Re: [techtalk] About prettyphysicslady on the linuxchix techtalk list...

2001-05-13 Thread Mary Gardiner
On Sat, May 12, 2001 at 09:31:05PM -0700, Marisa Mack wrote: > > Port State Service > 21/tcp openftp > 22/tcp openssh > 23/tcp opentelnet > 25/tcp opensmtp > 80/tcp openhttp > 110/tcpopenpop-3 > 111/tcpopen

[techtalk] Fwd: Question re: Firewalls

2001-05-13 Thread Kriselda Jarnsaxa
I have no experience setting up a firewall (except for the "preconfigured" kind you can get for windows), so I don't have a lot of understanding about how to firewall my Linux system. What's the best place to find that kind of information? Thanks! Kriselda -- http://thunderfyre.net ___

Re: [techtalk] Fwd: Question re: Firewalls

2001-05-13 Thread Mary Gardiner
On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 02:33:47AM -0500, Kriselda Jarnsaxa wrote: > I have no experience setting up a firewall (except for the "preconfigured" > kind you can get for windows), so I don't have a lot of understanding about > how to firewall my Linux system. What's the best place to find that kind

Re: [techtalk] Fwd: Question re: Firewalls

2001-05-13 Thread James Sutherland
On Sun, 13 May 2001, Kriselda Jarnsaxa wrote: > I have no experience setting up a firewall (except for the "preconfigured" > kind you can get for windows), so I don't have a lot of understanding about > how to firewall my Linux system. What's the best place to find that kind of > information? I

Re: [techtalk] Fwd: Question re: Firewalls

2001-05-13 Thread Kriselda Jarnsaxa
Mary -- Thanks for the link ! James -- Thanks for the info -- I'll look into it. > What sort of firewalling do you need Basic general protection to and from the Internet. I'm running Linux on an individual computer that, technically, is linked to two other computers in the house (the Wi

Re: [techtalk] Security, experience, knowledge, etc.

2001-05-13 Thread Gina Lanik
hiyas, On Sat, 12 May 2001 13:39:26 EDT, Michelle Murrain writes: [...] >But the only way to really make sure your server is secure, sadly, is >knowledge. hm, I wonder, why "sadly"? I'm having -lots- of fun gaining the knowledge =) cheers, Gina -- The correct plural of virus is "vi". Thro

Re: [techtalk] About prettyphysicslady on the linuxchix techtalk list...

2001-05-13 Thread Gina Lanik
On Sun, 13 May 2001 11:40:24 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] >The secure free Unixes, btw, are the *BSDs and Debian. Get one of the >active sysadmins on this list to give their recommendations, if it >bothers you as much as it seems to. the security on a *nix system/box -always- depends

Re: [techtalk] Fwd: Question re: Firewalls

2001-05-13 Thread jenn
James Sutherland wrote: > If you're wanting to set up a firewall system between you and the > Internet, looking at something like Coyote Linux would be a good idea too: > they have a nice simple tarball. A sysadmin friend of mine recommends FreeBSD highly as a firewall system, as well. Appare

[techtalk] Layman's Guides to Computer Security

2001-05-13 Thread jenn
I've been gradually writing a set of lay person's guides to computer security. I just put the networking one up today - something (can't think what!) prompted me to get on (not off!) my duff and finish it.[1] These are available on my professional home page, at http://www.cyber.com.au/use

Re: [techtalk] Re: techtalk digest, Vol 1 #450 - 14 msgs

2001-05-13 Thread David Merrill
On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 11:15:38AM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snippage] > D) I posted to the linux documentation project's feedback page, > stating that there was a referencing/indexing problem with single > user mode - that a newbie (you) had had problems finding the > information about i

Re: [techtalk] Fwd: Question re: Firewalls

2001-05-13 Thread Mary Gardiner
On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 03:15:46AM -0500, Kriselda Jarnsaxa wrote: > Basic general protection to and from the Internet. I'm running Linux on an > individual computer that, technically, is linked to two other computers in > the house (the Windows side is networked fine, the Linux side isn't yet

Re: [techtalk] Layman's Guides to Computer Security

2001-05-13 Thread Rialian
> 2. Yes, I'm using 'layman' rather than 'lay person'. I needed > SOMETHING to signify that they're aimed at people who aren't > computer specialists, and 'for dummies' and 'idiots guide to' > always strikes me as insulting. Given that layman doesn't seem to be in common usage either, I didn't w

Re: [techtalk] Fwd: Question re: Firewalls

2001-05-13 Thread Harry Hoffman
Hey All, I highly recommend using OpenBSD as your firewall. The current version is 2.8 with 2.9 slated to come out in June(?). Anyway, it has never had a remote root exploit, was build and auditied with security in mind, doesn't take much to run on and ipf (the firewall utility) allows for state

[techtalk] Re: techtalk digest, Vol 1 #454 - 3 msgs

2001-05-13 Thread Linda MacPhee-Cobb
>I beg to differ. You are running Windows, using Outlook Express, I'm >not certain that you're any sort of authority on Linux operating >standards. Linda currently has her box configured in the following >manner: >I think she has far greater things to worry about than Linux single- >user mode. W

Re: [techtalk] Fwd: Question re: Firewalls

2001-05-13 Thread Raven, corporate courtesan
Heya -- Quoth Harry: > I highly recommend using OpenBSD as your firewall... it has never > had a remote root exploit, was build and auditied with security in > mind, doesn't take much to run on and ipf (the firewall utility) > allows for stateful firewalling which should be really important to

Re: [techtalk] Re: techtalk digest, Vol 1 #454 - 3 msgs

2001-05-13 Thread James Sutherland
On Sun, 13 May 2001, Linda MacPhee-Cobb wrote: > >I beg to differ. You are running Windows, using Outlook Express, I'm > >not certain that you're any sort of authority on Linux operating > >standards. Linda currently has her box configured in the following > >manner: > >I think she has far greate

Re: [techtalk] Fwd: Question re: Firewalls

2001-05-13 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Mon, 14 May 2001, Mary Gardiner wrote: > On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 03:15:46AM -0500, Kriselda Jarnsaxa wrote: > > Basic general protection to and from the Internet. I'm running Linux on an > > individual computer that, technically, is linked to two other computers in > > the house (the Windows

Re: [techtalk] Layman's Guides to Computer Security

2001-05-13 Thread Kai MacTane
At 5/13/01 04:46 AM , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >2. Yes, I'm using 'layman' rather than 'lay person'. I needed >SOMETHING to signify that they're aimed at people who aren't >computer specialists, and 'for dummies' and 'idiots guide to' >always strikes me as insulting. >Given that layman doesn't see

[techtalk] Etymology (was Re: Layman's Guides to Computer Security)

2001-05-13 Thread Kai MacTane
At 5/13/01 08:26 AM , Rialian wrote: >===As a side note..I would consider "layman" and "mankind" nonsexist, >actually. Not sure if the emtymology of the origin is absolutely correct, >but it is my understanding that the "man" comes from "manu", which means >"hand"refering to the fact that us

Re: [techtalk] Security, experience, knowledge, etc.

2001-05-13 Thread Kriselda Jarnsaxa
I know what you mean -- right now I have probably a thousand questions and am having a GREAT time trying to figure out what all I'm doing. I'm still at that point where finding a simple command can be quite exciting (especially when it solves a 3-week-old problem *g*). So far, I'm pretty much usi

Re: [techtalk] Etymology (was Re: Layman's Guides to ComputerSecurity)

2001-05-13 Thread psyche
On Sun, 13 May 2001, Kai MacTane wrote: > > In Old High German, there were two major types of "men": "wo-men" and > "wer-men". "Wo-men" were female and "wer-men" male. The "wer" in "wer-man" > is cognate with the Latin "vir", which also means "man" (in our current > sense of "adult male hum

Re: [techtalk] Re: techtalk digest, Vol 1 #454 - 3 msgs

2001-05-13 Thread Mary Gardiner
On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 01:37:26PM -0400, Linda MacPhee-Cobb wrote: > As for the troll reference I do not understand it? If I do not agree with > you I am a troll? Personal attacks weaken your aguments and show others > that your point can not stand on its own merits. It means your behaviour i

[techtalk] Stupid Question: Troll?

2001-05-13 Thread wny-tc
OK. I never claimed to be a computer "expert", but "trolls" live under bridges in my vocabulary (in childrens books mostly) or I "troll" from the back of the boat with suitable tackle and bait... "Troll" in this recent thread is apparently GeekSpeek of some sort, but for what? And I have still

Re: [techtalk] Re: techtalk digest, Vol 1 #454 - 3 msgs

2001-05-13 Thread jenn
Linda MacPhee-Cobb wrote: > If you wish for linux to become a mainstream operating system Heh. Big 'if'. I just use it because I like it, I'm not particularly an advocate. > As for not believing that a female can be pretty/do physics/do > computers/ Um. Noone's said that here - or at lea

Re: [techtalk] Stupid Question: Troll?

2001-05-13 Thread Telsa Gwynne
On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 06:10:22PM -0400 or thereabouts, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > OK. I never claimed to be a computer "expert", but "trolls" live under > bridges in my vocabulary (in childrens books mostly) or I "troll" from > the back of the boat with suitable tackle and bait... > > "Troll"

Re: [techtalk] Etymology (was Re: Layman's Guides to Computer Security)

2001-05-13 Thread jenn
Kai MacTane wrote: > In Old High German, there were two major types of "men": "wo-men" and > "wer-men". "Wo-men" were female and "wer-men" male. The "wer" in > "wer-man" is cognate with the Latin "vir", which also means "man" (in > our current sense of "adult male human"). I've heard also of

Re: [techtalk] Stupid Question: Troll?

2001-05-13 Thread jenn
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > OK. I never claimed to be a computer "expert", but "trolls" live under > bridges in my vocabulary (in childrens books mostly) or I "troll" from > the back of the boat with suitable tackle and bait... > > "Troll" in this recent thread is apparently GeekSpeek of some so

Re: [techtalk] Stupid Question: Troll?

2001-05-13 Thread Carol
I have a BrotherTroll. He's proud of the fact that he's a troll. Heck, his CB handle, when we are out 4wheeling and mudding is Troll. Carol Telsa Gwynne wrote: > On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 06:10:22PM -0400 or thereabouts, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > OK. I never claimed to be a computer "expert",

Re: [techtalk] Stupid Question: Troll?

2001-05-13 Thread coldfire
well, actually :) ... one of the many definitions of 'trawl' is "to troll." as 'troll,' when used as slang, is to search for someone or something. hell, 'troll' can also mean to sing as 'trawl' can mean to fish with an actual trawl. however, i do believe that "trawling through the bug reports"

Re: [techtalk] Security, experience, knowledge, etc.

2001-05-13 Thread Michelle Murrain
On Sunday 13 May 2001 06:41 am, Gina Lanik wrote: > hiyas, > > On Sat, 12 May 2001 13:39:26 EDT, Michelle Murrain writes: > [...] > > >But the only way to really make sure your server is secure, sadly, is > >knowledge. > > hm, I wonder, why "sadly"? I'm having -lots- of fun gaining the > knowledge

[techtalk] "Developing not Fixing"

2001-05-13 Thread Michelle Murrain
Linda's comment about how she wanted to "develop not fixing the operating system" reminded me of this joke about if OSes were airlines. I'll quote the relevant passages: WINDOWS '95 AIRLINES The terminal is very neat and clean, the attendants are all very attractive and the pilots very capable

Re: [techtalk] "Developing not Fixing"

2001-05-13 Thread Mary Gardiner
On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 10:15:41PM -0400, Michelle Murrain wrote: > UNIX EXPRESS > Each passenger brings a piece of the airplane and a box of tools to the > airport. They gather on the tarmac, arguing constantly about what kind of > plane they want to build and how to put it together. Eventuall

Re: [techtalk] Re: techtalk digest, Vol 1 #454 - 3 msgs

2001-05-13 Thread Kriselda Jarnsaxa
> as to the handle 'prettyphysicslady' 'physicslady' was taken. I had hoped, > as my female professors had encouraged us to do, that we let young women > know that girls do do physics, science and computers. Adding 'pretty' was a > way to help dispell the stereotype that only fat, ugly women wen

Re: [techtalk] "Developing not Fixing"

2001-05-13 Thread Jeff Dike
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: >From memory there is a Linux specific one: I probably am not going to be the only person to post a pointer to the whole thing, but maybe I'll be first :-) http://lark.cc.ukans.edu/~pauljohn/linux/airline.txt Jeff

Re: [techtalk] Stupid Question: Troll?

2001-05-13 Thread Kriselda Jarnsaxa
> OK. I never claimed to be a computer "expert", but "trolls" live under > bridges in my vocabulary (in childrens books mostly) or I "troll" from > the back of the boat with suitable tackle and bait... In this usage, it's essentially the same as trolling from the back of the boat, except stateme

Re: [techtalk] Almost arrested for using telnet

2001-05-13 Thread Christian MacAuley
About accessing SSH from any old place ... One of my friends is using a Java applet called Mindterm to use SSH from any web browser. He just goes to a web page where the applet is embedded. It's pretty cool, but i don't know what added security risks are involved. Anyone else know? http://www.min

[techtalk] Linux security suggestions

2001-05-13 Thread Brian Sweeney
Hey all- Man, we've been active this weekend. I didn't check my mail for a while and I've got >100 messages, LOTS from here. Then I saw the whole troll thing. Yuk. 'Nuff said. But it's nice to know that when a heated topic comes up, once again there are linuxchix all over willing to contribut

Re: [techtalk] Almost arrested for using telnet

2001-05-13 Thread Mary Gardiner
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 01:07:07AM -0400, Christian MacAuley wrote: > About accessing SSH from any old place ... > > One of my friends is using a Java applet called Mindterm to use SSH from any > web browser. He just goes to a web page where the applet is embedded. It's > pretty cool, but i don't

Re: [techtalk] Linux security suggestions

2001-05-13 Thread Mary Gardiner
On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 10:22:48PM -0700, Brian Sweeney wrote: > "The life expectancy of an unpatched, default installation of Red Hat 6.2 > server is three days. The last time we attempted to confirm this, the system > was compromised in eight hours." > -The Honeynet Project The only time I've e

Re: [techtalk] Etymology

2001-05-13 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
On Monday 14 May 2001 00:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Kai MacTane wrote: > > In Old High German, there were two major types of "men": "wo-men" and > > "wer-men". "Wo-men" were female and "wer-men" male. The "wer" in > > "wer-man" is cognate with the Latin "vir", which also means "man" (in > > ou