Re: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages

2003-09-02 Thread AltGrendel
On Sun, 2003-08-31 at 15:51, Ryan Bingham wrote: > Did anyone ever figure out a fix for this on Exchange 2000? It will be a > while before I can migrate to 2003. > > To recap: the problem involves retrieving intact headers from messages > moved to Public Folders on Exchange 2000. > > Thanks, >

RE: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages

2003-08-31 Thread Bingham, Ryan
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages Guys, FYI I have upgrade to Exchange 2003 and there is no longer a problem with full headers being retrieved by IMAP, even if some messages are "posts" in the public folders and others are "no

Re: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages

2003-08-31 Thread Ryan Bingham
:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:39 PM To: Bingham, Ryan; Tom Meunier; Martin Bene Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages Guys, FYI I have upgrade to Exchange 2003 and there is no longer a problem with full headers being

Re: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages

2003-08-14 Thread Ryan Bingham
Tom Meunier wrote: I don't know how you're doing this, but my Ham and Spam public folders work exactly as specified. Are you certain your users aren't forwarding them there, but rather dragging & dropping from Outlook? Are your users connecting to the server via IMAP or MAPI? (We don't use IMAP

Re: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages

2003-08-14 Thread Ryan Bingham
Covington, Chris wrote: Ryan, I've found that if mail is sent directly to a mail-enabled Public Folder's email address, IE from amavisd-new or Postfix, its headers will make it through with IMAP. However, if an email is moved to or from a Public Folder with Outlook (regardless of whether or not

RE: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages

2003-08-14 Thread Covington, Chris
-Original Message- From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >I don't know how you're doing this, but my Ham and Spam public folders work exactly as >specified. Are you certain your users aren't forwarding them there, but rather dragging >& dropping from Outlook? Are your users conne

Re: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages

2003-08-14 Thread Ryan Bingham
Tony Hoyle wrote: Try in OutlookSpy... if you view the Imessage and look for PR_INTERNET_CONTENT that will contain the exact text of the original message. If PR_INTERNET_CONTENT is missing the original message is lost. If that attribute is there it should be relatively trivial to write an app wh

AW: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages

2003-08-14 Thread Martin Bene
Hi Chris, >What you're describing also happens to me. My question is, >what happens when you open the message that you've moved >to the public folder with an IMAP client? Does it maintain >the full email headers in the IMAP client? For the 3 of us, >Outlook still shows the full headers but

RE: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages

2003-08-14 Thread Tony Hoyle
-Original Message- > From: Covington, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 13 August 2003 17:39 > To: Ryan Bingham; Tom Meunier; Martin Bene > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages > > > Guys, > > FYI I

RE: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages

2003-08-14 Thread Covington, Chris
Guys, FYI I have upgrade to Exchange 2003 and there is no longer a problem with full headers being retrieved by IMAP, even if some messages are "posts" in the public folders and others are "notes." And also, PR_INTERNET_CONTENT still disappears on messages moved to the public folders, but it does

RE: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages

2003-08-14 Thread Covington, Chris
ave the problem... Chris -Original Message- From: Ryan Bingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages Tony Hoyle wrote: >Try in OutlookSpy... if you view the Imessage and look fo

AW: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages

2003-08-14 Thread Martin Bene
Hi Chris, >Tony et al. I guess I'll let the cat out of the bag. Tom Meunier >discovered the M$-known issue. The problem is >http://support.microsoft.com/?id=817809 which is basically that public >folders' emails are treated as PR_MESSAGE_CLASS IPM.Note instead of >IPM.Post. >Those of you who d

RE: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages

2003-08-14 Thread Covington, Chris
-Original Message- >From: Martin Bene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Headers are still there; I haven't used a "normal mail client, instead >I use teh perl script posted on the list earlier this year: >http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=spamassassin-talk&m=104806917615490&w=2 > >The downloade

Re: AW: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages

2003-08-14 Thread AltGrendel
On Tue, 2003-08-12 at 03:41, Martin Bene wrote: > Hi Chris, > > >make it through with IMAP. However, if an email is moved to or from a > >Public Folder with Outlook (regardless of whether or not the public > >folder is mail-enabled), then its headers get truncated. > > I can not confirm that.

RE: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages

2003-08-14 Thread Tony Hoyle
> -Original Message- > From: Covington, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 12 August 2003 16:15 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages > > > Tony et al. I guess I'll let the cat out of the bag. To

Re: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages

2003-08-14 Thread Ryan Bingham
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 12:39 PM Subject: RE: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages Guys, FYI I have upgrade to Exchange 2003 and there is no longer a problem with full headers being retrieved by IMAP, even if some messages are "posts&qu

RE: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages

2003-08-14 Thread Tom Meunier
> -Original Message- > From: Ryan Bingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [ ] > Once they drag them into the Public Folder, as you point out, the > headers get truncated. I've even resorted to trying to > reconstruct the > original message by copying what little header information > Outl

RE: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages

2003-08-14 Thread Tom Meunier
> -Original Message- > From: Covington, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 2:33 PM > To: Tom Meunier; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages > > > -Original Message- > From:

AW: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages

2003-08-14 Thread Martin Bene
Hi Chris, >make it through with IMAP. However, if an email is moved to or from a >Public Folder with Outlook (regardless of whether or not the public >folder is mail-enabled), then its headers get truncated. I can not confirm that. I'm using outlook 2000-SR1 (9.0.0.5414) + exchange server 2000

RE: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages

2003-08-14 Thread Tony Hoyle
> -Original Message- > From: Ryan Bingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 11 August 2003 20:20 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages > > Even more frustrating, Windows IMAP and POP clients have the > same

RE: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages

2003-08-14 Thread Covington, Chris
-Original Message- >From: Tony Hoyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Unfortunately that's not it... Your message for example shows >up as an IPM.Note, and when I copy it to the public spam folder >it remains an IPM.Note, except exchange deletes the >PR_INTERNET_CONTENT property while copying.

RE: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages

2003-08-14 Thread Covington, Chris
-Original Message- From: Martin Bene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >If I tell you that it "just worked" for me, this probably isn't very helpful. >Still: > * I created the public folder in Outlook and selected "email" as folder type. > * mail dropped in the new folder apears as a

RE: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages

2003-08-14 Thread Tony Hoyle
> -Original Message- > From: AltGrendel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 05 August 2003 17:41 > To: SA-Talk > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages > > > > But I've noticed that Exchange 2000 Public Folders in IMAP > mode

RE: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages

2003-08-14 Thread Covington, Chris
-Original Message- From: Ryan Bingham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Tony (or anyone else in the know), > >Could you post more details about how you were able to handle the >headers problem in Exchange 2000? I have had the same problems as Chris >extracting meaningful header information fro

Re: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages

2003-08-14 Thread Ryan Bingham
Tony Hoyle wrote: If you can write some software to fetch it, the original text of the email is stored in exchange 2000 (not 5.5, which always reconstructs the text from its MAPI information). I had a play with it and you can retrieve the original email in a lot of cases, but in (seemingly random

Re: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages

2003-08-05 Thread AltGrendel
On Mon, 2003-08-04 at 18:44, Covington, Chris wrote: > Hi all, > > RH 9, amavisd-new 06162003, Postfix 2.0.13, SA 2.55. > > I've been using the wonderful script from: > > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=spamassassin-talk&m=105622875610715&w=2 > > I instruct users to move undetected SPAM to Publ

RE: [SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages

2003-08-04 Thread Marek Dohojda
This doesn't seem to be the problem in exchange 5.5 I know what you mean by not being able to ditch exchange. :::Sigh:: ONE DAY!! -Original Message- From: Covington, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 3:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, RH 9, amavisd-new

[SAtalk] exchange and IMAP Public Folder messages

2003-08-04 Thread Covington, Chris
Hi all, RH 9, amavisd-new 06162003, Postfix 2.0.13, SA 2.55. I've been using the wonderful script from: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=spamassassin-talk&m=105622875610715&w=2 I instruct users to move undetected SPAM to Public Folders. But I've noticed that Exchange 2000 Public Folders in IMAP