Re: [Tagging] Religious-neutral tags needed for religious objects/non-church places

2014-06-13 Thread Volker Schmidt
Hey guys - I had a question about tagging "wayside shrines." The wiki > posits that they are Christian, but I want to use them for another > religion. > The wiki does not posit that they are Christian, on the contrary: There is a subtag religion and the text says: "Frequently found along the way i

Re: [Tagging] Religious-neutral tags needed for religious objects/non-church places

2014-06-13 Thread John Packer
I don't think religious_symbol=* would be the best option for wayside cross. Here in Brazil, they often are found in curves that had automotive accidents in the past, and could indeed be said to be an historic feature, so I think this tag is good enough as it is. Like Volker said, the tag for ways

[Tagging] Suggestions for the correct tagging of Field borders

2014-06-13 Thread Simon Wüllhorst
Hello Guys, currently I’m tagging the country around my place (farmland, farmyards, meadow and so on). Farmlands are typically surrounded or seperated by small areas/borders of several vegetations (trees bushes, at least in Germany), called Field Borders (or Feldrain in German, more Informations:

Re: [Tagging] Suggestions for the correct tagging of Field borders

2014-06-13 Thread Simone Saviolo
2014-06-13 14:15 GMT+02:00 Simon Wüllhorst : > Hello Guys, > > currently I’m tagging the country around my place (farmland, farmyards, > meadow and so on). Farmlands are typically surrounded or seperated by small > areas/borders of several vegetations (trees bushes, at least in Germany), > called

Re: [Tagging] Religious-neutral tags needed for religious objects/non-church places

2014-06-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014-06-13 9:44 GMT+02:00 Volker Schmidt : > Man_made=cross or historic=wayside_cross similarly is geared for Christian >> religion, >> > > This is clearly not religion-neutral and I would like to see some neutral > tags for these objects > > While I agree that wayside_shrine + religion=* is fine

Re: [Tagging] Suggestions for the correct tagging of Field borders

2014-06-13 Thread Yves
Field border literally means the border of a field, so I fear the tag meaning is not as clear as it should. On 13 juin 2014 14:35:34 UTC+02:00, Simone Saviolo wrote: >2014-06-13 14:15 GMT+02:00 Simon Wüllhorst : > >> Hello Guys, >> >> currently I’m tagging the country around my place (farmland

Re: [Tagging] Religious-neutral tags needed for religious objects/non-church places

2014-06-13 Thread Satoshi IIDA
Hi, +1 to "wayside_shrine" + "religion=*". It could cover "Jizou" small buddhist shrines, and "Koushinto" small shrines. And I think those small shrine is covered "wayside_shrine" tag, too. So if possible, wiki descriptions are to be modified to fit more broader definition. Shinto gate is a bit c

[Tagging] Signal-controlled roundabouts

2014-06-13 Thread Fernando Trebien
Hello, I used to believe that, by definition, all roundabouts have free transit and right of way along the circle, and that anything that didn't display that property isn't a roundabout (just a circle). But reading the wiki once again, I'm a little in doubt. The wiki mentions that this is a rounda

Re: [Tagging] Signal-controlled roundabouts

2014-06-13 Thread Matthijs Melissen
On 13 June 2014 16:54, Fernando Trebien wrote: > So why is it a roundabout? Is it because of the circular shape? Or > could it be because it's impossible to infer that any of the entering > ways have right of way, since they are all controlled by traffic > lights? I don't know about the UK, but [

Re: [Tagging] Signal-controlled roundabouts

2014-06-13 Thread Dan S
Roundabouts like this sometimes (in Britain) have "part time traffic lights". So, some times of day it is a true roundabout, and some times of day it is a circle of road with traffic signals! I don't know the one you linked, to but it's possible that is what is going on here. Dan 2014-06-13 16:54

Re: [Tagging] Signal-controlled roundabouts

2014-06-13 Thread Volker Schmidt
Good question. I think this is because originally it was, as many others in the UK, a true roundabout with priority in the ring. The traffic signals were added later to avoid blocking up the (ex-)roundabouts. I have seen many roundabouts in the UK go through these phases: New "clean" roundabout; a

Re: [Tagging] Signal-controlled roundabouts

2014-06-13 Thread Clay Smalley
Coming from the US where any form of roundabout is rare, I would consider any circular intersection a roundabout. Some have signals, some don't have signals. I know that some people in the US distinguish between the two, where a 'roundabout' has no signals and a 'traffic circle' does have signals.

Re: [Tagging] Signal-controlled roundabouts

2014-06-13 Thread Janko Mihelić
I think we should call this a roundabout because it's round, and the general public calls it a roundabout whatever the rules and laws say. If some roundabouts are not "real" roundabouts, we can tag that with subtags, roundabout=unofficial or something. If we want to tag right of way, we tag that wi

Re: [Tagging] Signal-controlled roundabouts

2014-06-13 Thread Colin Smale
A signal-controlled roundabout reverts to being a normal roundabout if the traffic signals are not working (assuming it is also signed as a roundabout), so the presence/absence of the traffic signals cannot be a criterion for it being a roundabout or not. I expect most countries will have a tr

Re: [Tagging] Religious-neutral tags needed for religious objects/non-church places

2014-06-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 13/giu/2014 um 17:36 schrieb Satoshi IIDA : > > "man_made=shinto_gate" or "man_made=gate" + "religion=shinto" is sounds good > for me. > (Shinto gate(Torii) is not barrier, city gate or some barriers to block > people's traffic.) > Hence. man_made=gate is found only 20 samples from taginf

Re: [Tagging] Signal-controlled roundabouts

2014-06-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 13/giu/2014 um 18:32 schrieb Janko Mihelić : > > I think we should call this a roundabout because it's round, and the general > public calls it a roundabout whatever the rules and laws say. -1, only roundabouts should get the tag, and roundabouts are only situations where the traffic in

Re: [Tagging] Signal-controlled roundabouts

2014-06-13 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
> Am 13/giu/2014 um 18:28 schrieb Clay Smalley : > > Out of curiosity, what are others' criteria for a roundabout? priority for the inner traffic is the main "circular" is not a requirement, can have any shape (usually they are indeed circular) cheers, Martin ___

Re: [Tagging] Signal-controlled roundabouts

2014-06-13 Thread Fernando Trebien
Great, so my assumptions were mostly correct, except in the case of traffic lights inside the roundabout and on its entrances. I did find some roundabouts that are not perfectly circular in a small town here in Brazil. They resemble the figure of the number 8 (the mapping of the area is still quit

Re: [Tagging] Urban perimeter

2014-06-13 Thread Nelson A. de Oliveira
Could we define boundary=urban then? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Signal-controlled roundabouts

2014-06-13 Thread Janko Mihelić
2014-06-13 22:11 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer : > > -1, only roundabouts should get the tag, and roundabouts are only > situations where the traffic inside has the priority (traffic lights or > not). > Usually a roundabout has its sign (might differ according to the country ) > There's a town i