On 9/27/10, David Paleino <da...@debian.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 04:14:19 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
[...]
>> Almost every one of those approves is by someone living in Italy,
>> which suggests discussion on the Italian mailing list or other
>> discussion among a small group in an echo chamber.

There was indeed some discussion on the italian mailing list, where
they felt the need to distinguish between italian style "gelateria"
and other kinds of ice cream sellers

> Once it was
>> belatedly announced here, most new voters opposed it. It's very
>> possible that the outcome would have been different had it been
>> announced here promptly (or, to be fair, it may have been the same,
>> with the Italian bloc voting the same way).

it would have probably be the same, possibly in a different order;
btw, there are also a few opposes from italy, and this leads to the
main subject of this thread

>[...]
> On a related note: me and some other people on #osm-it were thinking about
> re-organizing the "food" tagging (take "food" as an example in the
> following).
> Something like: amenity=food + food=cafe|fast_food|restaurant|... This way,
> we would avoid the amenity "overcrowding", and have a more structured
> tagging
> scheme.

another proposal was to stay out of the amenity namespace and create a
new one to include such places as are included in the food and drink
category of presets in josm; i.e. something like
food+drink=bar|cafe|restaurant|fast_food|...

this would give a space for regional variants such as
food+drink=biergarten|gelateria|whatever_else, preventing the creation
of additional amenities whose usage makes little sense out of a
limited region

with the addition of cousine tags, this will probably give enough
information for a passable management of such places by users
(renderers, routers, etc.) that don't know about every possible kind
of eatery in the world.

of course, we still have the problem with the tag name, since
"food+drink" doesn't look quite right

-- 
Elena ``of Valhalla''

homepage: http://www.trueelena.org
email: elena.valha...@gmail.com

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