Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Water tap

2015-01-17 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
;t find anything. Does anyone have a clue?) have you checked your spam folder? sometimes gmail tends to label as spam a number of mailing list posts; periodically going through the spam folder and marking them as not-spam seems to reduce the problem, at least for a while. -

Re: [Tagging] correct access tagging for tourist attraction

2015-01-05 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
? Even the access driveway to a single family, detached, home is likely to be driven on by more than one person (all of the driving members of the family) who lives there. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstr

Re: [Tagging] access in the wiki

2014-12-03 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
way=pedestrian+pedestrian=ztl, and some comment on the default access > page. AFAIK there is no uniform definition in the italian laws, they are defined in the town laws, and every town is free to mix-and-match their own rules. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' _

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Water tap

2014-11-18 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
On 2014-11-18 at 11:46:51 +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2014-11-18 11:25 GMT+01:00 Elena ``of Valhalla'' : > > * can be drinked after filtering > "could be drunk after filtering": I guess almost everything can be > filtered/decontaminated with adequa

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Water tap

2014-11-18 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
able point is * can be drinked after filtering * can be drinked after boling / sterilizing * too contaminated for easy treatment -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - relation type=person

2014-10-15 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
eath registers are restricted to the person and their immediate relatives, at least for the living and IIRC the recently dead. In theory access is public for old data, altough I don't remember the exact cryterion. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' _

Re: [Tagging] problem with bicycle=designated

2014-08-19 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
ay. In Italy this is true in theory, but in practice cycleways that aren't combined cycleway + footway (with the corresponding sign) are extremely rare. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Synonymous values in the shop key

2014-08-01 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
't recall, haven't seen many of them, I guess amenity=cafe would be it, > or sometimes they're a bar as well? I don't think they sell alcoiholic drinks, so yes, amenity=cafe sounds more appropriate, but then aren't gelaterie close to this concept (exc

Re: [Tagging] Synonymous values in the shop key

2014-07-31 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
ountry specific specialty) ;-) how do you tag an italian pasticceria? (of the kind that also serves coffee and read-to-eat pastry, not the "laboratori di pasticceria" where you buy things to bring home / elsewhere. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Signal-controlled roundabouts

2014-06-18 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
p. I'd still consider it a roundabout, though. +1, any case where the traffic light is usually off (or blinking yellow) and normal roundabout rules apply except for sporadic events (pedestrian crossings, too much traffic on some direction, etc.) walks and quacks like

Re: [Tagging] highway=track access

2014-05-21 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
y=track, which is contradictory to > its proposal." wasn't the original post about highway=track and not tracktype? -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] highway=track access

2014-05-20 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
g, the consequence of all this is that I would expect tracks to be considered for routing (if access keys allows it) but only at a very low priority. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Topographic place names

2013-12-12 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
ones when it comes > to define their edges. big human settlements tend to be associated with one or more clearly define legal entities and we tend to map those, not the actual settlement. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] Usefulness of bicycle=dismount on ways

2013-10-16 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
cicles you have to dismount and "turn yourself into a pedestrian". There are special crossings that allow both bicicles and pedestrians where you can cross without dismounting, but they are quite rare (in my town I can remember only one). -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Proposed feature - age groups in schools

2012-11-26 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
UV-driving parents trying to park exactly in front of the school; * hordes of high-school students on scooters or cars they still don't know how to drive. Of course you would also need typical entry and exit times, but I can see value for these informations on a router. :) Elena

Re: [Tagging] Carriageway divider

2012-08-20 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
urn restrictions. > In Germany that's not the case. > You're not allowed to cross a solid line. the same applies to Italy. Usually in the case of a side road there will be a vertical sign for convenience, but not for ajoining premises. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' ___

Re: [Tagging] Carriageway divider

2012-08-20 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
nasty speed bump, it is a different matter, but that's definitely not the usual road separation around here. .. [1] my car isn't, and most of the "auto mediche" (a regular car with EMTs on board, which follows the same roules for e.g. ambulances) I

Re: [Tagging] Carriageway divider

2012-08-20 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
wider road, even in the absence of a precise width tag. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] drinkable vs. drinking_water

2012-07-12 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
there are different levels of saying this water is drinkable. I > don't know if it's good to mix it. potable=official/yes/no? -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Another reset on roundabouts

2012-05-18 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
uld become very relevant: a router for large veicles would know that it can use "large" roundabouts and mini-roundabouts, but not roundabouts tagged as small. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap

Re: [Tagging] Block names (vs street names) in Brasilia

2012-04-24 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
can be used on > railway=platform: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/94063273 > or man_made=pier: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/71124853 but in both cases the meaning is "contrary to the default for the main tag, this feature has not been described by tracing its cen

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Overtaking Restrictions

2010-10-06 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
On 2010-10-07 at 08:16:46 +0200, Colin Smale wrote: > On 07/10/2010 01:03, Elena ``of Valhalla'' wrote: >> On 2010-10-06 at 21:20:08 +0200, Colin Smale wrote: >> It's the same in Italy, but you can overtake if you are an ambulance >> or another emergency vehic

Re: [Tagging] Tagging Overtaking Restrictions

2010-10-06 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
Around here the law is the same, but such dashed segments are more usual than a continue solid line, both for minor roads and entrances to premises. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueelena.org ___ Tagging mailing li

Re: [Tagging] Tagging average speed [Was: Re: Residential roads]

2010-10-04 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
ered rush hour or not are very dependent on local conditions, and not easily calculated from known osm data. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueelena.org ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

[Tagging] Tagging average speed [Was: Re: Residential roads]

2010-10-03 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
to tag something like avg_speed:(rush_hour|off_hours|night_hours|...)=n traffic:(rush_hour|off_hours|night_hours|...)=[a time/date range] -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueelena.org ___ Tagging mailing list Tag

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Roundabout Priority

2010-09-28 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
that there was a name for them, but it has always been obvious to me that they were non-roundabouts, with no need for additional tagging, except perhaps for a note to prevent other mappers from adding a spurious junction=roundabout. -- Elena ``of Valhalla''

Re: [Tagging] Re-organizing food "things"? (was: Re: amenity=ice_cream: approved?)

2010-09-27 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 05:19:58PM +0200, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2010/9/27 Elena of Valhalla : > > this would give a space for regional variants such as > > food+drink=biergarten|gelateria|whatever_else, preventing the creation > > of additional amenities whose usage m

Re: [Tagging] Re-organizing food "things"?

2010-09-27 Thread Elena of Valhalla
scale, with food+drinks places being an area where there are lots of regional differences -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: elena.valha...@gmail.com ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Re-organizing food "things"? (was: Re: amenity=ice_cream: approved?)

2010-09-27 Thread Elena of Valhalla
the addition of cousine tags, this will probably give enough information for a passable management of such places by users (renderers, routers, etc.) that don't know about every possible kind of eatery in the world. of course, we still have the problem with the tag name, since "food

Re: [Tagging] Using route=road to group the segments of a street(was: Re: Reasons for associatedStreet?)

2010-09-03 Thread Elena of Valhalla
*human* mapper with local knowdlege to decide whether some ways are part of the same road or not. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: elena.valha...@gmail.com ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [Tagging] Using route=road to group the segments of a street (was: Re: Reasons for associatedStreet?)

2010-09-03 Thread Elena of Valhalla
s and turn restrictions. anyway, this is an example of a problem that can (and will) be solved with better support for relations in the editors, not a problem intrinsic in the data model. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueelena.or

Re: [Tagging] Using route=road to group the segments of a street (was: Re: Reasons for associatedStreet?)

2010-09-03 Thread Elena of Valhalla
ort for relations, and editing a relation won't be an "advanced user" feature as it is right now. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: elena.valha...@gmail.com ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Using route=road to group the segments of a street (was: Re: Reasons for associatedStreet?)

2010-09-01 Thread Elena of Valhalla
the road I'm not so sure about using the route relation, however: it does look like some sort of hack, and a new relation type would sound more logical. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: elena.valha...@gmail.com ___

Re: [Tagging] ele-key for lakes / water bodies and glaciers

2010-08-24 Thread Elena of Valhalla
On 8/24/10, Liz wrote: > On Tue, 24 Aug 2010, Elena of Valhalla wrote: >> on the way that marks the boundary of lakes etc. I would expect the >> ele key to tag the average height of the water surface, since that is >> what is constant on the whole lake > > I live in a l

Re: [Tagging] craft= Proposal

2010-08-24 Thread Elena of Valhalla
not > true!!!1eleven11! ;) you're kidding, but what about a (real) sushi chef who produces something temporary, but is also required to give extreme care to the estetics of the dish? -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.true

Re: [Tagging] ele-key for lakes / water bodies and glaciers

2010-08-24 Thread Elena of Valhalla
iate, e.g. to mark things like deepest points etc. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: elena.valha...@gmail.com ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Builders' Merchants -> Timber Merchant

2010-07-29 Thread Elena of Valhalla
mapper could get the information, and it was stable over time. > > So I would be against that micro, or rather nano, mapping :-) > > ael > > ___________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > -- E

Re: [Tagging] highway=motorway and motorroad (implies)

2010-06-10 Thread Elena of Valhalla
" and this includes motorway_links (and strictly speaking also service areas, that are not even tagged as motorway_something) the speed limit is not something that defines whether something is a motorway or not, just an hint to understand whether the situation is that of a long motorway_link or no

Re: [Tagging] highway=motorway and motorroad (implies)

2010-06-10 Thread Elena of Valhalla
s a temporary situation, however, so I believe it is better to tag it with some work-in-progress / under-construction tag, rather than a single way. Anyway, there are motorway tunnels like the Gotthard one that have just one shaft and one lane per direction, but they are few exceptions and can be eas

Re: [Tagging] religion

2010-05-31 Thread Elena of Valhalla
On 5/31/10, John Smith wrote: > On 31 May 2010 18:56, Elena of Valhalla wrote: >> I don't think those are religious rituals (as opposed to the ancient >> olympics) > > There is ceremonies that occur at different times of the year, eg > summer solstice: >

Re: [Tagging] religion

2010-05-31 Thread Elena of Valhalla
one Hedge in the UK? historical=something + place_of_worship, since it is used for both > You also have the site in Greece where they perform ritualistic > ceremonies to light the torch for the Olympic torch relays. I don't think those are religious rituals (as opposed to the ancient olym

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - traffic jam warning

2010-05-28 Thread Elena of Valhalla
t behind a blind turn, so they wouldn't cover all of the traffic prone areas, however -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: elena.valha...@gmail.com ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org htt

Re: [Tagging] bicycle=no

2009-12-07 Thread Elena of Valhalla
x27;t that bicycle=permissive? -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: elena.valha...@gmail.com ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Non-parking car lots

2009-12-03 Thread Elena of Valhalla
ways -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: elena.valha...@gmail.com ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Implied oneway tag for highway=*_link, wiki edits

2009-11-27 Thread Elena of Valhalla
wo-way sections, so either default would require at least some explicit tagging. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' homepage: http://www.trueelena.org email: elena.valha...@gmail.com ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging