Re: [SAtalk] qmail catch-22?

2002-12-03 Thread Matt Sergeant
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said the following on 03/12/02 05:09: Need to get spamassassin working system-wide with: qmail (with the qmail-queue patch) tcpserver maildrop sqwebmail (w/ vpopmail, but no virtual users) All the docs I could find (including the archives to this list) say to use qmail-scanner

[SAtalk] spamd/c configuration

2002-12-03 Thread Tom Allison
For security reasons I am running spamd under a seperate username 'spamd -d -a -u foo' This creates a system wide AWL under the user 'foo' home directory (/var/spool/spamassassin). Problem is that the command 'spamassassin --add-addr-to-blacklist' doesn't know anything about the user 'foo' and

[SAtalk] how do i...

2002-12-03 Thread Tom Allison
OK, I've done all the RTFM and still don't have an answer to this one: spamassassin has command options for adding address to the AWL (--add-addr-to-blacklist) and by default it will add that address to the current users list (~/.spamassassin?). spamc/spamd run as root or as whatever you specif

Re: [SAtalk] qmail catch-22?

2002-12-03 Thread Mike Burger
Hi, James...long time no see (since my time on the inet-access list). There's no catch-22, and I'll tell you why...and you said it yourself. You need to have SA installed and running before you can install qmail-scanner...but there's nothing that says you have to have qmail-scanner installed a

Re: [SAtalk] how do i...

2002-12-03 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 06:10:36AM -0500, Tom Allison wrote: > But there's nothing to point spamassassin to the AWL under > /var/spool/spamassassin. Back when I still ran site-wide AWL, I think I just made a symlink from ~spamd/.spamassassin -> /var/spool/spamassassin (or soemthing like that). W

[SAtalk] running out of memory

2002-12-03 Thread Cheryl L. Southard
HI All, Can anyone please offer me any suggestions on how I can stop spamd from hogging all the memory on my mail server and spiriling into memory-thrashing hell? We are running spamd 2.43 with perl-5.8.0 on our Solaris 2.8 mail server. Every so often, another process on our mail server takes up

Re: [SAtalk] running out of memory

2002-12-03 Thread Justin Mason
Cheryl L. Southard said: > We tried adding the "-m 3" flag to spamd, but it caused it to be unstable > and crashed frequently. you could try the CVS version -- the -m bug is fixed there. Also, spamc/spamd can run across a network, another option is to farm out spamd work to another machine. Thi

[SAtalk] ideas for collaborative spam-filtering techniques?

2002-12-03 Thread Justin Mason
BTW, just met with some researchers in Trinity College here in Dublin for lunch, an AI guy and a distributed-systems peer-to-peer guy, they're *both* looking at starting anti-spam projects. So, wondering -- does anyone have good ideas for new systems in those areas, that can help in spamfiltering?

[SAtalk] Bayesian hybrid

2002-12-03 Thread Christopher Eykamp
Would it make sense to do a Bayesian analysis using not only on individual words, but also the SpamAssassin regex tests in order to detect phrases and patterns that would be missed using a naive word-by-word analysis? And if that worked, would it then not make sense to discard the standard SA

Re: [SAtalk] Bayesian hybrid

2002-12-03 Thread Matt Sergeant
Christopher Eykamp said the following on 03/12/02 17:29: Would it make sense to do a Bayesian analysis using not only on individual words, but also the SpamAssassin regex tests in order to detect phrases and patterns that would be missed using a naive word-by-word analysis? And if that worked,

Re: [SAtalk] Bayesian hybrid

2002-12-03 Thread Vivek Khera
> "CE" == Christopher Eykamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: CE> My understanding is that SA scores are currently assigned to each test CE> using some statistical analysis of a corpus of spam and non-spam. Using CE> the tests with the Bayes engine might allow the assigned scores to be My bet

Re: [SAtalk] running out of memory

2002-12-03 Thread Simon Lyall
On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, Cheryl L. Southard wrote: > We are running spamd 2.43 with perl-5.8.0 on our Solaris 2.8 mail > server. Every so often, another process on our mail server takes up a lot > of memory. For example, we have a 72MB rsync job that runs every night. > When this happens, my server st

[SAtalk] User configuration files

2002-12-03 Thread Kevin Hurst
This is probably something simple, but I'm having a difficult time with it. We have Spamassassin 2.43 running on RH 7.3 with Squirrelmail 2.40. Everything works fine, however we cannot customize on a individual level. When a new user logs into Spamassassin, a .spamassassin file is created,

[SAtalk] Spamassassin + DNSBL

2002-12-03 Thread Matty
Howdy, Has anyone gotten DNSBL to work with Spam Assassin? I did some googling, and came up with: http://www.blackholes.us/docs/usage.html I added a blackholes.cf to ~/.spamassassin, but am unsure how to enable it (looking at the man page and default spamassassin output doesn't show anything).

[SAtalk] Where does SA look for pyzor?

2002-12-03 Thread Jonathan Nichols
..that about says it. :) I just installed Pyzor today, (it's in /usr/local/bin/pyzor - there's a symlink from /usr/bin/pyzor -> /usr/local/bin/pyzor tho) and SA doesn't see it. Where does it look for it? Or, how can I tell SA exactly where Pyzor is? Thanks! -Jonathan -

Re: [SAtalk] Where does SA look for pyzor?

2002-12-03 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 01:45:09PM -0800, Jonathan Nichols wrote: > ..that about says it. :) It looks in $PATH. ;) > Where does it look for it? Or, how can I tell SA exactly where Pyzor is? If you have Razor 2.20 installed, you have to tell SA where Pyzor/DCC is (because Razor kills $PATH) via p

Re: [SAtalk] qmail catch-22?

2002-12-03 Thread up
Thanks for the help, Mike, Matt and Dave! I misunderstood the qmail-scanner docs to mean that SA just needed to be installed properly. not that spamd needed to be running. On that note, is it best to just run spamd standalone in the background or inetd (not interested in using daemontools unless

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin + DNSBL

2002-12-03 Thread Matt Kettler
Actually, if you're running SpamAssassin 2.43 (which you should be) or CVS version, relay checking via spamhaus is already in the default ruleset (RCVD_IN_SBL). I'd recommend removing the redundant rule that you added. I'm guessing that no DNSBL's are running because you don't have full DNS su

[SAtalk] not updating auto-whitelist and bayes* ?

2002-12-03 Thread spamass
I've just recently set up spam assassin and I've noticed a problem. I set an macro in mutt so when i see a spam it runs it pipes it though spamassassin -r, spamassassin --add-to-blacklist, and sa-learn-spam -s. I also have a macro in mutt so when i see mis-labeled spam i run it though spamassass

[SAtalk] blacklists of spamfriendly urls. (and suggestion for new test, if it doesn't exist)

2002-12-03 Thread Jon Gabrielson
Are there any blacklists for spamfriendly urls? Or is there a way to make spamassassin use the existing blacklists to check out the ips of urls in the body of the message. Most of my spam seems to have bogus email addresses, but at the same time have valid urls to either buy their product or to

Re: [SAtalk] Where does SA look for pyzor?

2002-12-03 Thread Matt Kettler
If you're running a reasonably new version (ie: 2.43) man Mail::SpamAsassin::Conf: pyzor_path STRING This option tells SpamAssassin specifically where to find the pyzor client instead of relying on SpamAssassin to find it in the current PATH. add it to you

Re: [SAtalk] qmail catch-22?

2002-12-03 Thread Kelsey Cummings
On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 05:23:35PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Thanks for the help, Mike, Matt and Dave! I misunderstood the > qmail-scanner docs to mean that SA just needed to be installed properly. > not that spamd needed to be running. > > On that note, is it best to just run spamd st

Re: [SAtalk] User configuration files

2002-12-03 Thread Matt Kettler
Hmm, are you actually invoking spamassassin as different users, or always as the same user, ie always root via a milter in your MTA? Note that the user_prefs file is only read for the user that invokes SA, not for the user addresses in the emails. If you're invoking SA as a single user all the

Re: [SAtalk] qmail catch-22?

2002-12-03 Thread Mike Burger
IMO, it's best to let any daemon run standalone...too much start time necessary to start it via inetd. That notwithstanding, I'm not even sure that spamd would take to starting via inetd/xinetd. But I've seen little overhead from running spamd standalone. The spamc processing can take some ti

[SAtalk] Help with postfix / amavisd-new / spamassassin gateway

2002-12-03 Thread john public
Perhaps this is a bit outside the scope of this group, but I'd appreciate any assistance in digging through my mail logs. I'm trying to follow Scott Henderson's Spamfilter relay server "Howto" http://www.geocities.com/scottlhenderson/spamfilter.html as applied to RedHat 8.0 along with amavisd-

Re: [SAtalk] Where does SA look for pyzor?

2002-12-03 Thread Jonathan Nichols
> > add it to your /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf or user_prefs > Cool. That was it. Now to tackle this error: Dec 3 15:35:36 mail spamd[26051]: debug: Pyzor: couldn't grok response "sh: /usr/bin/pyzor: bad interpreter: No such file or directory " Can't figure that one out. Does it even if I u

Re: [SAtalk] Where does SA look for pyzor?

2002-12-03 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 03:46:45PM -0800, Jonathan Nichols wrote: > Dec 3 15:35:36 mail spamd[26051]: debug: Pyzor: couldn't grok response > "sh: /usr/bin/pyzor: bad interpreter: No such file or directory " > > Can't figure that one out. Does it even if I use /usr/local/bin/pyzor (the > /usr/bin/

Re: [SAtalk] Where does SA look for pyzor?

2002-12-03 Thread Jonathan Nichols
> > > > Can't figure that one out. Does it even if I use /usr/local/bin/pyzor (the > > /usr/bin/pyzor one is a symlink) > > "bad interpreter" makes me think "pyzor is pointing at a python path > you don't have". Take a look at the top of pyzor and see what path > it's using. > Interesting. It was

Re: [SAtalk] Where does SA look for pyzor?

2002-12-03 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 05:10:32PM -0800, Jonathan Nichols wrote: > Dec 3 17:07:35 mail spamd[21504]: debug: Pyzor: got response: downloading > servers from http://pyzor.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/inform-servers-0-3-x > Dec 3 17:07:35 mail spamd[21504]: debug: leaving helper-app run mode > Dec 3 17

Re: [SAtalk] Where does SA look for pyzor?

2002-12-03 Thread Jonathan Nichols
> > > > It's "Odd error day" again. =/ Haven't found any of these on Google or > > lists. :( > > It looks like this is your first time running pyzor... I would say that > if you can run pyzor from the commandline and it doesn't complain and > returns something that looks like a valid answer (I don

[SAtalk] Problem with SpamAssassin-2.50cvs in mail header

2002-12-03 Thread Glynn S. Condez
Hi All, I've been using SpamAssassin2-31 before but due to dying issues, I recently upgrade my SpamAssassin to 2.50cvs and it works fine. Recently, I encountered problems with my mails and some of my users can't check their emails using pop3 and I started to investigate the problem. This is what