Re: [Tagging] admin_level on nodes: wiki vs practice

Berlin Honestly looks like and error nobody has noticed yet. I mean admin_level=2 ? Berlin is a city state which might justify =4, but unless we somehow tag capitals like this I don't see the reasoning behind this tag in the first place. Andi __ openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88 wiki.o

Re: [Tagging] admin_level on nodes: wiki vs practice

tal cities tend to have an admin_level tag, others tend not to have it. Maybe it's something in use for backward compatibility, such as an with and old renderer that uses it instead of the capital tag to render a label at lower zoom levels. On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 12:04 AM, Andreas Goss

Re: [Tagging] admin_level on nodes: wiki vs practice

Please explain why admin_level on place nodes harms the database, or refrain from removing it. Thanks. I actually put it back in Berlin after I took a 2nd closer look at Germany. Which then actually revealed that all our state capitals are tagged with admin_level=6 when they should be 4 as far

Re: [Tagging] admin_level on nodes: wiki vs practice

Am 5/14/14 04:51 , schrieb Fernando Trebien: For a long time I believed that the only practical reason for placing "capital=yes" or "state_capital=yes" on a node was to help the renderer decide how to render the label; And what happens when go to admin_level=4? __ openstreetmap.org/user

Re: [Tagging] capital and state_capital: how are they being used in your country?

Am 5/13/14 17:40 , schrieb Fernando Trebien: So if you know how it's being done in yours, or if you can try figuring it out, please take a minute to describe it here briefly. http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/state_capital#map Pretty much answers that for state_capital=. Outside North & So

Re: [Tagging] capital and state_capital: how are they being used in your country?

Am 5/14/14 17:06 , schrieb Fernando Trebien: Interesting. So how is capital=* being used in Europe? Just running the overpass API with capital* over some countries: Spain: Using capital=8 extensivly (!!!) together with admin_level=8 not really using 4 or 6 though. France, Italy have some ca

Re: [Tagging] capital and state_capital: how are they being used in your country?

"... Czech Republic taginfo=capital" what do you mean? Ooops. Must have deleted a line there. Bascally they are not using capital= at all apart for some exceptions as you can also see on taginfo. We should probaby vote on this proposal now and make this the default practice. This makes admin

Re: [Tagging] capital and state_capital: how are they being used in your country?

Am 5/14/14 23:29 , schrieb Fernando Trebien: Any place=city/town/village with admin_level=4 is a state capital (at least in Brazil). What about your capital? According to Wikkipedia that's a capital of the Federal District, too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bras%C3%ADlia __ openstre

Re: [Tagging] capital and state_capital: how are they being used in your country?

Am 5/15/14 01:10 , schrieb Fernando Trebien: Brasília is the only exception which is a capital of two different administrative levels. And both the relations for the federal district [1] and the country [2] correctly express that idea. As long as you only look at admin_level=2 and =4 But even s

Re: [Tagging] capital and state_capital: how are they being used in your country?

Am 5/15/14 16:30 , schrieb fly: Regarding the original discussion I am in favour of using capital=[2-10]* if an additional tag is needed. The semicolon (;) is defined as value separator so we could have capital=4;6;8 or similar. This just sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. I also don't s

Re: [Tagging] capital and state_capital: how are they being used in your country?

I'd see it like this: capital=2 this place is the capital of a country capital=4 this place is the capital of a region (etc.) i.e. you can see the administrative importance, but there is no notion of which entity the place is the capital. capital=2;4 doesn't make much sense then. You a

Re: [Tagging] capital and state_capital: how are they being used in your country?

Am 5/16/14 11:32 , schrieb Georg Feddern: The information at the node itself will be only an information about importance in the end - not to say as renderer hint. And for this case a "value is less or equal" will be sufficient. For what apart from Rendering will this "importance" be usefull?

Re: [Tagging] capital and state_capital: how are they being used in your country?

Am 5/18/14 14:43 , schrieb John Packer: Honest question: are there capitals for something besides countries and states? If not, we could keep it simple: * capital=yes for country capitals * state_capital=yes for state capitals (already in use in some parts of America

Re: [Tagging] capital and state_capital: how are they being used in your country?

Am 5/19/14 02:27 , schrieb Fernando Trebien: Oberallgäu is currently mapped as a political (not an administrative) boundary, so Sonthofen would be neither a capital, nor an administrative center of any relation. Correctly, its node has no capital=* or admin_level=* tags. http://www.openstreetma

Re: [Tagging] noexit=yes (again) (and again)

Am 5/31/14 12:46 , schrieb Volker Schmidt: This is not so obvious, because it has to be directional (for the router). If you start your route in such a dead-end street you never get out, if it's not directional. The noexit=yes on the way to me seems much simpler and intuitive. (I used the tag ini

[Tagging] Bitcoin ATM (amenity=atm | currency:XBT=yes)

Just found a discussion about Coinmap and OpenStreetMap on /r/Bitcoin http://redd.it/27dam9 and saw that a lot of pages now also list Bitcoin ATMs, but so far there is nothing about it on the Wiki. The obvious tags would be: amenity=atm currency:XBT=yes Would there be anything wrong with just

[Tagging] WikiProject Emergency Cleanup

WikiProject Emergency Cleanup aims to structure tags and Wiki pages associated with Emergency, especially emergency=*. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Emergency_Cleanup I think the project name speaks for itself and it would be great if some of your would join the discussion on

Re: [Tagging] WikiProject Emergency Cleanup

Maybe just listing pages or category would be enough? That's exactly what the banner template does. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Emergency_Cleanup This banner is rather obnoxious. I think that's kinda the point: A number of Wiki labels are available for marking pages for att

Re: [Tagging] Bitcoin ATM (amenity=atm | currency:XBT=yes)

Yeah this sounds great in theory, but in reality it's not that simple. That's probably also why there so far is no tag for money changer machine(!) so far (at least I did not find anything) It's possible a device could both be an ATM as commonly understood, and a bitcoin currency exchange de

Re: [Tagging] Bitcoin ATM (amenity=atm | currency:XBT=yes)

Am 6/10/14 12:02 , schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: I understand that atm can be seen as broadly as incorporating all kind of automated telling even in the absence of actually emitting cash, but I would prefer to use a different tag for this and use atm for machines that actually do give you cash.

[Tagging] Emergency Access

So I got a bit of work done with the WikiProject Emergency Cleanup, but now I'm not really sure about emergency access. - Is there a difference between service=emergency_access, access=emergency and emergency=yes(on roads)? - What exactly is their meaning? Is it only for designated emergency

[Tagging] Key:contact - Misleading Infobox?

I justed ended up on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Phone and then on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:contact which I never really visited before and found the box at the top very missleading. ### #Dec. 2013 - While

[Tagging] Spelling: vending=news_papers

I was fixing some stuff with http://keepright.at/ when I found an error showing a wrong spelling vending=newspapers and the right tag was vending=news_papers. Which confused me, because I was pretty sure that's the spelling I learned in English class and google also confirmed that. Checking with

[Tagging] Fireplace, Fire Pit, BBQ Grill

Can anybody explain the difference, because there seems to be a lot of confusion. I often found "fireplace=yes. See also fire pit: leisure=firepit" in the Wiki. Why use different words to say the same thing? I guess it was gain due to someome from Germany writing those Wiki pages... after lo

Re: [Tagging] Fireplace, Fire Pit, BBQ Grill

a fire pit would be sunken into the ground Could that also sometimes (often?) be used for BBQ? What would you call this: http://www.grillplatzverzeichnis.de/images/Grillplatzbilder/Grillplatz-NaturSportPark.jpg __ openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88 wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:AndiG88

Re: [Tagging] Fireplace, Fire Pit, BBQ Grill

Rather than introducing other tags, would it be better to just better define and document what firepit should be used for? Probably the best idea. The way I see it is that the main information people would be interested in if they can make BBQ there (and maybe heating). Then it would also be g

Re: [Tagging] Native English speakers: locker or lockbox?

"left luggage" for the facility as a whole, probably "locker" for them individually it might be more "international" to call them "lockers", though Also avoids the possible confusion with lost luggage. __ openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88 wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:AndiG88‎ ___

[Tagging] Vending: Cards for Prepaid mobile phone

# in a retail store by purchasing a "top-up" or "refill" card at retail. These cards are stamped with a unique code (often under a scratch-off panel) which must be entered into the phone in order to add the credit onto the balance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prepaid_mobile_phone#Overvie

Re: [Tagging] Vending: Cards for Prepaid mobile phone

Am 6/29/14 04:07 , schrieb John Baker: Are you asking how we topup via ATM? (new tagging for ATM) Retail point Pre-pay point? etc A vending machine like this: http://blog.zivilist.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/IMG_20131024_101455.jpg But if we use top-up (it's spelled like that, right?) th

Re: [Tagging] Subsequent wikipedia links

but I was aware it conflicts with the language version The best solution would be to just use Wikidata. If editors supported that, then they could also always show the titel of the Wikidata tag to avoid errors. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wikidata I think part of the confusion come

Re: [Tagging] Subsequent wikipedia links

So in this two particular cases (Bayford's head office and building, and Buxton College with its two websites), what _actual_ tag values would you suggest? Cheers, Andy I think right now the tagging of the building is incomplete. If you want to tag Bayford & Co on the building, then the build

Re: [Tagging] Subsequent wikipedia links

We're presumably suggesting "wikidata=$something" but what is "$something"? Every Wikidata entry has an ID. You can find it in the URL and behind the title: OpenStreetMap: Q936 https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q936 So you would use wikidata=Q936 __ openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88 wiki.op

Re: [Tagging] Subsequent wikipedia links

Am 6/30/14 15:30 , schrieb Pieren: And one of the mentionned example is providing the building operator only through the "wikipedia:operator" where most of the data consumers are simply looking for the "operator" tag. I agree this should not happen, but can also be easily fixed by either a bot

Re: [Tagging] Subsequent wikipedia links

Am 7/1/14 20:48 , schrieb yvecai: but no content Maybe not directly to OSM, but definitely to the maps you can make out of it. http://osm.lyrk.de/wappen/ I think this is a much better solution than upldating all those image links in OSM. And if you want to have them in OpenStreetMap you co

Re: [Tagging] Subsequent wikipedia links

then search wikimedia commons for flags with the corresponding name. Which is going to fail, because there are names that exist more than once and always the risk of different spellings, especially in different languages. Also Wiki commons often does not care that much about creating pages/ca

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Port and terminals

This proposal needs EXAMPLES, EXAMPLES and more EXAMPLES!!! I would like to see some examples that show everything in one picture: habour, ports, port authority boundary +names etc. Should also be of one which highlighs the differences (so not one with just 1 port and where port=habour) I'm ha

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Port and terminals

We could use a single polygon per terminal tagged as in the proposal (similar to other landuse types) if we need to go in detail. If needed using also multiple values (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Semicolon) If you read the page you will see that it pretty much says: DON'T USE SEMI-COLONS

[Tagging] vending= How to handle food & drinks

Usually it is pretty obvious when you should make a new value and when not, but with food and drinks it is endless: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/vending#values If you use vending=milk instead of vending=drinks+drink:milk=yes where do you draw the line? Does vending=drinks assume soft d

Re: [Tagging] vending= How to handle food & drinks

and treat it simmilar to note=* tag. If anyone is going to use that data, it's not going to be anything more than showing all the text raw to the user. I completely disagree here. * If I have some kind of public transport app then most of the time I would be interested in some snacks or soft d

Re: [Tagging] vending= How to handle food & drinks

How the heck is any map going to cover ALL the practically infinite variations we might invent to describe shops and other items? It's crazy! The whole point of tagging in more detail is for maps to be able to be more selective about what kind of food/drink vending machines they show. As poin

[Tagging] British English Spelling shop=jewelry

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/BE-Spelling_shop%3Djewelry I kept it short ;) And I the think the Subject says it all. The use of jewellers could of course also be considered. __ openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88 wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:AndiG88‎

Re: [Tagging] British English Spelling shop=jewelry

I agree with John - no need to change the spelling. The differences between British English and American English are troublesome enough already (tyre:tire, centre:center, harbour:harbor, etc.:etc.) — why make another one? How is this making another one? The differences already exist, no matter

Re: [Tagging] British English Spelling shop=jewelry

I don't think we should change the spelling of an well-established tag (more than 13 000 uses according to taginfo) So you think we should keep vending=news_papers? http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/vending=news_papers __ openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88 wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Use

Re: [Tagging] British English Spelling shop=jewelry

vending=news_papers seems harder to say because it seems some osm gardeners changed objects that previously had vending=newspapers (for example [1]), so the actual numbers are skewed. I don't see why that matters. They are in the database. Now the question is should we change them or not. For

[Tagging] shop=scuba_diving and shop=dive

Hi, is there are reason to have both shop=dive and shop=scuba_diving? Seens to be the same: Dive even says "A dive shop or dive center is the base location where sports divers usually start scuba diving(!). It is normally a shop selling diving equipment equipped with a gas compressor to fill

Re: [Tagging] shop=scuba_diving and shop=dive

Sorry, just saw that sport=scuba_diving is pretty well established, so maybe we should use shop=scuba_diving. What do you think? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:sport%3Dscuba_diving __ openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88 wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:AndiG88‎ _

Re: [Tagging] British English Spelling shop=jewelry

I think for most of the mappers (including me) English is not their primary language and I'm not sure what kind of mix of British/American/out-of-the-blue/simply-wrong words I'm using. At least in Germany (or at my school) there was a huge emphasis on using British English and using habor inste

Re: [Tagging] British English Spelling shop=jewelry

Am 7/18/14 17:55 , schrieb Jesse B. Crawford: In the case of existing tags people will hopefully tend to use the spelling that's already predominant, but new tags are being added at such a rate that it's still an issue. The problem I have with this is that it also takes away the initiative to

Re: [Tagging] Synonymous values in the shop key

Am 7/16/14 23:32 , schrieb Bryan Housel: Oddly we have the mostly standard `craft=brewery`: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:craft%3Dbrewery … but winery tagging is fragmented. It was probably created before the craft key got much usage. I think there should be shop=wine and craft=winery

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Vending Machines: Drink & Food

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Vending-Dinks%26Food After thinking a bit about how to handle food and drink vending machines I thought a good compromise between only having vending=food/drinks + food:/drink: or vending=tomatoes/asparagus/milk/apples... would be to have so

Re: [Tagging] highway=speed_camera equivalent for non-speed enforcement types

I hesitate to just invent a new highway=*_camera tag, beause I don't actually like it to be under the highway key (something accepted for the speed_camera probably only of historical reasons) You could see how big the support in the community is replace highway=speed_camera key with a man_made=

Re: [Tagging] Kindergarten, Childcare and Preschool

(some people mentioned it doesn't with Germany's). For Germany I think this summs it up prett well: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_care#Germany Bascially we have: - Kinderkrippe (under 3 years) - Kindergarten (3 to 6 years) - KiTa/Kindertagesstätte (extension of either one or combination)

[Tagging] sport=horse_racing unnecessary sport=equestrian

Is there a reason to keep sport=horse_racing? Equestrian seems to defined as This broad description includes the use of horses for practical working purposes, transportation, recreational activities, artistic or cultural exercises, and competitive sport (!!!). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eq

Re: [Tagging] sport=horse_racing unnecessary sport=equestrian

"horse racing" is a very different animal (pun intended) to e.g 3 day eventing, country point-to-points, gymkhanas, etc. But do you plan to tag those with sport=horse_3_day_eventing, sport=horse_country_point-to-points and sport=hose_gymkhana? Because I have the impression they are all still

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:leisure=gym

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/leisure%3Dgym As far as I could see nobody touched this topic for quite some time so I created a new proposal as this seems to be how native speakers use the word today. __ openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88 wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/U

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:leisure=gym

I just got the impression that native speakers didn't like the term fitness centre. But if the term is alright than I happily create a proposal for leisure=fitness_centre instead, which is a tag I actually used myself and from a German perspective is perfect ;) leisure in my opinion is the on

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Tag:leisure=gym

I don't see a clear winner at all: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Fitness_centre Just as many people try to map it with some variation of *=fitness_centre/er or *=gym. sport=fitness on its own can't win, because sport=* is a non-physical Key. And as I wrote on the talk page I don't think

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse

If you look at http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/landuse=religious#map you see the highest density of use in Poland and Ireland, where apparently a lot of constellations are in need for such a tag. As far as I can see from Poland it is mainly the work of one mapper: https://www.google.com/#q

Re: [Tagging] Synonymous values in the shop key

We also already have a drink: key and I wanted a food: key anyway for vending machines. Might also be an option. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:drink https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Vending-Drinks%26Food A problem with "ice_cream" is there's no way to add it to

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse

http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/233316289/history http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/233031632/history They got replaced. But I admit it was less common than I thought. Just happened to click on one of those. There is not even one amenity=church_yard or churchyard (the latter being the correc

[Tagging] Internet Café = Café ?!?

Key:internet_access - "Internet cafes are primarily cafes" Can anybody explain how you came to that conclusion? For me this has nothing to do with a café: http://semo.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/2013-02-25-11.52.31.jpg http://madinghana.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/vodafone-internet-cafe.jpg

Re: [Tagging] Internet Café = Café ?!?

It seems you're getting confused. I just forgott the most important link. My mistake. Maybe that makes it a bit more clear. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:internet_access And there you can see that the advice so far is to tag Internet Cafes as amenity=cafe + internet_access=terminal

[Tagging] amenity=job(_)centre outdated?

There are like 20x amenity=jobcentre and 65x amenity=job_centre. Meanwhile office=employment_agency is used 1200x On http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Jobcentre_%28plus%29 you find: "Currently unclear if that tag encompass government run job centres." Checking in Germany t

Re: [Tagging] amenity=job(_)centre outdated?

It would be very very wrong to try to merge Job Centre with employment agency. 99% of Jobcenters in Germany are tagged as office=employment_agency, so currently the distinction you point out does not exist. Should we tag the government ones with amenity=jobcentre in addition? But as Martin p

Re: [Tagging] Bitcoin: Distinction of purchase through website and cash register/Point of sale

But if a shop doesn't accept a certain payment method at its physical location then I don't think it should be tagged that way even if they have a website where that payment method is valid. So what about delivery services? They guy delivering the pizza to your house might take different paymen

Re: [Tagging] Bitcoin: Distinction of purchase through website and cash register/Point of sale

My reasoning is that payment:bitcoin=yes is a general tag which means that payment is accepted at the store. In my opinion if there is no additional information then all the payment tags imply point of sale. Otherwise I would also have to tag a store that takes credit cards with payment:credit

Re: [Tagging] Bitcoin: Distinction of purchase through website and cash register/Point of sale

I think it should be website:payment:bitcoin=yes instead of payment:website:bitcoin=yes I think this makes sense for things like Wikidata, where you then have architect=* and architect:wikidata=* grouped together, but with payment it would be better to have all the payment= options grouped tog

Re: [Tagging] Bitcoin: Distinction of purchase through website and cash register/Point of sale

payment:bitcoin=yes is a de facto tag for a store that accepts Bitcoin AT THE POINT OF SALE, like all other payment=* tags. What you do is redefine its meaning to "it in some way accepts Bitcoin somewhere". payment:website:bitcoin=yes on its own is fine. payment:website:bitcoin=only would prob

Re: [Tagging] Commons: mixed purposes

That would be my preference, but there has been some resistance to Wikidata tags, from people who prefer human-readable tag values; so I tend to use one of each. I think that would be better addressed by various tools grabbing the name for the Wikidata ID and then displaying it. Otherwise we wi

Re: [Tagging] Reproposal of tourism=aquarium

+1, tourism=attraction is a poor scheme from the early days, maybe we should deprecate it all together, either without alternative or in favor of a flag like attraction=yes (or level0 - level 3 etc), or tourist_attraction=* I also just see it ending up in 2x tagging everything. leisure=waterpa

Re: [Tagging] Map Features template

And as far as I can see, the wiki translation is _mainly_ done for the sake of people that can't read english, so an entry in english doesn't really help.# People who speak english can translate it when they see something new was added to a table. The German Versions often even have a nice line

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse

I removed it on several Wiki pages, including the Map Features template. I still have the impression that it's something a very few mappers use. The usage numbers might look big, but if you take a closer look especially at Poland it's done by 1 mapper. And I don't get the impression that he i

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse

I see heavy use in Ireland, UK, and Japan, and there was a fellow from Japan I count a dozen uses in Japan. UK it's more common, but if you look closer it's again a handfull few mappers. And Polarbear a German mapper who also pushes this tag in the Wiki is for example remapping churchyards in

Re: [Tagging] Unification of google-plus links

I would like to unify the keys for google-plus-pages of objects in the Database. I think that's usually fine. I would like to change the Keys in "contact:google_plus" change them in "contact:facebook" I'm not in support of this though. contact: is not commonly used and I don't think is has

Re: [Tagging] Unification of google-plus links

I don't want to change the addr:-, website-, phone-, fax- or email-key!!! I never said it. As Tobias pointed out, we have to look at the bigger pucture. Why use contact: here, when it's not used by the majority anywhere else. The contact-namespace associate, that the defined facebook- or goo

Re: [Tagging] Tagging of movie rental kiosk

Creating all this vending machine stuff in the Wiki I wish that tag would have been something like machinie or automat. That would make it a lot easier. Then we wouldn't have the discussion over and over again also with all those parcel services. I guess machinie is to confusing and automat doe

[Tagging] Retag: craft=sweep => craft=chimney_sweep

Tying to clean up the Wiki a bit and found craft=sweep. I think it would be better to tag it craft=chimney_sweep as this makes it clearer and a lot easier to understand for non-native speakers. What do you think? I would then also like to retagg the few that are already in use if others agree

[Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

Can you please stop trying to come up with exceptions for the sport= tag? Just saw this on scuba diving: > Should be used to mark a place for scuba diving, preferably as an attribute of natural=beach, natural=stone natural=cliff or a fitting segment of a coastline or lake. > For dive bases o

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

would you mind rephrasing this? I don't understand what you want to tell us, and I guess others feel similar, given that nobody has replied in the past 2 days... Using sport=scuba_diving for a dive spot. That would be like using sport=soccer for a soccer field without using leisure=pitch. And i

Re: [Tagging] sport= non-physical tags and the exceptions people come up with...

The club page seems to suggest that club=sport + sport=cycling type tagging should be used for competitive sports. Which in my optinion is a bad idea, too. There is really no generel agreement as far as I know that club=sport is for competitive stuff only. I also don't think it's a good idea, be

Re: [Tagging] Distinction between amenity=restaurant and fast_food

Restaurants only serve meals, it is not possible to go there and only have a drink. That really depends on the restaurant. A at least in Bavaria there are a lot of traditional restaurants where you can just get a beer. Also very common when they are next to sports clubs. __ openstreet

[Tagging] craft=builder definition?

Just found this tag (craft=builder) on Taginfo and it has been used by a few times, but it does not seem very clear what it means: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Builder So is there any good definition for this tag or should I just create a Wiki page that people should use more spefific craft et

[Tagging] Wiki - contact: & Map Features

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ Honestly the people supporting this tag are annoying me more and more. They try to push that tag everywhere even when the tag without the prefix is used 10x more. The try to make the Wiki page sound like they are still present more often in the database. Put it on the MapFeatures

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - admin_title=*

So what do you do with Berlin? State? City? "Stadtstaat" (Citystate)? __ openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88 wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:AndiG88‎ ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/taggin

Re: [Tagging] Wiki - contact: & Map Features

actually the "idea" to prefix phone etc. with "contact:" was never more popular than the simple form. The "contact:"-form was proposed later and never set actually foot compared to the simple version. I have also tried in the past to convince mappers by sending them messages, to not use the prefix

Re: [Tagging] Mapping of kids areas

I don't see a need for a new key here. The properties can be easily modelled with sub-tagging of playground: leisure=playground playground:supervised=yes/no playground:outdoor=yes/no playground:indoor=yes/no I agree in general, but the main issue with tagging like this is that I bet most data

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - amenity=public_bookcase

Really prefer a tag like this over amenity=reuse. Reuse will just be used for everything in the end and nobody knows what it exactly stand for. __ openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88 wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:AndiG88‎ ___ Tagging mailing lis

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - leisure=fitness_centre

Just had the great idea to suggest tagging gyms/fintess centres for the German a weekly task (new year's resolutions incoming), when I realized we still don't have tagging schema for it. After I failed to address the issues with leisure=gym in my last proposal (ambiguity of the word "gym) and

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - leisure=fitness_centre

I wonder how we can tag fitness center attributes, such as pool, steam, sauna/ etc. They very all over the place. Being able do documenting features would allow "health clubs" sites to be included. I would see this as a 2nd step, for the start I would really just like to be able to tag this in

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - leisure=fitness_centre

From the German Forum... just wanted to mention this here, too. http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=29190 What's wrong with sport=fitness and leisure=sports_centre? Persoanlly I think it would result in all kind of facilities being tagged like this, even though it's not the primar

[Tagging] shop=provisions (Import Norway)

Found this tag when cleaning up shop=*. I guess you can buy food and/or equipment there? Looks like it's all from a import from Norway for tourist huts. * http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue/N50_import_%28Norway%29 * http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/6HN So what's the best way to de

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - leisure=fitness_centre

I like the idea of tagging the clubs's entire property as leisure=sports_centre + sport=rowing, and additionally sport=fitness (or sport=gymnastics) to the building or room dedicated to that. But I wouldn't tag it as a leisure=sports_centre on its own. It is only part of the surrounding sports_cen

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - leisure=fitness_centre

Because that's my issue when having leisure=sports_centre + sport=rowing as tag for your usual commercial gym. Oops. I mean sport=fitness (So a rowing club would be fine with leisure=sports_centre + sport=rowing,fitness) __ openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88 wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Us

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - leisure=fitness_centre

Water fountains, benches, parking, etc. aren't tagged any different just because they are located inside a sports centre. But are people searching for that the same way? If I look for stuff like that I'm probably somewhere outside and just look what's near me. Then I probaby realize pretty fas

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - leisure=fitness_centre

>fitness_centre:access=__membership, fitness_centre:access=club? private? >Or have something like fitness_centre=yes? (Not sure as we already >have sport=*) Why complicate things? I think a simple access=private (or maybe access=membership) should be enough. Thought about that, too.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - leisure=fitness_centre

What’s leisure time? It’s 5:30am here and I’m about to head to the gym, like I do most days. "The leisure tag is for places people go in their spare time." So I'd say that's exactly what you are doing. You are not at work or on holidays. You could just as much edit OpenStreetMap or pursue any

Re: [Tagging] Change of rendering: place of worship and terminal without building tag

landuse=religious Which still nobody knows what it is supposed to be used for... I'm supposed to tag this around every church? Well, have fun with those landuse multipolygons... __ openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88 wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:AndiG88‎ _

Re: [Tagging] Change of rendering: place of worship and terminal without building tag

Since when do we use ways for landuse=* ? Also I have not found a single one that is tagged like you say. They are all areas. Why multipolygons? Typical area with various church thingies (church, vicarage etc) is not requiring multypolygon - it is usually may be represented by a simple close

Re: [Tagging] Change of rendering: place of worship and terminal without building tag

this is just a polygon around a church yard, with the rest of the buildings and amenities inside. EXCEPT it does NOT say church yard but religious landuse. So this is how I would use this tag: http://i.imgur.com/KZvkB3i.png __ openstreetmap.org/user/AndiG88 wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki

[Tagging] Tagging: Tesla Superchargers

I wanted to tag these for some time and realized some people already did a lot of work, especially in Europe. Now I just wanted to discuss some tags and unify everything. I also started documenting everything here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcharging_station/Tesla_Motors

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