Hi, +1 to "wayside_shrine" + "religion=*". It could cover "Jizou" small buddhist shrines, and "Koushinto" small shrines. And I think those small shrine is covered "wayside_shrine" tag, too. So if possible, wiki descriptions are to be modified to fit more broader definition.
Shinto gate is a bit complicated even to Japanese mappers :) We could not find the proper tags to figure it. It means "this is a border between man's ward and gods's ward". So it is similar meaning of "border stone", between Shinto shrine(like church)'s territory & people's. "man_made=shinto_gate" or "man_made=gate" + "religion=shinto" is sounds good for me. (Shinto gate(Torii) is not barrier, city gate or some barriers to block people's traffic.) Hence. man_made=gate is found only 20 samples from taginfo. > cross "***=wayside_cross" + "religion?=celtic" is possible? to represent celtic cross. IMHO, all the cross is not geared for christian. (it is reasonable of default meaning is christian :) ) Off topic. Similar specific tag is "brewery". http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:brewery It is beer specific description on wiki. But I think it is more broader word to represent brew. (like "brewery" + "brew?=beer, wine, sake or so") Cheers, 2014-06-13 23:29 GMT+09:00 Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com>: > > 2014-06-13 9:44 GMT+02:00 Volker Schmidt <vosc...@gmail.com>: > > Man_made=cross or historic=wayside_cross similarly is geared for Christian >>> religion, >>> >> >> This is clearly not religion-neutral and I would like to see some >> neutral tags for these objects >> >> > > While I agree that wayside_shrine + religion=* is fine, I don't see why we > should make crosses "religion-neutral". They could be seen as implying > religion=christian, but there really is no problem with having those tags. > > > > >> but there are millions upon millions of Shinto Gates and small figures of >>> Buddha (ones you wouldn't think of as "statues", like the big copper buddha >>> at Kamakura) - but the existing tags are not religious-neutral and paired >>> with the religion tag or a subtag to handle these; ie >>> manmade=ReligiousSymbol, religiousSymbol= Wayside Cross, Shinto Gate, >>> Buddha Statue, Spaghetti Meatball, etc.... >>> >> > > why not directly tag man_made=shinto_gate? Or sculpture=buddha (together > with religion-tags if you like)? Seems more consistent with our current > tagging approach and is simpler. Not sure if man_made is the best key for > this, I've always seen "man_made" as a category for technical stuff, but on > the other hand it seems there have been inserted also some features which > are of different nature, like "cross", "campanile" (any reason this is not > tagged with building=bell_tower / campanile ?). > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:man_made and even > landcover/landuse values (clearcut and cutline). > > Cheers, > Martin > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > -- Satoshi IIDA mail: nyamp...@gmail.com twitter: @nyampire
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