[SAtalk] Scores & Black list question..

2004-01-28 Thread Debbie D
Sorry if this has been asked answered before, but I have 5000 messages here to wade thru.. Spamassassin 2.54 Cobalt Raq4 w/sendmail, mailscanner, Clam antivirus If there is an existing rule with a set score.. and I want to make that score higher.. if I add: score RULE_SUCH_AND_SUCH 15 to my 1

[SAtalk] Scores not being assigned?

2004-01-28 Thread James Herschel
I emailed this out Friday and haven't seen any replies. Not sure if it was missed, but I'd appreciate any help anyone can give. This problem seems to be afflicting one specific users for some issue. The user in question is [EMAIL PROTECTED] - maybe the hyphen is screwing things up? I have no ide

[SAtalk] scores question

2003-10-04 Thread Ricardo Kleemann
Hi, I received a spam that got scored only 4.4 yet it had BAYES_80 as well as FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD. I'm not very familiar with how much these tags _should_ be scored, but shouldn't a FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD have a reasonably high score? And BAYES_80, typically how much does that contribute? I know th

Re: [SAtalk] Scores for OSIRU Tests

2003-08-28 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 09:10:09AM +0200, Rainer Sokoll wrote: > On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 12:44:20PM -0700, Justin Mason wrote: > > Good morning, > > > Larry Gilson writes: > > >There was another suggestion that the tests could be commented out in > > >20_head_tests.cf. Which is the best and/or r

Re: [SAtalk] Scores for OSIRU Tests

2003-08-28 Thread Nigel Metheringham
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 11:50, Carlo Wood wrote: > Are you 100% sure that is also the case for RBL checks? > It seems 'weird' that this test will indeed be completely > turned off if, and only if, all six related scores are set > to 0 (and not when you forget one). That seems like an > almost compli

RE: [SAtalk] Scores for OSIRU Tests

2003-08-28 Thread Larry Gilson
Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf indicates that: "Setting a rule's score to 0 will disable that rule from running.". --Larry > -Original Message- > From: Carlo Wood > Are you 100% sure that is also the case for RBL checks? > It seems 'weird' that this test will indeed be completely > turned

Re: [SAtalk] Scores for OSIRU Tests

2003-08-28 Thread Carlo Wood
On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 09:56:59AM +0100, Nigel Metheringham wrote: > Remember that scoring a test as zero inhibits the test being run at all, Are you 100% sure that is also the case for RBL checks? It seems 'weird' that this test will indeed be completely turned off if, and only if, all six relat

Re: [SAtalk] Scores for OSIRU Tests

2003-08-28 Thread Simon Byrnand
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 12:44:20PM -0700, Justin Mason wrote: > > Good morning, > >> Larry Gilson writes: >> >There was another suggestion that the tests could be commented out in >> >20_head_tests.cf. Which is the best and/or recommended method? >> >> either works fine. This way is easier. > >

Re: [SAtalk] Scores for OSIRU Tests

2003-08-28 Thread Nigel Metheringham
On Thu, 2003-08-28 at 08:10, Rainer Sokoll wrote: > On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 12:44:20PM -0700, Justin Mason wrote: > > Larry Gilson writes: > > >There was another suggestion that the tests could be commented out in > > >20_head_tests.cf. Which is the best and/or recommended method? > > > > either

Re: [SAtalk] Scores for OSIRU Tests

2003-08-28 Thread Rainer Sokoll
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 12:44:20PM -0700, Justin Mason wrote: Good morning, > Larry Gilson writes: > >There was another suggestion that the tests could be commented out in > >20_head_tests.cf. Which is the best and/or recommended method? > > either works fine. This way is easier. In this case

RE: [SAtalk] Scores for OSIRU Tests

2003-08-27 Thread Tom Meunier
;[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Scores for OSIRU Tests > > Hey Justin, > > There was another suggestion that the tests could be > commented out in 20_head_tests.cf. Which is the best and/or > recommended method? > > --Larry

Re: [SAtalk] Scores for OSIRU Tests

2003-08-27 Thread Justin Mason
Larry Gilson writes: >There was another suggestion that the tests could be commented out in >20_head_tests.cf. Which is the best and/or recommended method? either works fine. This way is easier. >> -Original Message- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> Alexander Skwar writes: >> >Good

RE: [SAtalk] Scores for OSIRU Tests

2003-08-27 Thread Larry Gilson
Hey Justin, There was another suggestion that the tests could be commented out in 20_head_tests.cf. Which is the best and/or recommended method? --Larry > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Alexander Skwar writes: > >Good morning, > > > >now that osirusoft is officially

Re: [SAtalk] Scores for OSIRU Tests

2003-08-27 Thread Justin Mason
Alexander Skwar writes: >Good morning, > >now that osirusoft is officially dead, what should we SA admins do? Set >all scores for OSIRUSOFT related test to 0? Which are all the tests? Is >the following sufficient? > >score RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM 0 >score X_OSIRU_DUL 0 >score X_O

Re: [SAtalk] Scores for OSIRU Tests

2003-08-27 Thread Rainer Sokoll
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 04:26:19PM +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote: > Rainer Sokoll wrote: > > > I think it is better to disable rblcheck for osirusoft completly in > > 20_head_test.cf: > > Okay. What about those X_OSIRU_ tests? Are they related to As far as I understand this, by disabling check_rb

Re: [SAtalk] Scores for OSIRU Tests

2003-08-27 Thread Alexander Skwar
Rainer Sokoll wrote: > I think it is better to disable rblcheck for osirusoft completly in > 20_head_test.cf: Okay. What about those X_OSIRU_ tests? Are they related to osirusoft.com? Seems so. Alexander Skwar -- -> Keine Kopien senden - ich lese die Listen in denen ich schreibe! <- -> Do not

Re: [SAtalk] Scores for OSIRU Tests

2003-08-27 Thread Rainer Sokoll
On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 08:28:56AM +0200, Alexander Skwar wrote: > Good morning, > > now that osirusoft is officially dead, what should we SA admins do? Set > all scores for OSIRUSOFT related test to 0? Which are all the tests? Is > the following sufficient? > > score RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM 0

[SAtalk] Scores for OSIRU Tests

2003-08-27 Thread Alexander Skwar
Good morning, now that osirusoft is officially dead, what should we SA admins do? Set all scores for OSIRUSOFT related test to 0? Which are all the tests? Is the following sufficient? score RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM 0 score X_OSIRU_DUL 0 score X_OSIRU_DUL_FH 0 score X_O

Re: [SAtalk] Scores

2003-08-15 Thread Matt Kettler
At 12:17 PM 8/15/03 -0700, Stephen Boals wrote: Just upgraded to 2.55, and in testing found that I am getting different scores between versions. Has the scoring changed for rules? Can I get some background on why, and thought process? Thanks. New scores were generated in 2.50, and they were

Re: [SAtalk] Scores

2003-08-15 Thread Patrick Morris
Scoring changes between versions because -- well, spam does. New rules or added and old rules are retested before every release. Stephen Boals wrote: Just upgraded to 2.55, and in testing found that I am getting different scores between versions. Has the scoring changed for rules? Can I get

[SAtalk] Scores

2003-08-15 Thread Stephen Boals
Just upgraded to 2.55, and in testing found that I am getting different scores between versions.  Has the scoring changed for rules?  Can I get some background on why, and thought process?  Thanks.

Re: [SAtalk] scores differ in headers and spamassassin -t report?

2003-07-17 Thread Jim Ford
On Thu, Jul 17, 2003 at 12:31:32PM +0200, Tony Earnshaw wrote: > >Hey - that was a good one! I wonder why I've never received a copy - I feel > >left out! Perhaps there's a Nigerian Scam mailing list I ought to subscribe > >to ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). > I take it you're attending our conference? I'v

Re: [SAtalk] scores differ in headers and spamassassin -t report?

2003-07-17 Thread Tony Earnshaw
Jim Ford wrote: One user reported an undected spam to me (quoted below, headers included). Your usual Nigerian scam-style spam. It got 3.8 points, but Hey - that was a good one! I wonder why I've never received a copy - I feel left out! Perhaps there's a Nigerian Scam mailing list I ought t

Re: [SAtalk] scores differ in headers and spamassassin -t report?

2003-07-16 Thread Jim Ford
On Wed, Jul 16, 2003 at 06:01:12PM +0700, Alain Fauconnet wrote: > Hello, > One user reported an undected spam to me (quoted below, headers > included). Your usual Nigerian scam-style spam. It got 3.8 points, but Hey - that was a good one! I wonder why I've never received a copy - I feel l

[SAtalk] scores differ in headers and spamassassin -t report?

2003-07-16 Thread Alain Fauconnet
Hello, Hope I won't get flamed for this, but I haven't found anything in the FAQs. One user reported an undected spam to me (quoted below, headers included). Your usual Nigerian scam-style spam. It got 3.8 points, but according to the rules matching, it should get 5.0 (it does if I run

Re: [SAtalk] SCORES

2002-10-14 Thread Denis Braekhus
Quoting spamassassin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > How is everyone using SA? Do you auto delete spam after some high score? I > would like to find the safest score to delete spam, and keep the other mail > with smaller score. Personalised the score needed for the users, then let all spam through but wit

Re: [SAtalk] SCORES

2002-10-14 Thread Mike Leone
* spamassassin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote this on 10 14, 02 at 12:06: > > How is everyone using SA? Do you auto delete spam after some high score? I > would like to find the safest score to delete spam, and keep the other mail > with smaller score. I never auto-delete anything. :-) Losing real m

RE: [SAtalk] SCORES

2002-10-14 Thread Steve Thomas
| How is everyone using SA? Do you auto delete spam after some high score? I | would like to find the safest score to delete spam, and keep the | other mail with smaller score. I archive everything first, just in case, then /dev/null anything that scores 20+ and put anything from 5-19.x into a sp

Re: [SAtalk] SCORES

2002-10-14 Thread Chris Fortune
m: "spamassassin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 8:50 AM Subject: [SAtalk] SCORES > > How is everyone using SA? Do you auto delete spam after some high score? I > would like to find the safest score to delete spam, and keep the ot

[SAtalk] SCORES

2002-10-14 Thread spamassassin
How is everyone using SA? Do you auto delete spam after some high score? I would like to find the safest score to delete spam, and keep the other mail with smaller score. Thanks --http://www.fastmail.gr --- This sf.net email is sponsored

Re: [SAtalk] Scores on the Doors

2002-04-04 Thread Robert Fleming
--On Thursday, April 4, 2002 2:01 PM -0800 Daniel Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is rumoured to have written: > On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 09:31:50AM -0600, Casimir Couvillion wrote: >> Highest in March was 43.4. Several 41s behind it. > > Sounds like a challenge! Ok, this one is from yesterday: > > X

Re: [SAtalk] Scores on the Doors

2002-04-04 Thread Rich Wellner
Daniel Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 09:31:50AM -0600, Casimir Couvillion wrote: > > Highest in March was 43.4. Several 41s behind it. > > Sounds like a challenge! Ok, this one is from yesterday: I can't beat that, but here's everything I've received in the last

Re: [SAtalk] Scores on the Doors

2002-04-04 Thread Daniel Rogers
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 09:31:50AM -0600, Casimir Couvillion wrote: > Highest in March was 43.4. Several 41s behind it. Sounds like a challenge! Ok, this one is from yesterday: X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=47.8 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,INVALID_DATE_NO_TZ,PLIN

Re: [SAtalk] Scores on the Doors

2002-04-04 Thread Scott Doty
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 11:14:32AM +0100, Tony Evans wrote: > As a totally frivolous query, what's the highest score anyone's seen on > [legitimate] incoming SPAM [using the default SA scores]? > > I've seen scores in the low 30's. 45.1 http://www.sonic.net/scott/wowspam.txt -Scott __

RE: [SAtalk] Scores on the Doors

2002-04-04 Thread Casimir Couvillion
Highest in March was 43.4. Several 41s behind it. I had a 143, but it was from this list, so I think was a false positive . -cpc- -Original Message- From: Tony Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 4:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SAtalk] Scores on the

Re: [SAtalk] Scores on the Doors

2002-04-04 Thread Gregor Lawatscheck
At 12:14 04/04/2002, you wrote: >As a totally frivolous query, what's the highest score anyone's seen on >[legitimate] incoming SPAM [using the default SA scores]? > >I've seen scores in the low 30's. 41.8 is the record here - used to be 38.x something. Heavy use of RBL (I think flagged by five

RE: [SAtalk] Scores on the Doors

2002-04-04 Thread Michael Moncur
It must be partially because I run a bunch of custom rules to single out stock spam, MLM spam, and frequent spammers, but I seem to get higher scores than many people have posted. I get one or two scores over 30 per day. In my archive of the last month of spam (1058 messages total from 3/11/2002

Re: [SAtalk] Scores on the Doors

2002-04-04 Thread Craig Hughes
Top ten (message IDs changed to protect the spamtraps). Note these were when scanning with mass-check, so no network tests. [craig@belphegore masses]$ sort -rn +1 spam.log |head -10 Y 51 /home/craig/spams/spamtrap.mbox:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SUBJ_HAS_SPACES,MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_2,NO_REAL_NAME,EARN_

Re: [SAtalk] Scores on the Doors

2002-04-04 Thread Olivier Nicole
On one month worth of spam, here are the highest hits: 30.4 30.8 30.9 31.2 39.5 55.8 The 39.5 triggered the following tests: SUBJ_ALL_CAPS, NO_REAL_NAME, ADVERT_CODE, SUBJ_HAS_SPACES, TO_MALFORMED, PLING, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, INVALID_DATE_TZ_ABSURD, SMTPD_IN_RCVD, VIAGRA, CLICK_BELOW, CASHCASHCASH

[SAtalk] Scores on the Doors

2002-04-04 Thread Tony Evans
As a totally frivolous query, what's the highest score anyone's seen on [legitimate] incoming SPAM [using the default SA scores]? I've seen scores in the low 30's. -- Tony Evans (ICQ : 170850) GCv312 GCS d s+:++ a C+++ UAL$ P+ L++ E W(++) N+++(N--) w++$ R+ tv-- b++ I don't know what you

Re: [SAtalk] Scores over 5

2002-03-11 Thread Craig Hughes
On 3/11/02 4:53 AM, "Michael Moncur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matt Sergeant wrote: >> I would suggest that we be extremely careful about checks that get given >> a score over 5. Part of the beauty of SpamAssassin (and heuristics in >> general) is that usually a hit just contributes to the ove

RE: [SAtalk] Scores over 5

2002-03-11 Thread Michael Moncur
Matt Sergeant wrote: > I would suggest that we be extremely careful about checks that get given > a score over 5. Part of the beauty of SpamAssassin (and heuristics in > general) is that usually a hit just contributes to the overall score, but > doesn't necessarily tip things over. Having said tha

[SAtalk] Scores over 5

2002-03-11 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Craig Hughes wrote: > Yes, that might be a little high I would suggest that we be extremely careful about checks that get given a score over 5. Part of the beauty of SpamAssassin (and heuristics in general) is that usually a hit just contributes to the overall score, but does