Re: [techtalk] X Mail client recommendations

2000-02-18 Thread Rik Hemsley
Hi Dan, You might be pleased to hear that for the last year I've been working on a mail client called 'Empath', based on the Qt and KDE libraries. Bad point: * It isn't finished yet. Looking to make it beta when KDE 2 arrives. #if Dan McGarry > Up till now, I've stayed with MS Outlook Express b

[techtalk] GMC won't open files (repost)

2000-02-18 Thread Stephan Zaniolo
I'm sorry to re-post this, but it's very difficult working in Gnome without "double click" support. I'm sure it's a stupid configuration problem somewhere (that's what all of my problems so far have turned out to be), but I can't find it and no one else seems to know what I'm talking

Re: [techtalk] X Mail client recommendations

2000-02-18 Thread Sunnanvind
At 23:47 2000-02-17 -0500, you wrote: >Up till now, I've stayed with MS Outlook Express because of laziness (and >several hundred MB of stored messages). Some recent problems with it have >sent me looking for a decent X-based mail client. I'm looking for: > >* Something that isn't netscape mai

Re: [techtalk] KDE & Big Brother

2000-02-18 Thread monashee
Thank you to Luke & Linda. proves you are never too old to learn something new if you ask the right people. Kind of wish I didn't learn about the Win option. Now five years worth of ranting was for nothing. I guess I figured the option, if it existed would be in Explorer. I had assumed the check

Re: [techtalk] Getting a computer on a network.

2000-02-18 Thread Dakota Surmonde
On Thu, 17 Feb 2000, Tania M. Morell wrote: > I don't know... what would be the same segment? The easiest way to check would be to ping it from something on the same physical hub..technically you just want to find out if computers that don't have to go through a router to talk to it can talk to

[techtalk] irc

2000-02-18 Thread Linda Gentile
Thanks Rik. I now feel like an idiot, because I said irc and meant icq. :: sigh :: :: reminds self not to type before wakening up :: And this: Latest Musings : "There's a Snake in my Boot!" (04 Feb) > No Pain, No Gain (11 feb) No pain, no fun, IMHO. You didn't read the article. There's n

Re: [techtalk] X Mail client recommendations

2000-02-18 Thread Robert Kiesling
"Dan McGarry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Up till now, I've stayed with MS Outlook Express because of laziness (and > several hundred MB of stored messages). Some recent problems with it have > sent me looking for a decent X-based mail client. I'm looking for: [Wish list omitted] I wrote an a

Re: [techtalk] GMC won't open files (repost)

2000-02-18 Thread Telsa Gwynne
On Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 12:28:50AM -0600 or thereabouts, Stephan Zaniolo wrote: [programs you expect not getting started when you click on them in Gnome] > seem to be correct. The only thing I know I've done since it worked last > was to try fixing a problem with my internet connection. For som

Re: [techtalk] KDE & Big Brother (fwd)

2000-02-18 Thread Luke Woods
> Thank you to Luke & Linda. proves you are never too old to > learn something new if you ask the right people. > Kind of wish I didn't learn about the Win option. Now five > years worth of ranting was for nothing. I guess I figured > the option, if it existed would be in Explorer. I had > assu

Re: [techtalk] X Mail client recommendations

2000-02-18 Thread Britta Koch
>* Something that isn't netscape mail. procmail[1] >* Supports multiple user accounts on multiple servers. fetchmail[1] >* Supports kill-files, or has a scripting interface that allows >spam-blocking. procmail >* Allows channeling of incoming traffic into multiple folders. procmail

Re: [techtalk] X Mail client recommendations (addendum)

2000-02-18 Thread Britta Koch
>* And, for bonus points, is threaded. if you mean multithreaded - I think tkrat is. if you mean messages are threaded - no they aren't, much to my chagrin. They aren't in cscmail, either, far as I can tell. If I ever write a mail client, it will be threaded! (I'll probably be a grandmother b

Re: [techtalk] X Mail client recommendations

2000-02-18 Thread Rik Hemsley
#if Sunnanvind > Hmm, another Good Thing would be one that allows the user to write mail > while checking; to check mail while reading, etc etc.. is that what > threaded means or does threaded refer to that you can see which mails were > in reply to which? > Sunnan Empath does both :) Actually, i

Re: [techtalk] X Mail client recommendations

2000-02-18 Thread Britta Koch
>When you load Empath, it syncs with all your folders in the background. >Then when you click on a message, it retrieves it in the background. >It does everything that may block in the background. I hate a UI >that stalls. > Tell us whether its stalls when you have 2000+ mails in your Linuxchix ma

Re: [techtalk] KDE & Big Brother (fwd)

2000-02-18 Thread Sunnanvind
On Prickle-Prickle, Chaos 49, Luke Woods wrote: > Hah. Assume nothing in Windows.. Anything you do know about it, you can > probably bet will be different with their next release. There continuity > never ceases to amaze me.. "Consistency" Hah!. Nn, and if you think the *english* windows vers

Re: [techtalk] X Mail client recommendations

2000-02-18 Thread Telsa Gwynne
On Thu, Feb 17, 2000 at 11:47:01PM -0500 or thereabouts, Dan McGarry wrote: > Up till now, I've stayed with MS Outlook Express because of laziness (and > several hundred MB of stored messages). Some recent problems with it have > sent me looking for a decent X-based mail client. I'm looking for:

Re: [techtalk] X Mail client recommendations

2000-02-18 Thread Britta Koch
>I am very curious to know what X-based mailers have that console >mailers don't. Note that I can view URLs and display pictures in mutt >when I run it in X, so that doesn't count! I think it's not so much having pics etc, but rather having buttons to click and menus to choose from. Even though

Re: [techtalk] X Mail client recommendations

2000-02-18 Thread Britta Koch
>>I am very curious to know what X-based mailers have that console >>mailers don't. Note that I can view URLs and display pictures in mutt >>when I run it in X, so that doesn't count! > Britta, who in her search for a fast browser even tried w3m, despite what she just >said... Oh, and I do use

Re: [techtalk] X Mail client recommendations

2000-02-18 Thread Rik Hemsley
#if Britta Koch > >When you load Empath, it syncs with all your folders in the background. > >Then when you click on a message, it retrieves it in the background. > >It does everything that may block in the background. I hate a UI > >that stalls. > > > Tell us whether its stalls when you have 2000

Re: [techtalk] X Mail client recommendations (addendum)

2000-02-18 Thread Rik Hemsley
#if Britta Koch > If I ever write a mail client, it will be threaded! You volunteering to help ? ;) Rik -- Dress as tourists imagine. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [techtalk] X Mail client recommendations (addendum)

2000-02-18 Thread Britta Koch
Nope, I don't know C++ and I don't like or use Qt / KDE. I'd write a mail client in python (or help the guy that's writing pygmy), when I have the time (read: when I've become a millionaire on stock options after getting a job in a startup / gone into pension / never) *** REPLY SEPARATOR

[techtalk] ICU troubles

2000-02-18 Thread Lighthouse Keeper in the Desert Sun
Okay. So discovering that it needed the devel libraries to install was one thing. I got all the files, and installed them. So I told gnomeicu to ./configure, and it gave me this error again: checking for gnome-config... no checking for gnomeConf.sh file in /usr/local/lib... not found configure

Re: [techtalk] Getting a computer on a network.

2000-02-18 Thread Jeff Dike
> I'm not at that computer now and can't run ifconfig until tomorrow but > I've tried pinging from one of our server and this is what I get: > chipshot # ping 10.254.254.245 PING 10.254.254.245 (10.254.254.245): > 56 data bytes Your box is off the net somehow. Make sure the wires are hooked up

Re: [techtalk] ICU troubles

2000-02-18 Thread Lighthouse Keeper in the Desert Sun
On Feb 18, Lighthouse Keeper in the Desert Sun conjectured: > Okay. So discovering that it needed the devel libraries to install was > one thing. I got all the files, and installed them. So I told gnomeicu > to ./configure, and it gave me this error again: > checking for gnome-config... no >

Re: [techtalk] Getting a computer on a network.

2000-02-18 Thread Tania M. Morell
Good news!, I can get to my work computer from home! Here's the wierd thing. After dialing in to work, I can telnet into it from any telnet client using the ip but if I ssh into one of the servers first and THEN try to telnet or ssh into it, it won't go. Maybe my puter won't trust the servers?

[techtalk] kdevelop

2000-02-18 Thread Raven Brooke
does anyone out there have experience with getting kdevelop to work properly? I keep getting the msg that kdbg is not found so debugging in kdevelop will not be possible. Thing is, I have instaled kdbg, and un- & re-installed kdevelop, then run setup; kdevelop still does not find kdbg. any sugg

RE: [techtalk] ICU troubles

2000-02-18 Thread Ji Lee
applet-widget.h file is included from gnome-core-devel package. ( gnome-core-devel-1.x.xx.rpm ) Once again, you can find out if you have the package by 'rpm -q -l | egrep applet-widget.h' Hrmm maybe you should use either binary package (rpm I assume). First, you won't need any of these devel lib

Re: [techtalk] ICU troubles

2000-02-18 Thread Dan Nguyen
Your missing some more devel stuff. As you see below your missing gnome-config and well without it your program wn't know where to find the panel-applet-devel stuff. I'm not sure which rpm they would be available in :( On Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 09:16:12AM -0800, Lighthouse Keeper in the Desert S

Re: [techtalk] ICU troubles

2000-02-18 Thread Lighthouse Keeper in the Desert Sun
On Feb 18, Dan Nguyen conjectured: > Your missing some more devel stuff. As you see below your missing > gnome-config and well without it your program wn't know where to find > the panel-applet-devel stuff. I'm not sure which rpm they would be > available in :( Hmm. I do have the gnome-config

Re: [techtalk] Getting a computer on a network.

2000-02-18 Thread Jeff Dike
> I can ssh to any server (there are dozens) from my puter but I can't > telnet to my puter from the servers.. I'm thinking it has something > to do with how security is set up but I don't know. I think your site has network connectivity problems. Regardless of security policy, all machines

[techtalk] BitchX and IP address

2000-02-18 Thread Subba Rao
The BitchX on my system works fine for most of my accounts. One account is not able to connect to any of the IRC servers on any IRC nets. The user and the client go with an IP address that does not exist. Connecting to port 6667 of server irc.efnet.org [refnum 0] Closing Link: user1[~[EMAIL P

Re: [techtalk] ICU troubles

2000-02-18 Thread Lighthouse Keeper in the Desert Sun
Okay... So i downloaded gnome-core-devel, ./configured, and make. Still not doing waht it's supposed to. SHould I just paste the whole make output? I'm about to say to Tartarus with it and get everybuddy. Conni cursing like a sailor at the computer -- First we go to Three Mile Island, then

Re: [techtalk] Getting a computer on a network.

2000-02-18 Thread Tamara Thompson
But Jeff, I've seen situations where ping has been turned off for security reasons. Haven't followed this thread closely, has traceroute been tried? Is telnet turned on on the machine you can't telnet to? >>> Jeff Dike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 02/18 1:03 PM >>> > I can ssh to any server (there

Re: [techtalk] Getting a computer on a network.

2000-02-18 Thread Jeff Dike
> But Jeff, I've seen situations where ping has been turned off for > security reasons. What security reasons were those? ping is a really basic tool without too many security implications (besides DOS, which can be done with any protocol). If ping has been disabled, then I'd start looking

Re: [techtalk] ICU troubles

2000-02-18 Thread Dan Nguyen
On Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 10:59:17AM -0800, Lighthouse Keeper in the Desert Sun wrote: > On Feb 18, Dan Nguyen conjectured: > > > Your missing some more devel stuff. As you see below your missing > > gnome-config and well without it your program wn't know where to find > > the panel-applet-devel s

[techtalk] virtual email hosts with sendmail

2000-02-18 Thread Stewart Larsen
I work for a small comapny and we have about 6 domain names registered. I need to set up virtual email domains. the requirements are that the mail must appear to come from [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] and be able to check their mail from home. I found a couple references on the web an

Re: [techtalk] Getting a computer on a network.

2000-02-18 Thread gandalf
I may be wrong on this, I haven't really been following the thread all that intently. if the admin setup the security to reject ICMP, then ping wouldn't work, and neither would traceroute. While ICMP seems like a pointless thing to block, other things use ICMP such as snmp, I believe, in which c

Re: [techtalk] virtual email hosts with sendmail

2000-02-18 Thread Nicole Zimmerman
Have you tried putting both domains in your /etc/aliases file? -nicole Stewart Larsen wrote: > > I work for a small comapny and we have about 6 domain names registered. I need > to set up virtual email domains. the requirements are that the mail must appear > to come from [EMAIL PROTECTED] or

Re: [techtalk] virtual email hosts with sendmail

2000-02-18 Thread aaron
You will probably need to: add the domains to sendmail.cw format: just list the domains on seperate lines add any virtual user mapping to virtual* files (don't recall the formatting) add relay permission (by domain) to access* files

[techtalk] Subnets + Routing "Off Topic"

2000-02-18 Thread Sandy Jackson
I have a problem can someone help..? This is my first time using this list OS: RH 5.2 out of the box Firewall script from: Hali Tower Darkover Firewall design tool, ipfwadm, setup for 2 nic cards Running on a P100, 16mb ram, 540mb Hd. External card using DHCP @home connection. Usin

Re: [techtalk] Getting a computer on a network.

2000-02-18 Thread moebius
Hey All, I do not all ping responses in my network, as a matter of security. I have futher disabled users from doing things like traceroute, host, etc. The point to this is that there should be no need to do this in a work environment unless you're on a network engineer side. If you're responsib

Re: [techtalk] ICU troubles

2000-02-18 Thread Telsa Gwynne
On Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 10:59:17AM -0800 or thereabouts, Lighthouse Keeper in the Desert Sun wrote: > Maybe I need gnome-core-devel. THat is the only one it wants... (This is > a big pain in my arse, you know? My modem freezes and stalls a lot after > a couple hundred K, and I'm using a 28K d

Re: [techtalk] Getting a computer on a network.

2000-02-18 Thread Jenn V.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hey All, > And > how many office people do you know that need to ping a host? I find that it saves immense amount of engineer time if the even remotely clued can do pings and traceroutes and know what they mean. It saves on the 'the internet is down' messages. I fa

Re: [techtalk] Getting a computer on a network.

2000-02-18 Thread Jamie Walker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hey All, > I do not all ping responses in my network, as a matter of security. I > have futher disabled users from doing things like traceroute, host, etc. > The point to this is that there should be no need to do this in a work > environment unless you're on a networ

Re: [techtalk] Getting a computer on a network.

2000-02-18 Thread Jamie Walker
"Jenn V." wrote: > And being able to do basic diagnostics makes them feel much > more in control - they don't panic when they know they can > /do/ something. And they get so enthusiastic when they know > they've been helpful. :) Heh. It's *great* supporting (Linux using) PhD. students. As often

Re: [techtalk] GMC won't open files (repost)

2000-02-18 Thread monashee
Stephan Zaniolo wrote: > > I'm sorry to re-post this, but it's very difficult working in Gnome > without "double click" support. I'm sure it's a stupid configuration > problem somewhere I don't use a desktop much but When in Gnome I have found frequent non-response to double clicks. T

Re: [techtalk] ICU troubles

2000-02-18 Thread Robert Kiesling
Telsa Gwynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm told that less bandwidth is not actually the major reason for > the package/package-devel split: it's much more for the people who > simply won't ever want or need to build new things and will only > be getting the occasional (binary) RPM when secu

RE: [techtalk] career/family question

2000-02-18 Thread Amanda Lenay
Hi Jenny, I know EXACTLY how you feel! I got married when I was 22 - I am a sys admin and my husband is a programmer. I fell into the same routine that you are in now: cleaning, cooking, shopping, laundry, etc... and felt strangely inadequate if I fell behind in any of my "duties". It is now four

Re: [techtalk] X Mail client recommendations (addendum)

2000-02-18 Thread Rik Hemsley
#if Britta Koch > Nope, I don't know C++ and I don't like or use Qt / KDE. > I'd write a mail client in python (or help the guy that's writing pygmy), > when I have the time (read: when I've become a millionaire on stock > options after getting a job in a startup / gone into pension / never) Ah,

Re: [techtalk] ICU troubles

2000-02-18 Thread Dan Nguyen
On Fri, Feb 18, 2000 at 07:17:31PM -0600, Robert Kiesling wrote: > > Telsa Gwynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I'm told that less bandwidth is not actually the major reason for > > the package/package-devel split: it's much more for the people who > > simply won't ever want or need to buil

Re: [techtalk] X Mail client recommendations

2000-02-18 Thread Dan McGarry
- Original Message - From: Sunnanvind <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 4:01 AM Subject: Re: [techtalk] X Mail client recommendations > At 23:47 2000-02-17 -0500, you wrote: > >Up till now, I've stayed with MS Outlook Express because of laziness

Re: [techtalk] X Mail client recommendations

2000-02-18 Thread Dan McGarry
- Original Message - From: Robert Kiesling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 5:44 AM Subject: Re: [techtalk] X Mail client recommendations > I wrote an article recently comparing the readily-available E-mail > clients for

Re: [techtalk] X Mail client recommendations

2000-02-18 Thread Dan McGarry
- Original Message - From: Britta Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 6:25 AM Subject: Re: [techtalk] X Mail client recommendations > Procmail is for mail filtering, and has a very easy syntax (I think - it's quite powerful, >too), if you

Re: [techtalk] X Mail client recommendations

2000-02-18 Thread Dan McGarry
- Original Message - From: Britta Koch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 7:32 AM Subject: Re: [techtalk] X Mail client recommendations > >When you load Empath, it syncs with all your folders in the background. > >Then when you click on a message,

Re: [techtalk] X Mail client recommendations

2000-02-18 Thread Dan McGarry
- Original Message - From: Telsa Gwynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2000 9:17 AM Subject: Re: [techtalk] X Mail client recommendations > I am very curious to know what X-based mailers have that console > mailers don't. Note that I can view URLs a

Re: [techtalk] X Mail client recommendations

2000-02-18 Thread Rik Hemsley
#if Dan McGarry > > This brings up a very important (to me) point: I like to keep *all* my > messages, and I'd love to be able to access them programmtically in the > future, in order to process and index them, then write a search interface > for them. > Well if you use a mail client that suppo

Re: [techtalk] career/family question

2000-02-18 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Fri, 18 Feb 2000 17:08:09 -0800, "Amanda Lenay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I fell into the same routine that you are in now: cleaning, cooking, >shopping, laundry, etc... and felt strangely inadequate if I fell >behind in any of my "duties". I ended up drawing the housework straw in my relat