t

Re: [techtalk] Sick of surf and porn addicts

2001-05-25 Thread Mark Foster
Hey Liese, I have the same responsibility in my company, although my situation is only 1/10 the size. My attitude at this point is that im not going to restrict browsing. I do however have a running tail on the squid log. Get each user to read, and sign, a computer usage agreement contract. T

Re: [techtalk] Sick of surf and porn addicts

2001-05-25 Thread Paul Hardacre
At 11:58 25/05/2001, Liese wrote: >Hi, >And we are not allowed to step up to a user and say "hey, our logs show >that last month you've been surfing porn sites for over 20 hours, you must >stop this", or "We've noticed you have about 100MB of pornography >attachments on your drive, you are

Re: [techtalk] SMP kernels and ISO images ...

2001-05-25 Thread Lorne Gutz
On Thursday 24 May 2001 22:38, Julie wrote: > From: Angela Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > The newer versions of LILO let you boot from a disk over 8GB with no > > problems. The latest versions of about all distributions ship it. It's > > been out for a while now. > > Thanks. > > I took the machi

Re: [techtalk] Sick of surf and porn addicts

2001-05-25 Thread James Sutherland
On Fri, 25 May 2001, Liese wrote: > This question is not really linux related but i'm getting desperate. > There are about 300 users in the company where i work. Our website is > running on a local system, using suse, apache and mysql. Last year we had > to upgrade our line to the outside world,

Re: [techtalk] Re: Linux-Mandrake

2001-05-25 Thread Scott
At 07:09 PM 5/24/2001 +0100, James Sutherland wrote: >8.0, updated a few days ago. I'm not blaming Mandrake for breaking Perl in >an update - Debian managed to break sendmail not too long ago, as Michelle >found; every distro breaks things occasionally. What I *AM* ditching >Mandrake for is replac

Re: [techtalk] Sick of surf and porn addicts

2001-05-25 Thread Jacqueline McNally
Paul wrote: >Not really wanting to plug any commercial products but it does sound like >the only way would be to stick in some sort of filtering proxy that uses >content-based filtering.. I've not come across any for squid myself but >the company I work for was looking at a product called SurfC

[techtalk] Screen Savers

2001-05-25 Thread Scott
Not sure if any one on the list get's Tech TV, but they have a 90 minute call in geek show nightly called The Screen Savers. Last night they did a show from Austin and one of the segments was a tour of the University of Texas at Austin computer center. They showed off one of their main networ

[techtalk] scan or attempted break?

2001-05-25 Thread ktb
I was wondering if this is an attempt at break in or just a scan? This person has run this on two separate occasions. Looks like they are trying to do something to an NT server. Doesn't do them much good on a Linux box;) oz:/var/log# grep /scripts/ httpd/* httpd/access_log:128.242.217.204 - -

Re: [techtalk] Re: Linux-Mandrake

2001-05-25 Thread Michelle Murrain
On Friday 25 May 2001 08:45 am, Scott wrote: > Don't you think Mandrake has done some wonder's for the desktop though? > While I feel like I am outgrowing it right now and want the comfort of the > command line > more than a wizard--there are benefits of setting things up the way they > did. Hec

Re: [techtalk] Re: Linux-Mandrake

2001-05-25 Thread Scott
At 09:33 AM 5/25/2001 -0400, Michelle Murrain wrote: >I think that Mandrake is great for Linux newbies. I think it's arguably the >best distro for newbies. But I think it's also easy to outgrow. I'm getting >to the point now where I'm feeling like I either want Debian or Slackware - >nothing else

Re: [techtalk] scan or attempted break?

2001-05-25 Thread Scott
At 08:26 AM 5/25/2001 -0500, ktb wrote: >I was wondering if this is an attempt at break in or just a scan? This >person has run this on two separate occasions. Looks like they are >trying to do something to an NT server. Doesn't do them much good on a >Linux box;) > >oz:/var/log# grep /scripts/

Re: [techtalk] Re: Linux-Mandrake

2001-05-25 Thread piglet
On 5/25/01 8:33 AM, "Michelle Murrain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think that Mandrake is great for Linux newbies. I think it's arguably the > best distro for newbies. But I think it's also easy to outgrow. I'm getting > to the point now where I'm feeling like I either want Debian or Slack

Re: [techtalk] Re: Linux-Mandrake

2001-05-25 Thread James Sutherland
On Fri, 25 May 2001, Scott wrote: > At 07:09 PM 5/24/2001 +0100, James Sutherland wrote: > >8.0, updated a few days ago. I'm not blaming Mandrake for breaking Perl in > >an update - Debian managed to break sendmail not too long ago, as Michelle > >found; every distro breaks things occasionally. W

[techtalk] SSL certificates

2001-05-25 Thread Michelle Murrain
Hi folks, Is there anywhere an "SSL certificates for dummies?" I've been looking around for good docs, and the SSL stuff pretty well confuses me, and none of the docs that I've found help. I did finally get apache-ssl to work fine, but for some reason that is not apparent to me, Internet expl

Re: [techtalk] SSL certificates

2001-05-25 Thread Julie Meloni
> I did finally get apache-ssl to work fine, but for some reason that is not > apparent to me, Internet explorer (not netscape, not opera) says that the > "identity certificate is invalid". There are a nice set of IE/SSL bugs. If you thought the initial SSL documentation wasinteresting,

Re: [techtalk] Screen Savers

2001-05-25 Thread Kath
Thats awesome that they are using Linux (And Debian at that!). I just got a job at USOnet and they are exclusively a WindowsNT/2000 shop and I want to convince them to run a few Linux boxes. :) - Kath - Original Message - From: "Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent:

Re: [techtalk] Re: rpms r bad? (was Linux-Mandrake)

2001-05-25 Thread Walt
I'm not disputing the negativity concerning RPMS, as I've had my annoyances with them, occassionally. (Mostly when I first started working with RedHat.) However, I would like to understand some of the criticism they get. What is it that makes compiling from source better than installing from an RP

Re: [techtalk] Re: rpms r bad? (was Linux-Mandrake)

2001-05-25 Thread Raven, corporate courtesan
Heya -- > I'm not disputing the negativity concerning RPMS, > as I've had my annoyances with them, occassionally. > (Mostly when I first started working with RedHat.) > However, I would like to understand some of the > criticism they get. What is it that makes compiling > from source better than

Re: [techtalk] SSL certificates

2001-05-25 Thread Michelle Murrain
On Friday 25 May 2001 11:20 am, Julie Meloni wrote: > > I did finally get apache-ssl to work fine, but for some reason that is > > not apparent to me, Internet explorer (not netscape, not opera) says that > > the "identity certificate is invalid". > > There are a nice set of IE/SSL bugs. If you t

[techtalk] Network / Firwall config files for Mandrake 8

2001-05-25 Thread Jason Smith
Hello all, I just installed Mandrake 8.0 to be used as a gateway for my home network, because I heard it was really good for newbs like myself. (Actually I have been working with *nix OS's for about a year now, but it was always as a user on someone else's box. This is my first stint as an ad

RE: [techtalk] Re: rpms r bad? (was Linux-Mandrake)

2001-05-25 Thread Brian Sweeney
> Two things, for me. One is that when you compile from source, you > can set compile-time options, change the default install directory, > things like that. >With an RPM, all of that gets decided for you. > There are usually one or two parameters that I want to tweak, so I tend > to favor c

Re: [techtalk] Re: Linux-Mandrake

2001-05-25 Thread Scott
At 08:54 AM 5/25/2001 -0500, piglet wrote: >I notice that no one ever mentions Corel as a newbie distroI'm >surrounded by RH folks, and I work on RH boxen at work, but it's always been >confusing to me. Now that I'm running linux on my normal workbox, I opted >to go with Corel because it seem

[techtalk] sshd recvd big packet?

2001-05-25 Thread Brian Sweeney
Hey all- I think I may have posted this before. If so, sorry for the repeat. Here's the deal; I'm getting the following in my logs for a few different machines: sshd[8683]: channel 3: rcvd big packet 2908, maxpack 2048 sshd[8683]: channel 3: rcvd big packet 2940, maxpack 2048 sshd[8683]: chann

Re: [techtalk] Re: rpms r not-so-good.

2001-05-25 Thread Walt
Raven quoth (sorry :-): > Apt-get will update a package's dependencies intelligently. So if >you need a bunch of new crypt libraries with your SSH or SSL, apt get >will tell you that, and often get them for you. Sounds like apt-get has RPM's basic functionality combined with some of the neat

Re: [techtalk] scan or attempted break?

2001-05-25 Thread Raven, corporate courtesan
Heya -- > I was wondering if this is an attempt at break in or just a scan? > This person has run this on two separate occasions. Looks like they > are trying to do something to an NT server. Doesn't do them much good > on a Linux box;) > > oz:/var/log# grep /scripts/ httpd/* > httpd/access_l

Re: [techtalk] SSL certificates

2001-05-25 Thread Julie Meloni
Hi - > I'm running apache-ssl, not apache with mod_ssl (would that be a better > choice?) "Better" is relative. :) I think it's pretty much six of one, half-dozen of the other. I know _I_ use mod_ssl only because I was piecing a lot of things together and mod_ssl allowed me to do that eas

Re: [techtalk] Re: rpms r not-so-good.

2001-05-25 Thread ktb
On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 12:48:24PM -0400, Walt wrote: > Raven quoth (sorry :-): > > Apt-get will update a package's dependencies intelligently. So if > >you need a bunch of new crypt libraries with your SSH or SSL, apt get > >will tell you that, and often get them for you. > > Sounds like ap

RE: [techtalk] Re: rpms r not-so-good.

2001-05-25 Thread Brian Sweeney
> It is so much nicer to - > # apt-get update > # apt-get upgrade > Which downloads, installs security updates and restarts any services > upgraded... Well, when RedHat's up2date software (the things that links into their RedHatNetwork; sounds similar to the above functionality) actually WORKS,

Re: [techtalk] Re: rpms r not-so-good.

2001-05-25 Thread Raven, corporate courtesan
Heya -- Quoth Walt: > Thank you, I had wondered about the compiling vs. RPMS thing for some > time and it seems that a lot (/. as well as people on here) of folks > prefer apt- get to rpm so I figured there must be reasons. Fixing your dependency problems is really the reason to love apt-ge

Re: [techtalk] Re: rpms r not-so-good.

2001-05-25 Thread ktb
On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 10:29:27AM -0700, Brian Sweeney wrote: > > > It is so much nicer to - > > # apt-get update > > # apt-get upgrade > > Which downloads, installs security updates and restarts any services > > upgraded... > > Well, when RedHat's up2date software (the things that links into t

Re: [techtalk] Network / Firwall config files for Mandrake 8

2001-05-25 Thread Raven, corporate courtesan
Heya -- Quoth Jason: > Anyway, I was wondering if anyone could tell me (or point me to a > site) about the main configuration files for setting up my > NIC's/firewall etc. I know that there's netconf and linuxconf, but > I'd like to have more control over what they are really doing: > setting up

Re: [techtalk] sshd recvd big packet?

2001-05-25 Thread Raven, corporate courtesan
Heya -- Quoth Brian: > I'm getting the following in my logs for a few different machines: > > sshd[8683]: channel 3: rcvd big packet 2908, maxpack 2048 > sshd[8683]: channel 3: rcvd big packet 2940, maxpack 2048 Ssh only accepts packets that are 2048 bytes or smaller in size (maxpack 2048)

Re: [techtalk] Sick of surf and porn addicts

2001-05-25 Thread Kai MacTane
At 5/25/01 05:22 AM , James Sutherland wrote: >How big's the line in question?? Presumably it's not a particularly busy >WWW site you host? If I understand you correctly, the problem is not the >content they are downloading, but the fact they're using a large amount of >bandwidth to do it? This

[techtalk] disaster recovery of linux server

2001-05-25 Thread wildgrass
Dear all, I am a newbie to this list and also a newbie to linux. I am seeking advice of anyone who has knowledge/experience of disaster recovery of a linux server. I have a production linux box running RH6.2, and since it is running proprietary unsupported software (Groupwise WebAccess using A

Re: [techtalk] SSL certificates

2001-05-25 Thread Almut Behrens
On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 11:57:17AM -0400, Michelle Murrain wrote: > On Friday 25 May 2001 11:20 am, Julie Meloni wrote: > > > I did finally get apache-ssl to work fine, but for some reason that is > > > not apparent to me, Internet explorer (not netscape, not opera) says that > > > the "identity c

RE: [techtalk] Re: rpms r bad? (was Linux-Mandrake)

2001-05-25 Thread Mandi
While we're on the subject, and since you mention deploying software to N boxen on a network, I have a question. Does anyone have any insight in taking an rpm, modifying a couple files, and repackaging the rpm? I've been reading the rpm man page as I get time, but it's huge, and I'm not interes

RE: [techtalk] Re: rpms r bad? (was Linux-Mandrake)

2001-05-25 Thread Daniel Manrique
> Does anyone have any insight in taking an rpm, modifying a couple files, > and repackaging the rpm? I've been reading the rpm man page as I get > time, but it's huge, and I'm not interested in rebuilding rpms from > source, i'd just like to incorporate our site-specific configurations for > stu

RE: [techtalk] Re: rpms r bad? (was Linux-Mandrake)

2001-05-25 Thread coldfire
> While we're on the subject, and since you mention deploying software to N > boxen on a network, I have a question. > > Does anyone have any insight in taking an rpm, modifying a couple files, > and repackaging the rpm? I've been reading the rpm man page as I get > time, but it's huge, and I'm

RE: [techtalk] Re: rpms r not-so-good and Linux-Mandrake

2001-05-25 Thread Raven, corporate courtesan
Heya -- > I've found mandrake-update works incredibly well, and is almost > always up. It too, makes things very, very simple. I haven't used it myself, but have also heard many pleased murmurings about it from friends. > You know, I have to chuckle at the folks who are calling Mandrake a

Re: [techtalk] Re: rpms r bad?

2001-05-25 Thread Raven, corporate courtesan
Heya -- > Some debianite will have to correct me, but as I understand, debian > has a package managing tool (dpkg). apt-get is basically a front-end > with all that cool functionality... Yep, that's right. Using raw dpkg is just ugly. If you get really technical, apt is the front end, an

Re: [techtalk] Re: rpms r not-so-good and Linux-Mandrake

2001-05-25 Thread ktb
On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 05:37:49PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi, Brian, and everyone else, > > > Well, when RedHat's up2date software (the things that links into their > > RedHatNetwork; sounds similar to the above functionality) actually WORKS, > > it's pretty cool. Problem is, about

Re: [techtalk] Screen Savers

2001-05-25 Thread Rosie Nelson
And if you do get TechTV and were like me and said, "oh, I'll get the tapes from someone" when you were running late and realized a bit later that everyone I knew did that and no one taped it, the show where they visit the university will air again on Sunday at 5pm and 1am according to their s

Re: [techtalk] Sick of surf and porn addicts

2001-05-25 Thread Penguina
Why not write a script to put each users' web access cache list (from the squid cache) up on an intranet web site--viewable by their line supervisor--you know, the one who approved the account in the first place. Then leave it up to them to figure out what to do. In one place I can remember, th

Re: [techtalk] Re: rpms r bad?

2001-05-25 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 05:09:01PM -0500, Daniel Manrique wrote: > > Does anyone have any insight in taking an rpm, modifying a couple files, > > and repackaging the rpm? I've been reading the rpm man page as I get > > time, but it's huge, and I'm not interested in rebuilding rpms from > > source

[techtalk] .htaccess problem

2001-05-25 Thread terry
I'm trying to enable passwords for access to my apache webserver. Can someone spot where I am going wrong? Thanks for your help. I have edited the httpd.conf file. I have: # First, we configure the "default" to be a very restrictive set of # permissions.

RE: [techtalk] Re: rpms r not-so-good and Linux-Mandrake

2001-05-25 Thread Stacy Brock
> Methinks there is a significant amount of > Debian snobbishness floating around, not too unlike > the Gnome vs. KDE desktop wars. Why a distro has to > be un-user friendly to be cool is beyond me, and that > certainly is Debian's reputation. Oooh, I just have to jump into the thread on this on

Re: [techtalk] .htaccess problem

2001-05-25 Thread Almut Behrens
On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 09:19:11PM -0700, terry wrote: > I'm trying to enable passwords for access to > my apache webserver. > > I get the following error: > > Internal Server Error > > The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was > unable to complete your request. >