Re: [Sursound] problem with jconvolver on osx

os x. just so that anyone who might consider tackling the issue knows there is some demand. best, jörn -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarve

Re: [Sursound] problem with jconvolver on osx

rated into a jack graph, but i've had issues when trying that with more than one application in the past. best, jörn -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingd

Re: [Sursound] Image-source model with consideration of air absorption

(powf (tr, -1/3.0f) - 1))); return 8.686f * f * f * (1.84e-11f * sqrt (tr) / p + powf (tr, -2.5f) * ( 0.01275f * (expf (-2239.1f / t) / (frO + f * f / frO)) + 0.10680f * (expf (-3352.0f / t) / (frN + f * f / frN; } -- Jörn Nettings

Re: [Sursound] online multichannel release

done. just make sure you document what you did very explicitly. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister (VDT) http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sursound mailing list Su

Re: [Sursound] [ANN] International Conference on Spatial Audio, Nov 10-13 2011, in Detmold, Germany

tually... best, jörn -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister (VDT) http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://ma

[Sursound] ambi on linux

osx-based systems with ardour2 and ambdec for two clients so far. best, jörn -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister (VDT) http://stackingdwarves.net __

Re: [Sursound] ST450 - any user comments?

st recordings i made with a pre-series model which i'm told is pretty much identical to the series: http://stackingdwarves.net/download/TetraMic_vs_ST450/ hth, jörn -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio)

Re: [Sursound] matching speaker gain and delay compensation

s to do it. one i could think of is when you have signal sets which are sensitive to crosstalk, say an a/b stereo set. it will always sound nicer when routed discretely to a pair of speakers than as two second-order ambisonic phantom sources panned 60° apart best, jörn -- Jörn Nett

Re: [Sursound] matching speaker gain and delay compensation

rn ps: where can i listen to this? -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister (VDT) http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sursound mailing list Sursoun

Re: [Sursound] Periphonic problems

nd an out-of-phase "ring". -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@mus

Re: [Sursound] Naive HOA Questions

our mileage may vary. best, jörn -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https

Re: [Sursound] question about simple equation

ep the old WXYZ format as it is, in order not to break all existing recordings. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net __

Re: [Sursound] 32 (ish) channel soundcard for wavedield synthesis ?

such as the directout andiamo (very affordable and excellent quality), or a madi to adat bridge such as the one by rme, or the recently released directout exbox adat (converts madi i/o to 8x adat io). -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für

Re: [Sursound] Sursound Digest, Vol 44, Issue 20

experience with these ? well, with the behringers, you get what you pay for, and you didn't pay much. usable, and almost certainly not the weakest link in the chain unless you've got big budget room acoustic treatment and really sophisticated speakers. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr.

Re: [Sursound] Can anyone help with my dissertation please?

g feasible, which might explain the resurrected interest. it was simply not possible with 70s analog equipment or 80s/90s know-how and computing power. and the entrance barrier to HOA is being lowered steadily. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für

Re: [Sursound] Question about directional bands

ven with proper soundfield reconstruction, the human ability to judge height is not too good, unless the listener tilts her/his head. visuals or content usually win over actual direction, i.e. a sound is where you think you see its source, and birds are up, footsteps are down. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier

[Sursound] POA/HOA vs 5.1

films using ambisonics when this happens. 22.2 is a strong argument to go for at least 4th order in production. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net

Re: [Sursound] Can anyone help with my dissertation please?

m influence. (i guess the reason is our brain can sort out one set of ERs as "natural" and work around the coloration, but not two sets.) -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studi

Re: [Sursound] Transient time differences

ny other slight variation thereof :-D incidentally, higher-order panned sources are also way more stable with respect to timbre. and now: "duck, and cover :)" -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Stu

Re: [Sursound] Transient time differences

http://hauptmikrofon.de/ima2-folder/ImageAssistant2.html i find it an invaluable tool in trying to understand what different miking techniques are trying to accomplish. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonme

Re: [Sursound] Can anyone help with my dissertation please? (Robert Greene)

ar to many composers than ambisonics and multichannel mixing that is a phenomenon i haven't been able to figure out either :) why do people still fall for the BEAST? jörn (with apologies to the birmingham crew ;) -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 793748

Re: [Sursound] Can anyone help with my dissertation please? (Robert Greene)

create proper art, stereo will never catch on. you don't feed a bab... oh, wait. got a bit carried away there >;-> regards, jörn -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://sta

[Sursound] Linux Audio Conference 2012 at CCRMA - live stream coverage starting tomorrow

Hi *! On behalf of the conference organizers, we would like to invite you to join the Linux Audio Conference 2012, kindly hosted by the Center for Computer Research in Music and Acoustics (CCRMA) at Stanford University. The conference will start tomorrow, Thursday April 12, at 10:00 PST (th

Re: [Sursound] OT: Spatial music

s. this is what ambisonics is all about: scalability. you get to keep your meridians and your four quad speakers, and everyone can just live happily ever after. [1] the only thing that's probably even cheaper is opinions. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7

Re: [Sursound] audio point / audio plenum

On 04/18/2012 03:35 PM, Peter Lennox wrote: No - HOA could be ideal for achieving spaciousness! - it can achieve that decorrelation so much better... ah, peter, how cold-hearted of you to slap the baby with a steak. back to lurk mode... :) -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen

Re: [Sursound] audio point / audio plenum

round - increased directional resolution corresponds with with decreased 'accidental phantom imaging' is alsp true absolutely. and i'm happy to welcome you as a honorary whippersnapper among the ranks of the HOA snobs conspiracy :) -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen,

[Sursound] Linux Audio Conference 2012 at CCRMA - proceedings and videos now available

On 04/11/2012 08:01 PM, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: Hi *! On behalf of the conference organizers, we would like to invite you to join the Linux Audio Conference 2012, kindly hosted by the Center for Computer Research in Music and Acoustics (CCRMA) at Stanford University. The conference will

Re: [Sursound] "Digital Amplifiers" (Multichannel Amps with ADAT input)

erlin was having clicking problems occasionally (which sums up to "quite often" on such a large rig) that were blamed on the adat signal distribution, so you might want to take an extra good look at the performance of the adat receivers. best, jörn -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr.

Re: [Sursound] "Digital Amplifiers" (Multichannel Amps with ADAT input)

other directout gear i have used so far has performed very well. and their pricing is very competitive when compared to rme. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http:

Re: [Sursound] Why do you invert the phase of one channel of multi capsule microphones ?

ing them with one of the capsules inverted. best, jörn -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sursound mailing list S

Re: [Sursound] microphone epiphany ?

tional component. note that you will have to attenuate the resulting omni signal according to the number of capsules you used. best, jörn -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studi

Re: [Sursound] Chasing flies with ambisoinics? (was Re: microphone epiphany ?)

psychoacoustics, and then it may work well for a few people, but certainly not for the majority of listeners. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT h

Re: [Sursound] Catching the same fly twice (and a curious question)

ot;. despite these pathological mental states, my functioning in the real world has not been affected (or so i'd like to believe). hence, i'm confidently resuming the circling of wagons now. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für V

Re: [Sursound] Blumlein, HOA, Pinnae xfer function, etc.

hough. best, jörn -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.

Re: [Sursound] Bittorrent responses--thanks!

enough for any malicious seeder to seek softer targets elsewhere. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sursound mailin

Re: [Sursound] Setting up my first ambisonic system

cables isn't too hard. if you must minimize the amount of cabling, go for passive speakers with a centralized amp rack - that way, there is only one wire per speaker. how many channels are we talking about? -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meiste

Re: [Sursound] Setting up my first ambisonic system

s than, say, 5-10 people, i would recommend a third-order horizontal-only ring of eight if you are looking for proper localisation. a cube in my experience is problematic for more than one listener, unless all you want is envelopment. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 1

Re: [Sursound] The Sound of Vision (Mirage-sonics?)

is cognitive? 10%, 50%, 90%? in discussions like these, the only way to win is not to play :-D or to read all the long long papers of people doing the actual research... -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio

Re: [Sursound] The horse test: a (possible) experiment to throw light on the cognitive role in spatial perception

solid with semantic cues or good visuals or a strong will to believe. these effects are very likely all rooted in the higher cognitive functions, but that won't help much in actually improving our systems. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 793

Re: [Sursound] The Sound of Vision (Mirage-sonics?)

years) or on a crisp concert grand at 442. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound

Re: [Sursound] Can anyone explain this ?

rity. something similar can be done with a first order ambi panner and UHJ playback. sometimes (depending on content), the result will be surprising, but tricks like these tend to fail on arbitrary content. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für

Re: [Sursound] preferred (small) linux distro for audio?

! -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman

[Sursound] higher order ambisonics

er_ambisonic_systems_for%20electro-acoustic_concerts-rev3.pdf the size limits of large-scale HOA systems: http://stackingdwarves.net/public_stuff/linux_audio/ambisonic_symposium_2011/AmbiSym2011-Nettingsmeier-Dohrmann_Large-scale_HOA_Systems.pdf best regards, jörn -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11,

Re: [Sursound] higher order ambisonics over 8 to 10 loudspeakers

s in the circle at different heights - would that allow a hint of the height information (I would tell the plugin where they are), or just distort the render? it will just distort the rendering, and compromise the horizontal precision. best, jörn -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 4

Re: [Sursound] higher order ambisonics over 8 to 10 loudspeakers

upper part of your first-order b-format, run them through an allpass and maybe a bit of delay and mix the resulting signals to the upper speakers, to taste. not the canonical method, i do confess, but it will sound ok :) -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487

Re: [Sursound] higher order ambisonics over 8 to 10 loudspeakers

c :-D -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/ma

Re: [Sursound] Domestic Concert Hall

everb doesn't scale. if you want to use it on massive systems, keep low-order content separate and pipe it through a dedicated decoder using fewer speakers. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister

Re: [Sursound] higher order ambisonics over 8 to 10 loudspeakers

periphonic decoder which matches the position of your upper speakers well, and leave everything except the upper speakers unconnected. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingd

Re: [Sursound] Interesting news in the world of HOA...

On 09/23/2012 02:25 PM, Joseph Anderson wrote: http://www.jobs.ac.uk/job/AFC490/phd-studentship-development-of-microphone-array-with-tangential-pressure-gradient-sensors/ go, go, go! -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für

Re: [Sursound] Beyer Headzone anyone?

oundscapes. i have used the smyth realizer, a very similar product, and it does the job quite well. whichever one you go for, be sure to test it - this isn't one of those products you should order per mail (in case the price tag isn't enough indication already :) -- Jörn Nettingsm

[Sursound] Plane waves from natural sources...

ts of decorrelated sources of noise. on the other hand, i know that roads and highways are treated as line sources as well for the purpose of emission control, i.e. with 3dB attenuation per doubling of distance. maybe someone can explain why this should be so? -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingst

Re: [Sursound] 3D Array

ght when embarking on with-height adventures: http://lac.linuxaudio.org/2012/speakers?uid=29 -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net

Re: [Sursound] 3D Array

's for low level use? Preferably even sharing code, where possible? off the top of my hat, there is a toolkit available from t-labs at tu berlin, and iem graz has higher-order code for pd. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltung

Re: [Sursound] Question about plane waves, and the precedence effect

tetrahedral mic, the simplified equations are W = LFU + RFD + LBD + RBU X = LFU + RFD - LBD - RBU Y = LFU - RFD + LBD - RBU Z = LFU - RFD - LBD + RBU -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT

Re: [Sursound] Trans-Dimensional Portal

970s EIKI 16mm film projector, and today, wherever i go, all adverts are about transmission belts. that's sublime :-D -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) To

Re: [Sursound] Somting for the Weekend - Commerisal 3D sound

layouts, some of which include a roof speaker. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound

Re: [Sursound] Somting for the Weekend - Commerisal 3D sound

speakers into people's homes to do Ambisonics with height with a re-jigging of their positions ;-) if only i had some time on my hands, i'd love to throw an ambisonic deocoder at an auro-3d layout... it's quite sub-optimal for ambi, but there are quite a few of those syst

Re: [Sursound] Auro 3D

e. 10. even if you are, you will very likely be late :) 10. therefore, amp gains are all the way up, right from the start. because they would be anyway, by the end of the concert. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechni

Re: [Sursound] Auro 3D

On 10/14/2012 01:09 AM, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: On 10/13/2012 06:43 PM, David Pickett wrote: At 05:51 13/10/2012, Dave Hunt wrote: I have long been dubious of the common practice of turning all PA amplifiers up to full and doing all level adjustments prior to that, often at the mixer. This

Re: [Sursound] Somting for the Weekend - Commerisal 3D sound

ss your neighbours with eight speakers in a ring, pray impress them with at least third order. even if your ambi-trained brain can sort it out, your neighbour's very likely cannot. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (

Re: [Sursound] Somting for the Weekend - Commerisal 3D sound

used for auro, i don't think a cube would hurt at all, at least for non-frontal stuff. but some care should be taken not to mess up the LCR part. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://

Re: [Sursound] Somting for the Weekend - Commerisal 3D sound

On 10/16/2012 12:31 AM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 10:33:09PM +0200, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: regardless of whether you consider a two-source phantom spectrum good or bad, i guess we can agree a three-source one is wy worse? No. Why should that be ? Theile always

Re: [Sursound] Vestibular response, HRTF database, and now with added height...

already there would help. Now, where do we apply for funding?? i seem to recall markus noisternig mentioning that IRCAM had done a few vomit comet experiments last year, but i never asked what their objective was... you might want to ask him before stamping your ticket to ISS. -- Jörn

Re: [Sursound] Sweet spot precise measurement

ut these perceptional advantages do not change the basic fact that the soundfield reconstruction is incorrect outside the sweet spot. best, jörn -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwa

Re: [Sursound] Sweet spot precise measurement

tly diffuse field without much localisation. Do you have any suggestions? How differently would you do? start with a speaker radius that is 1.5 times the speaker radius, a bit more if the room is large enough. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veran

Re: [Sursound] Sweet spot precise measurement

On 11/09/2012 02:53 PM, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: Do you have any suggestions? How differently would you do? start with a speaker radius that is 1.5 times the speaker radius, a bit more if the room is large enough. DOH! Martin just prodded me off-list, of course this should have read &q

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

lots of outs maybe ? <http://www.directout.eu/en/products/andiamo.html> But you'd pay for the AD converters which you don't need. the rme DA 32 doesn't have ad converters. but it's twice the price of the andiamo :) -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 E

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

dat sync loss was (and still is afaik) the bane of the wfs system at tu berlin. disclaimer: i'm personally acquainted with the directout developers, and they have helped me out with gear loans several times. in any case, their stuff is excellent and i can totally recommend it. best

[Sursound] remarks on "with-height" wfs

e demonstrated this very impressively at ICSA 2011. so by all means concentrate your speakers on the horizontal plane, and then since you have so many, use maybe 16 or 32 for an additional HOA 3D setup (or just feed them discrete ambience). -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

nd envelopment. height localisation was never an objective, though. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sursound maili

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

better converters with much better engineering, and you save lots of rackspace (8 HU for the andiamos vs. 36 HU for behringers and madi-to-adat bridges) -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister (VDT

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

On 12/09/2012 10:06 AM, Sebastian Gabler wrote: Am 07.12.2012 20:16, schrieb Jörn Nettingsmeier: as mentioned by someone else, rme hdsps can be ganged. _but_ i've seen weird timing issues with an old hdsp madi pci and a hdsp madi pcie - they would be in perfect sync, but with random offse

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

On 12/09/2012 01:00 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: On Sun, Dec 09, 2012 at 12:12:15PM +0100, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: i could imagine how a situation like you describe could come about when wiring the cards this way, but it feels a bit weird. iiuc, connecting each card to an always-active wc

Re: [Sursound] 256 channel out system - recommendations ?

dat connectors, and no MADI-to-ADAT bridge necessary. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sursound mailing list Surso

[Sursound] Height localisation in a speaker triangle

s only about amplitude panning, we might exploit it for the design of Ambi rigs in the rE realm. I recall people have argued in favor of twisted rings before - maybe this is a case in point? Best, Jörn -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister fü

Re: [Sursound] Proximity illusions - WFS vs HOA

uthors - such feedback is rare, and i'm sure they'll appreciate it. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sur

Re: [Sursound] IR files

/downloads/jconvolver-reverbs.tar.bz2 i've been (over-)using it for years on pretty much anything that needed just a little sense of space without actually sounding too wet. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Stu

Re: [Sursound] Broadcasting b-format - again

wiring them for audio. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https

Re: [Sursound] Broadcasting b-format - again

On 01/26/2013 08:44 PM, Ross Bencina wrote: On 27/01/2013 6:29 AM, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: getting clear line-of-sight to six or more speakers is probably just as hard as wiring them for audio. Does it need to be direct line of site? Maybe infrared ambient light would be OK? as one who

Re: [Sursound] practical 3D ambdec presets

usual decoding method will start to float if you take away the bottom ring. for me, this "pull-up" is irritating enough that i try to avoid 3d setups which are truncated on the equator. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Verans

Re: [Sursound] 8+ channel players ?

member receiving an answer to a problem i had within 25 minutes, on a sunday! it's a bit pricey if you need all the bells and whistles, though. you will need at least the "pro audio" license iirc, the free one is limited to stereo i think. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11

Re: [Sursound] Ambisonic hydrophone?

neering feat. the guy who makes them is really kind of cool, i've talked to him at tonmeistertagung 2010 in leipzig... -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmei

Re: [Sursound] Sound Field Microphone

sion (IIRC) was he'd buy one ... if he had the money. The review should still be on the Web. The link in this lists archive. http://www.stackingdwarves.net/download/TetraMic_vs_ST450/ -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechni

Re: [Sursound] Bi-Amping the B-format

rolled off at 12db/oct around 80hz, no justification, it just sounded nice, with enough "oomph" :) best, jörn -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarve

Re: [Sursound] A Thanks... And Another Post

on in case that's relevant for cars, in higher order. sure, getting a complete ambient recording in HOA is hard and involves something like the eigenmike, but "artificial" stimuli can just be panned, exploiting the improved focus of HOA. best, jörn -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingst

Re: [Sursound] Submersed in Subs (and ideas)

subs. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.edu https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/lis

Re: [Sursound] A Thanks... And Another Post

at all. and pity those engineers who monitored for years at 85dB SPL for 0dB. for most practical reference levels before the advent of EBU R128, that kind of power constitutes grievous bodily harm. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für

[Sursound] the power of doppler shift illusion

tried. so this evil little bear of little brain but inexhaustible mischievousness folded it down to mono, out of pure spite. the sound was still all over the place. chowning 10, bear 0. and here's to fake doppler shifts. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177

[Sursound] time variance...

on the input signal, or on some external factor, like modulation. for practical purposes, i guess fons' definition is more useful, because then the term "LTI" system is strictly limited to something that can be fully described with an impulse response. -- Jörn Nettingsmeie

Re: [Sursound] Naive question on MS and Ambisonics

the direction of the mic as seem from the listening position) and a first-order panner with W disconnected takes the S signal, which i point to mic position minus 90°. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio

Re: [Sursound] Naive question on MS and Ambisonics

dron anyways. So I just watch out for it while mixing and frequently cross-check at lower orders to arrive at a useful middle ground. Best, Jörn -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) To

Re: [Sursound] Making a standalone 8ch player

tputs are unbalanced rca. if necessary, two 4way DI boxes can be added at reasonable extra cost, but then those will be 10 times the size of the actual player unit... -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonme

Re: [Sursound] Renting a Soundfield Microphone in Germany

e an st450 for rent. they are located in hamburg. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sursound mailing list Surs

Re: [Sursound] Eigenmike (Fons Adriaensen)

m for a correct amplitude response for the full 4th order set, it will sound duller and duller the more orders you truncate. it is possible to generate a spectrally correct output for each subset of orders, but that has to be computed from the a-format, with a priori knowledge of the p

Re: [Sursound] Eigenmike (Fons Adriaensen)

On 06/17/2013 11:22 PM, Sampo Syreeni wrote: On 2013-06-17, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote that's the main problem with the eigenmike: the higher the order, the narrower the bandwidth and the higher the lower boundary. which means that an eigenmike signal set will not usually be downwards-compa

Re: [Sursound] Eigenmike (Fons Adriaensen)

minor issues you get from sub-optimal psychoacoustic decoding of normal mixed-order sets. usual disclaimer: severely math-challenged poster here, who'd love to be disproved and become a happy eigenmike user ever after. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen

Re: [Sursound] Giving Precedence to Ambisonics

27;s quite useful. I've even used it for live sound amplification in theatres with a good center cluster. best, Jörn -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stac

Re: [Sursound] Giving Precedence to Ambisonics

will lose, and their main advantage (better perceived spaciousness in stereo-only playback, and better LF response) is not even considered. miking is a trade-off. testing individual aspects won't tell us much about actual musical use. best, jörn -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzing

Re: [Sursound] Giving Precedence to Ambisonics

and boy did i long for my asbestos underwear... -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechnik (Bühne/Studio) Tonmeister VDT http://stackingdwarves.net ___ Sursound mailing list Sursound@music.vt.e

Re: [Sursound] Giving Precedence to Ambisonics

ike you, i do prefer co-incident miking, but honestly, i don't see how the wide-spread preference for spread omnis can be construed as the end of scientific thinking. best, jörn -- Jörn Nettingsmeier Lortzingstr. 11, 45128 Essen, Tel. +49 177 7937487 Meister für Veranstaltungstechni

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